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  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,513
    Any news on Garner?
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Chris Powell is in the running.
  • SamB09
    SamB09 Posts: 901
    Does he know how to do a vlookup?
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,355
    said it many times before on here .. i m o owner's kin who have no real knowledge of professional football should not be part of the managerial set up, it smacks of unnecessary interference and tittle tattling .. that's it unless Martin has talents which I do not know about, does he ?
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,766
    edited May 2022
    Don’t see the PhD and UEFA license requirements for the below recruitment analyst position at Spurs…

    https://www.hub-soccer.com/2020/09/07/recruitment-analyst-tottenham-hotspur/



  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,459
    He has lots of books in his office......or is that wallpaper?
  • Books on wallpaper analysis.
  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,513
    edited May 2022
    Because reading job specs is fun, the Norwich recruitment analyst ad:

    Essential

    • Related sports degree or equivalent in experience.
    • Minimum of three years’ experience working in an elite football environment (performance analysis and/or scouting) or demonstrable portfolio of work within this subject area.
    • Excellent understanding of talent identification processes and demonstrable tactical/technical football knowledge.
    • Experience using industry leading video analysis software.
    • Experience applying data to support the scouting and recruitment process.

    Desirable

    • Related Sports Masters’ degree or equivalent in experience.
    • FA Level 3 talent identification.
    • Experience in using SBG MatchTracker and Focus software.

    You might not need a Phd and badges to be a recruitment analyst, but its desired. In regards to the performance analysis side of things, said expertise and expeirence is pretty much a requirement even more so if your´e the director of overall analysis, and, apparently, commenting on training. 

    Regardless, the point as ever, is that MS isnt particaually close in terms of skills and expierence, much like how everyone hated Ged "fucked up our summer recruitment because hes not qualified for the role" Roddy wasnt, and with the general feeling of our season hinging on recruitment, being a little concerned is fair really. 
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 6,857
    Don’t see the PhD and UEFA license requirements for the below recruitment analyst position at Spurs…

    https://www.hub-soccer.com/2020/09/07/recruitment-analyst-tottenham-hotspur/



    So he falls at the first hurdle then…
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,766
    Don’t see the PhD and UEFA license requirements for the below recruitment analyst position at Spurs…

    https://www.hub-soccer.com/2020/09/07/recruitment-analyst-tottenham-hotspur/



    So he falls at the first hurdle then…
    Heard he’s great on Football Manager so it’s a yes from me.
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  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,527
    He will no doubt take great kudos from having his own personal thread on the much acclaimed CL.. B)
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  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Because reading job specs is fun, the Norwich recruitment analyst ad:

    Essential

    • Related sports degree or equivalent in experience.
    • Minimum of three years’ experience working in an elite football environment (performance analysis and/or scouting) or demonstrable portfolio of work within this subject area.
    • Excellent understanding of talent identification processes and demonstrable tactical/technical football knowledge.
    • Experience using industry leading video analysis software.
    • Experience applying data to support the scouting and recruitment process.

    Desirable

    • Related Sports Masters’ degree or equivalent in experience.
    • FA Level 3 talent identification.
    • Experience in using SBG MatchTracker and Focus software.

    You might not need a Phd and badges to be a recruitment analyst, but its desired. In regards to the performance analysis side of things, said expertise and expeirence is pretty much a requirement even more so if your´e the director of overall analysis, and, apparently, commenting on training. 

    Regardless, the point as ever, is that MS isnt particaually close in terms of skills and expierence, much like how everyone hated Ged "fucked up our summer recruitment because hes not qualified for the role" Roddy wasnt, and with the general feeling of our season hinging on recruitment, being a little concerned is fair really. 
    I can just imagine the Charlton Job spec:

    * Must be related to owner (preferably son)
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    edited May 2022
    "MS attempted to make a change to training".
    What exactly did he attempt to do?
    The above could mean very different things, from something quite minor to something very disturbing?
  • Dave Rudd
    Dave Rudd Posts: 2,865
    It's great to see modern technology playing such an important part in a job like this.

