This decision on a manager should have been made weeks ago, it's almost as if sacking Jackson was done without any succession planning. Jackson for example has been sacked, interviewed, hired and had over 2 weeks at his new club already.
TS is failing to learn from last Summers mistakes.
This decision on a manager should have been made weeks ago, it's almost as if sacking Jackson was done without any succession planning. Jackson for example has been sacked, interviewed, hired and had over 2 weeks at his new club already.
TS is failing to learn from last Summers mistakes.
How could they if the managers they wanted were still involved in their seasons
Interested to see the reaction if Garner is announced on the OS a few days before TS is over. The way TS is being talked about on here and social media is he’s expected to announce the news via a new song on The Valley pitch. There can be no other explanation, after all Adkins was announced in the same way.
If it’s Ben Garner and TS is essentially just grandstanding, then I do actually find that quiet disconcerting.
It’s disconcerting whatever, even if someone is appointed today, we’re miles behind numerous teams in the league, in terms of building a squad.
Are we??
Looking at the rest of the teams going for promotion, they already have most of their squads in place. None of them are going to need to sign around 10 players like we do. Only Derby are in a worse position than us I would guess
Like Wigan last season.
Wigan started doing deals in the 1st 2 weeks of June last season and almost the whole squad in place by mid july. I am not holding my breath.
This decision on a manager should have been made weeks ago, it's almost as if sacking Jackson was done without any succession planning. Jackson for example has been sacked, interviewed, hired and had over 2 weeks at his new club already.
TS is failing to learn from last Summers mistakes.
This decision on a manager should have been made weeks ago, it's almost as if sacking Jackson was done without any succession planning. Jackson for example has been sacked, interviewed, hired and had over 2 weeks at his new club already.
TS is failing to learn from last Summers mistakes.
How could they if the managers they wanted were still involved in their seasons
“Ahead of that, finding the right manager to take our men’s first team forward is our number one priority at this time. We have conducted interviews with a number of candidates and have been really pleased with the quality of interested individuals applying for the role but haven’t made a final decision. It is a thorough process as I want to make sure we find the best person for the football club.”
Anybody else reading this as 'we have interviewed a lot of people but not yet the right person for the job'
“Ahead of that, finding the right manager to take our men’s first team forward is our number one priority at this time. We have conducted interviews with a number of candidates and have been really pleased with the quality of interested individuals applying for the role but haven’t made a final decision. It is a thorough process as I want to make sure we find the best person for the football club.”
Anybody else reading this as 'we have interviewed a lot of people but not yet the right person for the job'
It’s very strange. Especially as Cawley is adamant it’s Garner.
Jackson was negotiating from a strong position as he took over in 22nd place and we were in an upward spiral, reaching 11th during the protracted negotiations. We definitely plateaued ( even dropped) after JJ lost the caretaker title. I would be interested in Steve Peters views on the Psychology of motivation and why it dipped when the job description changed. Strikers injured did have a say in that, full backs not suited to the rigours of game after game of covering so much ground ?
The fact that JJ'S first game as Caretaker was Sunderland away (100% home record) and not Doncaster at home the following week was maybe a clue that Thomas Sandgaard did have other plans for the next manager. A CL member said they knew who it was ? Shame they couldn't give more clues to who that was but I appreciate that sometimes you just can't.
The players knew the details of Jackson's contract. After the period of losses which coincided with us having no senior strikers, they knew he wouldn't be staying. Sandgaard seems to think he is a genius with these clauses. There is a reason no other club does things this way! Wasted last season by not sacking Adkins earlier, wasted the season before by not getting rid of Bowyer earlier when it was clear he didn't want to be there, now wasting next season
Saying you’re pleased with the quality of the candidates is a good thing, if rather inconsequential. I have often been interviewing four candidates for only one job, and you can frequently get to a situation where all the candidates would be good…but you only have one job. This is where feedback is tricky, what do you say to the disappointed? You were great, but there was only one job and we had to choose one person? Sometimes subsequent feedback can spin some minute issue into a justification, which can be handy for the person giving the feedback, but actually damaging for the disappointed candidate.
Jackson was negotiating from a strong position as he took over in 22nd place and we were in an upward spiral, reaching 11th during the protracted negotiations. We definitely plateaued ( even dropped) after JJ lost the caretaker title. I would be interested in Steve Peters views on the Psychology of motivation and why it dipped when the job description changed. Strikers injured did have a say in that, full backs not suited to the rigours of game after game of covering so much ground ?
