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Brentford to re-open their academy

Callumcafc
Callumcafc Posts: 63,755
edited July 2022 in Other Football and Sports
New Premier League rules coming in have forced their hand.

Every club in the top tier must operate a Cat 1, 2 or 3 academy from 2024-25 onwards.

They will start with a Cat 4 academy this season after closing their Cat 2 academy in 2016.

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  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,217
    They could solve the problem by getting relegated.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,371
    It’ll be interesting to see what they do. In a way running with the bare minimum would be a bigger waste of time than investing in it and moving up a category or two.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,241
    addick1956 said:
    That means they will steal our yoof by offering to pay the family energy  bill by way of an inducement. 
    Actually if they start at tier 4 and move to tier 3, it's the other way around and we'll steal their good youth for next to nothing, as that's how the tiering system works, and why we are pushing so hard for tier 1
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    edited July 2022
    Looking it up, Cat 4 is much like what they are doing anyway, as unlike Cat 1-3, it's for U17 upwards only. Cat 3 will be a massive leap, as they'll have to start from scratch with recruitment and coaches

    https://www.efl.com/-more/efl-youth-development/

    There are 4 categories of Academy. Category 1 to 3 Academies register players from the U9 age group through to professionals whereas the Category 4 model is a late development model operating from the U17 age group upwards. Category 1 is the highest status of Academy.

    https://www.brentfordfc.com/news/2022/july/brentford-to-open-academy/
  • Crusty54
    Crusty54 Posts: 3,227
    I'm fairly sure they ditched their academy as an economy measure when they had to finance their excellent new stadium.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    sam3110 said:
    addick1956 said:
    That means they will steal our yoof by offering to pay the family energy  bill by way of an inducement. 
    Actually if they start at tier 4 and move to tier 3, it's the other way around and we'll steal their good youth for next to nothing, as that's how the tiering system works, and why we are pushing so hard for tier 1
    Those players would still have to be willing to leave a Premier League academy for a League 1 one, not going to happen. Tier 1 is obviously a positive because we get more money for players who depart, but it's not going to be the game changer that people think IMO. Ultimately, are players like Beadle and Palmer going to stay because we are a Cat 1 club?
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,241
    cafcfan1990 said:
    sam3110 said:
    addick1956 said:
    That means they will steal our yoof by offering to pay the family energy  bill by way of an inducement. 
    Actually if they start at tier 4 and move to tier 3, it's the other way around and we'll steal their good youth for next to nothing, as that's how the tiering system works, and why we are pushing so hard for tier 1
    Those players would still have to be willing to leave a Premier League academy for a League 1 one, not going to happen. Tier 1 is obviously a positive because we get more money for players who depart, but it's not going to be the game changer that people think IMO. Ultimately, are players like Beadle and Palmer going to stay because we are a Cat 1 club?
    No, but it means we get more money for them if they decide to move on. Similarly players in a Cat 3 academy, regardless of what tier the parent club are in, aren't going to have the same level of coaching and facilities available to them compared to a Cat 1 academy. That's kind of the point.

    So you say will they be willing to leave a Premier Academy for a League 1 one? If they have any sense they will, because in Academy levels, we'll be the highest level and Brentford's will be the third level.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    sam3110 said:
    cafcfan1990 said:
    sam3110 said:
    addick1956 said:
    That means they will steal our yoof by offering to pay the family energy  bill by way of an inducement. 
    Actually if they start at tier 4 and move to tier 3, it's the other way around and we'll steal their good youth for next to nothing, as that's how the tiering system works, and why we are pushing so hard for tier 1
    Those players would still have to be willing to leave a Premier League academy for a League 1 one, not going to happen. Tier 1 is obviously a positive because we get more money for players who depart, but it's not going to be the game changer that people think IMO. Ultimately, are players like Beadle and Palmer going to stay because we are a Cat 1 club?
    No, but it means we get more money for them if they decide to move on. Similarly players in a Cat 3 academy, regardless of what tier the parent club are in, aren't going to have the same level of coaching and facilities available to them compared to a Cat 1 academy. That's kind of the point.

    So you say will they be willing to leave a Premier Academy for a League 1 one? If they have any sense they will, because in Academy levels, we'll be the highest level and Brentford's will be the third level.
    Financially, we have to spend more money to retain Cat 1 status so I'm not sure it's worth it to be honest. We'll get a bit more if one leaves but we'd need one to leave every season to cover the extra costs. 

    I get your point about Cat 1 having better facilities and coaching, but the Premier League clubs will still have the spending power. Why would a promising 15/16 year old leave Brentford for Charlton when the professional contract on offer shortly after will be much less. It's just not going to happen. 

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