    I've just taken a look at Sportscode and Coach Paint.  In truth, they are video editing software packages ... the kind of thing that you can spend hours playing with, if you are that way inclined.

    Useful, I imagine, in building video presentations where you can run through key points with players and teams.  But this kind of approach only works if you know what you are talking about as a coach. 

    The order is important here ... first you have to be a good coach, and second ... you need competency with the software.

    Familiarity with Sportscode etc doesn't make you a good coach.  It may well indicate that you can edit videos.

    Beware the technology defining the job.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,448
    edited May 2022
    "MS attempted to make a change to training".
    What exactly did he attempt to do?
    The above could mean very different things, to something quite minor to something very disturbing?
    It's been phrased very deliberately I'm sure. 

    Probably something minor that's trying to be twisted into something it's not. 

    It won't have been leaked from MS that's for sure, so will be one side of the story. 
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198
    "MS attempted to make a change to training".
    What exactly did he attempt to do?
    The above could mean very different things, to something quite minor to something very disturbing?
    It's been phrased very deliberately I'm sure. 

    Probably something minor that's trying to be twisted into something it's not. 

    It won't have been leaked from MS that's for sure, so will be one side of the story. 
    If it was something along the lines of "do some crossing practise rather than buggering about playing leap-frog or giving piggy-back rides" that could be seen as a good thing. No?
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  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,108
    I would be careful about what we say about our Director of Analytics. Walls have ears .. I found one in my ice cream the other day
  • ken_shabby
    ken_shabby Posts: 6,256
    Is this where we go to see who the next manager is going to be?
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    _MrDick said:
    I would be careful about what we say about our Director of Analytics. Walls have ears .. I found one in my ice cream the other day
    I though Walls had sausages?  Or sausage dogs? 
  • SomervilleAddick
    SomervilleAddick Posts: 3,575
    cafcfan said:
    "MS attempted to make a change to training".
    What exactly did he attempt to do?
    The above could mean very different things, to something quite minor to something very disturbing?
    It's been phrased very deliberately I'm sure. 

    Probably something minor that's trying to be twisted into something it's not. 

    It won't have been leaked from MS that's for sure, so will be one side of the story. 
    If it was something along the lines of "do some crossing practise rather than buggering about playing leap-frog or giving piggy-back rides" that could be seen as a good thing. No?
    Indeed, specifics have been noticeably absent on what he said. If he asked whether they could incorporate into the training some routines that prevented some of the players blowing out of their arses after sixty minutes, I wouldn’t be at all concerned 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Is this where we go to see who the next manager is going to be?

    No, go straight to the end, turn right and it's your second door on the left. 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,766
    No-one likes a micro manager. 
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,127
    SamB09 said:
    Does he know how to do a vlookup?
    INDEX MATCH instead will change your life. 
  • I hate nepotism. 

    The second you put a son / daughter into your own working environment you create a problem.  Can you trust this guy / girl? No you can't.  Can you have a laugh?  No you can't.  Can you be ironic?  No you can't.  Do you need to mind your Ps and Qs?  Yes you most certainly do (Ask Conor Washington).

    Look, you're a big cheese in the business community, you want an advantage for your kid, that's natural.  Well use your contacts and influence, put them in a mates company and watch them thrive, survive or ... fail

    Just don't do it at the expense of Charlton Athletic.  That ain't on!
  • SamB09
    SamB09 Posts: 901
    SamB09 said:
    Does he know how to do a vlookup?
    INDEX MATCH instead will change your life. 
    Agree, much better for matching multiple columns aswell.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,934
    Can’t stand people that just lean on their parents rather than work for it. The guy has never known what it’s like to go into a competitive interview situation and get a job off his own back.

    Aside from that - this is a good example of being put in a job you are totally unqualified for. He isn’t a football expert. He isn’t even a data expert. 

    Someone said ‘oh well Thomas can trust him’

    I am trustworthy to work with but I wouldn’t recommend sticking me on a bathroom installation cos I have utterly no experience.

    This is right up there with Thomas Driesen in terms of odd decisions from our recent past.