Warburton is an arse. He talks a lot of guff that impresses the media but none of my Glaswegian family were crying into their beer when he got the old heave hoe at Rangers.
I doubt he would want to join a club where he has little say over recruitment, which was why he left Brentford, and I expect he wants to manage in the Champo.
If he does join us, I expect it would be a lot like the Adkins era. Management speak and ineffectual football.
I would rather see us employing a young coach with a clear plan than seeing one of the same old faces getting the job.
Either way, Sandgaard has to get this right. I for one am beginning to think Tommy might just be another Duchatelet with a guitar.
Warburton is an arse. He talks a lot of guff that impresses the media but none of my Glaswegian family were crying into their beer when he got the old heave hoe at Rangers.
I doubt he would want to join a club where he has little say over recruitment, which was why he left Brentford, and I expect he wants to manage in the Champo.
If he does join us, I expect it would be a lot like the Adkins era. Management speak and ineffectual football.
I would rather see us employing a young coach with a clear plan than seeing one of the same old faces getting the job.
Either way, Sandgaard has to get this right. I for one am beginning to think Tommy might just be another Duchatelet with a guitar.
It’s a view but I think if you look beyond your Rangers mates opinions his stats and football speak a bit louder than they do.
Michael Beale is a maybe, but realistically how much is he earning, 20 - 30 k a week? no idea, I can’t believe we can pay him at the moment anything near what he’s on at the moment already, can’t see it happening, even if he does talk a good game.
The fella at MK dons is a possibility if they miss out on promotion, but how much say does he have in things at the moment?
Can’t see Liam Manning coming to us. He’s got a team at the top end of the league playing his way, why he would want to start from scratch with us? He will stay with Mk until a championship team poaches him, which could be this summer anyway as there are already rumours
Was informed that Beale will be a non starter as he was not happy that Thomas said he had contacted him in an interview when Adkins left. I can't recall this can anyone verify please? Hoping this is not the case and Beale is a possibility. Thomas has verified to me that he tried to contact Beale last time.
Again TS can’t contact him directly as he was employed by Rangers so that’s another made up story … he would have to get permission first
Was informed that Beale will be a non starter as he was not happy that Thomas said he had contacted him in an interview when Adkins left. I can't recall this can anyone verify please? Hoping this is not the case and Beale is a possibility. Thomas has verified to me that he tried to contact Beale last time.
Again TS can’t contact him directly as he was employed by Rangers so that’s another made up story … he would have to get permission first
Maybe he didn't get permission but spoke anyway which is why Beale was annoyed when TS mentioned him publicly.
Beale is a former Charlton youth player and has spoken fondly of the club which maybe why he gets talked about so much in these situations.
Not to say that he isn't a very good candidate but that link perhaps means he's mentioned more than other similar coaches.
There doesn't seem to be much leaking to reliable sources like Cawley which suggests, if you're an optimist, that TS is keeping things under wraps or, if you're a golfie, nothing has been done, process hasn't started and we'll get Welling's reserve manager in September.
Maybe he didn't get permission but spoke anyway which is why Beale was annoyed when TS mentioned him publicly.
Beale is a former Charlton youth player and has spoken fondly of the club which maybe why he gets talked about so much in these situations.
Not to say that he isn't a very good candidate but that link perhaps means he's mentioned more than other similar coaches.
There doesn't seem to be much leaking to reliable sources like Cawley which suggests, if you're an optimist, that TS is keeping things under wraps or, if you're a golfie, nothing has been done, process hasn't started and we'll get Welling's reserve manager in September.
There is a lot of leaking to Cawley of who it isn't.....
Was informed that Beale will be a non starter as he was not happy that Thomas said he had contacted him in an interview when Adkins left. I can't recall this can anyone verify please? Hoping this is not the case and Beale is a possibility. Thomas has verified to me that he tried to contact Beale last time.
Have a look online at the interview he gave after there game yesterday and the comments from QPR fans and i didnt read one bad comment they all speak very highly of him his management and style of play and along side that seems like a very likeable man thats in the league above btw
I think a few people need to have a think about where we are as a club and be more realistic Warburton would be a class appointment !
