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  • So ideally the majority would rather see Warburton or Beale in charge. So is the job role as a manager or as it appears to be a head coach if we say players are having contracts renewed and new players are signed before a new incumbent is announced.

    In my opinion that would rule Warburton out and as Brownie said in todays SLP a young coach like Beale for example who would work with the players at his disposal. 

    If it’s not Beale then he will it in my view a young coach from abroad that we never heard of

  • I really thought sandgard would have the new manager in place by now. It’s not as if he didn’t know that he was going to sack jj some time ago. Being a business man he surely sees what a precious commodity time is
    Perhaps the person he wants is still in a job and has to wait till end of season and there contract running down 
    Wow

    No one else could have the vision to see that as a possibility 

    Thanks Colin
    So let me get this straight we aren't advertising the post at the Job Centre?
  • edited May 2022
    Was at the Valley today.

    No potential managers spotted but someone who has had success with Orient on Football Manager and with Newcastle on the ZX Spectrum has applied in writing.

    I've put £20 on him getting the job.
    I did not expect Russell Slade to be back in the running
    Exciting times. 
  • Chunes said:
    Why would Neil Lennon be a divisive decision?
    He wouldn’t - he’s be a decided division!
  • I think it’s because someone said his a ginger twat 
    That was me however I have many other reasons for not wanting him as manager like a lot of other fans on here.
  • edited May 2022
    Why is everyone so intent on being so depressive?

    Thomas says we're going up, so I believe him.

    When Zidane is our manager next season and we win the league by 30 points, everyone will be happy!
  • I think it’s because someone said his a ginger twat 
    That was me however I have many other reasons for not wanting him as manager like a lot of other ‘ Rangers Supporters’ on here.

  • Shrew said:
    I think it’s because someone said his a ginger twat 
    That was me however I have many other reasons for not wanting him as manager like a lot of other ‘ Rangers Supporters’ on here.

    It can’t have been easy when his team kept giving you a spanking on a regular basis.
    I understand.
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  • shirty5 said:
    So ideally the majority would rather see Warburton or Beale in charge. So is the job role as a manager or as it appears to be a head coach if we say players are having contracts renewed and new players are signed before a new incumbent is announced.

    In my opinion that would rule Warburton out and as Brownie said in todays SLP a young coach like Beale for example who would work with the players at his disposal. 

    If it’s not Beale then he will it in my view a young coach from abroad that we never heard of


    "insert Colorado Rapids coach here"
  • Scoham said:
    Of the two I would rather be watching Charlton play like MK Dons than Wycombe. Bet most people would too. 
    Totally agree. I'd go as far as to say MK Dons were the best team in this league. 
  • sholland said:
    shirty5 said:
    So ideally the majority would rather see Warburton or Beale in charge. So is the job role as a manager or as it appears to be a head coach if we say players are having contracts renewed and new players are signed before a new incumbent is announced.

    In my opinion that would rule Warburton out and as Brownie said in todays SLP a young coach like Beale for example who would work with the players at his disposal. 

    If it’s not Beale then he will it in my view a young coach from abroad that we never heard of


    "insert Colorado Rapids coach here"

    I did ponder initially if that type of move for a coach from MLS could be possible. Would be incredibly incredibly left field. Not saying it couldn't work but it would seriously worry me initially. 
  • Chunes said:
    Why would Neil Lennon be a divisive decision?
    Because he’s crap
    Have you been in a dark room for fifteen years?

    So are we!
  • Chunes said:
    Why would Neil Lennon be a divisive decision?
    Because he’s crap
    Have you been in a dark room for fifteen years?

    So are we!
    Is Lennon going to improve that then?
  • edited May 2022
    I asked a QPR mate what he thought of Warburton.......he sent several texts......made interesting reading...

    "He's good. You'll pass it around from the back and play nice passing football. He improves players and talks eloquently. On the downside we have had several runs of 6/7 losses in a row and the reason he left was because he didn't seem to be able to motivate the players to grind out a result when you need to. His calm nature then gets a little repetitive and his lack of a plan B can frustrate. He has left us in a lot better place than we were. He likes keepers that can pass out from the back."

    "We lost 60+ goals from BOS, Eze, Nakhi Wells and Jordan Hugill and should've got in the playoffs regardless. He's worked miracles really. Our recent form has been catastrophic - far far worse than the bottom club so we almost didn't have a choice. All our players got injured tailend of the season and with AFCON destroyed us. That and we're on our SEVENTH keeper of the season. Unbelievable. The whole thing has been incredibly depressing. At a guess 7 points out of the last 42?"