The fact that JJ'S first game as Caretaker was Sunderland away (100% home record) and not Doncaster at home the following week was maybe a clue that Thomas Sandgaard did have other plans for the next manager. A CL member said they knew who it was ? Shame they couldn't give more clues to who that was but I appreciate that sometimes you just can't.
The players knew the details of Jackson's contract. After the period of losses which coincided with us having no senior strikers, they knew he wouldn't be staying. Sandgaard seems to think he is a genius with these clauses. There is a reason no other club does things this way! Wasted last season by not sacking Adkins earlier, wasted the season before by not getting rid of Bowyer earlier when it was clear he didn't want to be there, now wasting next season
When would you have sacked him? I think the earliest it would have been fair was after the Bolton game. We only played 3 more games and won one of them. A maximum of 6 points wouldn't have changed our season would it?
He wasted last season by ballsing up the summer transfer window, even by his own admission. If he hadn't done that he might not even of had to sack Adkins at all.
Jackson was negotiating from a strong position as he took over in 22nd place and we were in an upward spiral, reaching 11th during the protracted negotiations. We definitely plateaued ( even dropped) after JJ lost the caretaker title. I would be interested in Steve Peters views on the Psychology of motivation and why it dipped when the job description changed. Strikers injured did have a say in that, full backs not suited to the rigours of game after game of covering so much ground ?
The fact that JJ'S first game as Caretaker was Sunderland away (100% home record) and not Doncaster at home the following week was maybe a clue that Thomas Sandgaard did have other plans for the next manager. A CL member said they knew who it was ? Shame they couldn't give more clues to who that was but I appreciate that sometimes you just can't.
The players knew the details of Jackson's contract. After the period of losses which coincided with us having no senior strikers, they knew he wouldn't be staying. Sandgaard seems to think he is a genius with these clauses. There is a reason no other club does things this way! Wasted last season by not sacking Adkins earlier, wasted the season before by not getting rid of Bowyer earlier when it was clear he didn't want to be there, now wasting next season
I can't get my head around this. "The players knew the details of JJ contract!" Wages, and all the minutiae of a Professional contract ?
Unless Jackson left a copy for everyone to see or told everyone he had to finish in the top half of the table or admin leaked it to the players.
Crazy things happen at football clubs but struggling with this news 🤔
We all know there was doubt about JJ future at Cafc after Conor Washington and his agent meet Martin Sandgaard but no way can I believe Conor saw JJ contract and was told the team have to finish in top 12 or even 8.
Why are people labelled bedwetters for being concerned that we have no manager, and about 3 players good enough for a promotion chasing team? It’s exactly 2 months until our first game and we have so much to do. Bizarre.
I make it 5 actually. Transfermarkt includes things like players returning from a loan or players being promoted from the youth team as transfers. For instance Lincoln are listed as making three signings but two are players coming back from loan and one is just a youth team player, so they haven't actually signed anyone
Bolton - Iredale from Cambridge, good signing.
Cambridge - James Holden. A 20 year old goalkeeper from Reading's reserves. Definitely a future prospect not a first teamer.
Fleetwood - Shaun Rooney, free transfer from St. Johnstone
Shrewsbury - Jordan Shipley from Coventry
Wycombe - Jack Young, a 21 year old Newcastle reserve midfielder they had on loan the previous season, where he played a grand total of 20 minutes across 2 appearances.
The Iredale signing is good business but other than that there haven't really been any big moves at all yet. By all accounts the work towards signing players is going on in the background, we might not be as behind as people think, especially if we're hiring based on a style of play
CL is at its best when after the "underwhelmed" comments are out the way, some research takes place and we get an understanding of the man behind the name.
Michael Beale, Ben Garner, Karl Robinson are all ex players that mainly because of injuries or they weren't good enough footballers became coaches in their early 20's.
To have success at football you normally needed to fail somewhere unless you have only worked with elite footballers. Charlton in the 3rd tier don't have elite footballers so you have to work and devise a system that works in League 1. Good luck with that Ben Garner or whoever.
Brighton-Poyet and Bournemouth-Howe were the two teams that were most pleasing on the eye in promotion years from the 3rd tier. If at times we win like Rotherham then lets not complain because some days you win ugly. Better ball retention and passing and crosses from advanced positions would be progress.
Announce ASAP Thomas Sandgaard and then let the youngish coach have the casting vote with incoming transfers on the "committee" which we need to do early so new faces can gel and we hit the ground running and passing in late July when the 22/23 Season starts early.