Sounds like Adkins. I’ve read what people have said about Warburton and I can see logic in it but he still feels like yesterdays man to me. A young up coming coach in the style of Manning, Russell Martin, Matt Taylor or a Johnnie Jackson would be my pick.
Have a look online at the interview he gave after there game yesterday and the comments from QPR fans and i didnt read one bad comment they all speak very highly of him his management and style of play and along side that seems like a very likeable man thats in the league above btw
I think a few people need to have a think about where we are as a club and be more realistic Warburton would be a class appointment !
Sounds like Adkins. I’ve read what people have said about Warburton and I can see logic in it but he still feels like yesterdays man to me. A young up coming coach in the style of Manning, Russell Martin, Matt Taylor or a Johnnie Jackson would be my pick.
Him and adkins arent even close mate apart from being likeable he had been out the game a while and last few teams he was at it didnt go or end well
warburton has done very well for 3 years building at QPR from there own fans words bringing together what was a toxic club from top to bottom pretty similar to us atm really and getting them playing good football also on a limited budget he also had decent success at rangers and brentford
Not too say a young manager wouldnt work but the more unknown and unproven managers might work against them with sandgaard and also what we need right now we shall see
A common flaw in recruitment in any industry generally is reacting to the last appointment.
If the last appointment was a success then go for someone just like them.
If the last appointment was a failure go for the opposite of the last person.
So in football, where most hires are due to the last bloke being sacked, that means lurching from last guy was old, get a young guy in, last guy had no club connections, get a club legend in.
Then reverse and repeat.
The clever hire is to ignore age, background or anything not relevant to the job and hire the person best equipped to deliver whatever your aims are:
If that is high press, passing, winning football that involves promoting players from the youth team and be willing to let someone else have the final say on player recruitment then pick the guy who ticks all or at least most of those boxes regardless of his age, Charlton connections, current club or hair colour and hope the package you offer makes him want to join us.
Was informed that Beale will be a non starter as he was not happy that Thomas said he had contacted him in an interview when Adkins left. I can't recall this can anyone verify please? Hoping this is not the case and Beale is a possibility. Thomas has verified to me that he tried to contact Beale last time.
I think what can be gleaned from this thread is whoever is appointed is unlikely to be universally welcomed 😂
Unless we got Klopp or Pep I can't think of anyone one that would be?
Anyone we are realistically going to get will either have a failer on their CV, lack experience or be taking a big step up in terms of size of club and expectations.
Your wrong mate Klopp only drew yesterday and Pep messed up midweek they are obviously a busted flush
To be fair if Tommy promised them champions league in six years that could swing it. 😉
A common flaw in recruitment in any industry generally is reacting to the last appointment.
If the last appointment was a success then go for someone just like them.
If the last appointment was a failure go for the opposite of the last person.
So in football, where most hires are due to the last bloke being sacked, that means lurching from last guy was old, get a young guy in, last guy had no club connections, get a club legend in.
Then reverse and repeat.
The clever hire is to ignore age, background or anything not relevant to the job and hire the person best equipped to deliver whatever your aims are:
If that is high press, passing, winning football that involves promoting players from the youth team and be willing to let someone else have the final say on player recruitment then pick the guy who ticks all or at least most of those boxes regardless of his age, Charlton connections, current club or hair colour and hope the package you offer makes him want to join us.
There is also the idea that young managers are more progressive, flexible and tactically aware. Generally play better football.
I have no idea where that comes from at all. The 2 least tactically flexible managers we have had in the last 20 years were both in their 30s.
A common flaw in recruitment in any industry generally is reacting to the last appointment.
If the last appointment was a success then go for someone just like them.
If the last appointment was a failure go for the opposite of the last person.
So in football, where most hires are due to the last bloke being sacked, that means lurching from last guy was old, get a young guy in, last guy had no club connections, get a club legend in.
Then reverse and repeat.