    "Calendar year of 2021 we were automatic promotion form. His runs are great when you're winning. Definitely a good manager to grab if you can."

    "Last 18 games: W3 D3 L12."

    Are we sure he doesn't already work for us?

    Well, take the highlighted points in para one and he sounds just like good old smiler Nige bless him..😎
  • If it was true that Sandgaard forced JJ to play Burstow, wouldn't that give JJ grounds to challenge the 8th place clause? I can't see that rumour being true.
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  • edited May 2022
    I asked a QPR mate what he thought of Warburton.......he sent several texts......made interesting reading...

    "He's good. You'll pass it around from the back and play nice passing football. He improves players and talks eloquently. On the downside we have had several runs of 6/7 losses in a row and the reason he left was because he didn't seem to be able to motivate the players to grind out a result when you need to. His calm nature then gets a little repetitive and his lack of a plan B can frustrate. He has left us in a lot better place than we were. He likes keepers that can pass out from the back."

    "We lost 60+ goals from BOS, Eze, Nakhi Wells and Jordan Hugill and should've got in the playoffs regardless. He's worked miracles really. Our recent form has been catastrophic - far far worse than the bottom club so we almost didn't have a choice. All our players got injured tailend of the season and with AFCON destroyed us. That and we're on our SEVENTH keeper of the season. Unbelievable. The whole thing has been incredibly depressing. At a guess 7 points out of the last 42?"

    "Calendar year of 2021 we were automatic promotion form. His runs are great when you're winning. Definitely a good manager to grab if you can."

    "Last 18 games: W3 D3 L12."

    Are we sure he doesn't already work for us?
    Does show that maybe Charlton are not unique in having injuries or somehow uniquely lax in managing them.

  • If it was true that Sandgaard forced JJ to play Burstow, wouldn't that give JJ grounds to challenge the 8th place clause? I can't see that rumour being true.
    All these different rumours that people in the end take as facts are tedious. If JJ was being forced to play certain players in games or play formations that he didnt think was right then that adds even more weight to the point that he was out of his depth if any of that was true imo he would have come out at the time with the cryptic type statement that other managers have used like it was a club decision. If it is the case and he kept quiet then that was a big mistake
  • AndyG said:
    If it was true that Sandgaard forced JJ to play Burstow, wouldn't that give JJ grounds to challenge the 8th place clause? I can't see that rumour being true.
    All these different rumours that people in the end take as facts are tedious. If JJ was being forced to play certain players in games or play formations that he didnt think was right then that adds even more weight to the point that he was out of his depth if any of that was true imo he would have come out at the time with the cryptic type statement that other managers have used like it was a club decision. 


    So TS gets rid of him for playing a system that he asked him to play …. Whoever wrote that needs to read it again and have a lay down lol 
  • Anyone watching the Swansea v QPR game.

    Warburton wearing what looks like a Castore top.
    Which channel?
  • Any manager of even the most basic kind can say to somebody (owner) who tells them how they should play, or who they should play, something like ‘yeah, we were going to but the weather conditions/there was an injury in the warm up/late fitness test/early change when seeing the opposition line up and shape, so it didn’t happen this time, maybe next’.
    Or ignore them.
    Karl Robinson could blind them with science in an hour long explanation.
    I reckon ignoring them and doing your own thing with the hand you’re dealt is what I would do.
    I really struggle to understand the current debate about removing the autonomy from the person who prepares the players and picks the team.
    It is a fundamental as far as I can see.
  • I really thought sandgard would have the new manager in place by now. It’s not as if he didn’t know that he was going to sack jj some time ago. Being a business man he surely sees what a precious commodity time is
    Perhaps the person he wants is still in a job and has to wait till end of season and there contract running down 
    Wow

    No one else could have the vision to see that as a possibility 

    Thanks Colin
    Prick
  • Scoham said:
    Of the two I would rather be watching Charlton play like MK Dons than Wycombe. Bet most people would too. 
    Totally agree. I'd go as far as to say MK Dons were the best team in this league. 
    Unless you accept the adage “the league position over a full season doesn’t lie” in which case they were 3rd best.  Most attractive maybe, but not the best……?
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