The clever hire is to ignore age, background or anything not relevant to the job and hire the person best equipped to deliver whatever your aims are:
If that is high press, passing, winning football that involves promoting players from the youth team and be willing to let someone else have the final say on player recruitment then pick the guy who ticks all or at least most of those boxes regardless of his age, Charlton connections, current club or hair colour and hope the package you offer makes him want to join us.
There is also the idea that young managers are more progressive, flexible and tactically aware. Generally play better football.
I have no idea where that comes from at all. The 2 least tactically flexible managers we have had in the last 20 years were both in their 30s.
The question should be "is this person able to be flexible in their formations?" not "how old are they?" because their age is irrelevant to what is needed while their flexibility is crucial.
A common flaw in recruitment in any industry generally is reacting to the last appointment.
If the last appointment was a success then go for someone just like them.
If the last appointment was a failure go for the opposite of the last person.
So in football, where most hires are due to the last bloke being sacked, that means lurching from last guy was old, get a young guy in, last guy had no club connections, get a club legend in.
Then reverse and repeat.
The clever hire is to ignore age, background or anything not relevant to the job and hire the person best equipped to deliver whatever your aims are:
If that is high press, passing, winning football that involves promoting players from the youth team and be willing to let someone else have the final say on player recruitment then pick the guy who ticks all or at least most of those boxes regardless of his age, Charlton connections, current club or hair colour and hope the package you offer makes him want to join us.
There is also the idea that young managers are more progressive, flexible and tactically aware. Generally play better football.
I have no idea where that comes from at all. The 2 least tactically flexible managers we have had in the last 20 years were both in their 30s.
The question should be "is this person able to be flexible in their formations?" not "how old are they?" because their age is irrelevant to what is needed while their flexibility is crucial.
Exactly I would even go the other way and say that a more experienced manager would be able to show a body of work that shows flexibility.
You wouldn't expect say Neil Warnock, to deploy the same formation and tactics today as he did at Bury.
Cannot believe there is people comparing warburton to adkins ! 😂 some people are absolutely clueless
Even worse, those comparing TS to RD. Get a grip.
This. 👆🏻
Someone who cut the heart out of the club, was never here, didn’t care if it went out of business and eventually gave it to crooks to dismantle compared to decent guy who rescued the club from the crooks, wants the best for the club, has got us buying players, trying to get us to Cat 1 academy status but who occasionally says things that people aren’t keen on, half of which is far more of a cultural mistake than anything more and made a duff but well intentioned managerial call in Nigel Adkins.
Michael Beale is a maybe, but realistically how much is he earning, 20 - 30 k a week? no idea, I can’t believe we can pay him at the moment anything near what he’s on at the moment already, can’t see it happening, even if he does talk a good game.
The fella at MK dons is a possibility if they miss out on promotion, but how much say does he have in things at the moment?
I think I can safely say Villa are not paying Beale £10m annually to be one of two assistant coaches. They don’t pay Gerard that much - reported a £4m + bonuses. I’m sure he’s on a good wage, but it won’t be anywhere near that high. It still might be more than we want to pay in L1 though.
Michael Beale is a maybe, but realistically how much is he earning, 20 - 30 k a week? no idea, I can’t believe we can pay him at the moment anything near what he’s on at the moment already, can’t see it happening, even if he does talk a good game.
The fella at MK dons is a possibility if they miss out on promotion, but how much say does he have in things at the moment?
I think I can safely say Villa are not paying Beale £10m annually to be one of two assistant coaches. They don’t pay Gerard that much - reported a £4m + bonuses. I’m sure he’s on a good wage, but it won’t be anywhere near that high. It still might be more than we want to pay in L1 though.
20 - 30k a week is 1 - 1.5 million a year, not 10 million?
Cannot believe there is people comparing warburton to adkins ! 😂 some people are absolutely clueless
Even worse, those comparing TS to RD. Get a grip.
This. 👆🏻
Someone who cut the heart out of the club, was never here, didn’t care if it went out of business and eventually gave it to crooks to dismantle compared to decent guy who rescued the club from the crooks, wants the best for the club, has got us buying players, trying to get us to Cat 1 academy status but who has occasionally says things that people aren’t keen on, half of which is far more than a cultural mistake than anything more and made a duff but well intentioned manager call in Nigel Adkins.
Being better than Duchatelet is not a high bar . I look forward to seeing where we are this time next year - hopefully some of us will be eating humble pie and we will all be celebrating promotion.
Michael Beale is a maybe, but realistically how much is he earning, 20 - 30 k a week? no idea, I can’t believe we can pay him at the moment anything near what he’s on at the moment already, can’t see it happening, even if he does talk a good game.
The fella at MK dons is a possibility if they miss out on promotion, but how much say does he have in things at the moment?
Michael is assistant coach at Villa ! Stevie G thinks the world of him and I'm sure he makes money with his coaching videos, podcasts etc but you are way out with 30k a week,
I thought Thomas Sandgaard was wrong to say the Comments about Beale as they might come back to bite him; they have because why would he consider this Job now after being spoken about as the yard stick to aim above ?
Thomas Sandgaard has the right to say and pick who he wants BUT he isn't making things easy for himself with the Beale comments from last year, the blow this league out the water and this won't be of interest to all on CL but the Ladies/women discussion.
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He talks a lot of guff that impresses the media but none of my Glaswegian family were crying into their beer when he got the old heave hoe at Rangers.
I doubt he would want to join a club where he has little say over recruitment, which was why he left Brentford, and I expect he wants to manage in the Champo.
If he does join us, I expect it would be a lot like the Adkins era.
Management speak and ineffectual football.
I would rather see us employing a young coach with a clear plan than seeing one of the same old faces getting the job.
Either way, Sandgaard has to get this right.
I for one am beginning to think Tommy might just be another Duchatelet with a guitar.
The fella at MK dons is a possibility if they miss out on promotion, but how much say does he have in things at the moment?
Beale is a former Charlton youth player and has spoken fondly of the club which maybe why he gets talked about so much in these situations.
Not to say that he isn't a very good candidate but that link perhaps means he's mentioned more than other similar coaches.
There doesn't seem to be much leaking to reliable sources like Cawley which suggests, if you're an optimist, that TS is keeping things under wraps or, if you're a golfie, nothing has been done, process hasn't started and we'll get Welling's reserve manager in September.
warburton has done very well for 3 years building at QPR from there own fans words bringing together what was a toxic club from top to bottom pretty similar to us atm really and getting them playing good football also on a limited budget
he also had decent success at rangers and brentford
Not too say a young manager wouldnt work but the more unknown and unproven managers might work against them with sandgaard and also what we need right now we shall see
If the last appointment was a success then go for someone just like them.
If the last appointment was a failure go for the opposite of the last person.
So in football, where most hires are due to the last bloke being sacked, that means lurching from last guy was old, get a young guy in, last guy had no club connections, get a club legend in.
Then reverse and repeat.
The clever hire is to ignore age, background or anything not relevant to the job and hire the person best equipped to deliver whatever your aims are:
If that is high press, passing, winning football that involves promoting players from the youth team and be willing to let someone else have the final say on player recruitment then pick the guy who ticks all or at least most of those boxes regardless of his age, Charlton connections, current club or hair colour and hope the package you offer makes him want to join us.
I'd love Warburton, he's my first choice.
I have no idea where that comes from at all. The 2 least tactically flexible managers we have had in the last 20 years were both in their 30s.
You wouldn't expect say Neil Warnock, to deploy the same formation and tactics today as he did at Bury.
Michael is assistant coach at Villa !
Stevie G thinks the world of him and I'm sure he makes money with his coaching videos, podcasts etc but you are way out with 30k a week,
I thought Thomas Sandgaard was wrong to say the Comments about Beale as they might come back to bite him; they have because why would he consider this Job now after being spoken about as the yard stick to aim above ?
Thomas Sandgaard has the right to say and pick who he wants BUT he isn't making things easy for himself with the Beale comments from last year, the blow this league out the water and this won't be of interest to all on CL but the Ladies/women discussion.