Interesting point about Poyet.
His Brighton team was the best footballing side I have ever seen at the Valley with the notable exception of Arsenal in the Henri/Premiership glory days. I remember watching one Brighton goal from the lower north, as they exchanged four or five one touch passes inside our penalty box as our defence looked on like a bewildered audience at a top class ballet.
Am I right in thinking that in the early days, Poyet received lots of criticism from fans for his tippy-tappy style that did not render immediate success by an means? And as a top international player and big personality, Poyet had a lot more pedigree, credibilty and clout than TS's new man will enjoy.
I love watching proper football played on the floor and will support Garner and his attempts to achieve it but don't want to see it played in League 2 thank you. If he is still manager by Christmas, or has much say in recruitment other than the words 'thank you' , it will be a near miracle.
Why are people labelled bedwetters for being concerned that we have no manager, and about 3 players good enough for a promotion chasing team? It’s exactly 2 months until our first game and we have so much to do. Bizarre.
100% Arny, I'm proud that I was with Muttley and Lancs lad in calling out Matthew Sandgaard early doors as he reminded me of the fakes and chancers I have met in my social and business life. Fortunately only about 50% of them are on CL (harsh) and if the passe bed wetters tag is coming out again then good luck to the fans who have no problem with waiting until the last few days of the window shutting because you will be in the minority and look like you are clueless.
Get ready to piss in your sleep if there is no announcement in the next seven days.
You want top six, then you have to be quicker and faster than the opposition on and off the pitch.
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TS is failing to learn from last Summers mistakes.
Who cares about QPR FFS, what is happening here is what matters, unless you are really a closet QPR fan..Mmmm..
Anybody else reading this as 'we have interviewed a lot of people but not yet the right person for the job'
Sandgaard seems to think he is a genius with these clauses. There is a reason no other club does things this way!
Wasted last season by not sacking Adkins earlier, wasted the season before by not getting rid of Bowyer earlier when it was clear he didn't want to be there, now wasting next season
I have often been interviewing four candidates for only one job, and you can frequently get to a situation where all the candidates would be good…but you only have one job.
This is where feedback is tricky, what do you say to the disappointed?
You were great, but there was only one job and we had to choose one person?
Sometimes subsequent feedback can spin some minute issue into a justification, which can be handy for the person giving the feedback, but actually damaging for the disappointed candidate.
He wasted last season by ballsing up the summer transfer window, even by his own admission. If he hadn't done that he might not even of had to sack Adkins at all.
Only 9 clubs of the 23 have made signings thus far
I can't get my head around this.
"The players knew the details of JJ contract!"
Wages, and all the minutiae of a Professional contract ?
Unless Jackson left a copy for everyone to see or told everyone he had to finish in the top half of the table or admin leaked it to the players.
Crazy things happen at football clubs but struggling with this news 🤔
We all know there was doubt about JJ future at Cafc after Conor Washington and his agent meet Martin Sandgaard but no way can I believe Conor saw JJ contract and was told the team have to finish in top 12 or even 8.
I don't think were "miles" behind but we're not giving ourselves the most time available either.
I just think it is an odd statement.
If it's done and we're just waiting for TS to fly over (why?) then why say anything? It seems like a statement that didn't need to be made either way.
"We've not appointed anyone yet, as the quality of candidates has been bloody awful and I'm desperately waiting for someone better to apply"
Interesting point about Poyet.
His Brighton team was the best footballing side I have ever seen at the Valley with the notable exception of Arsenal in the Henri/Premiership glory days. I remember watching one Brighton goal from the lower north, as they exchanged four or five one touch passes inside our penalty box as our defence looked on like a bewildered audience at a top class ballet.
Am I right in thinking that in the early days, Poyet received lots of criticism from fans for his tippy-tappy style that did not render immediate success by an means? And as a top international player and big personality, Poyet had a lot more pedigree, credibilty and clout than TS's new man will enjoy.
I love watching proper football played on the floor and will support Garner and his attempts to achieve it but don't want to see it played in League 2 thank you. If he is still manager by Christmas, or has much say in recruitment other than the words 'thank you' , it will be a near miracle.
Not that I am convinced by that tale.
100% Arny,
I'm proud that I was with Muttley and Lancs lad in calling out Matthew Sandgaard early doors as he reminded me of the fakes and chancers I have met in my social and business life. Fortunately only about 50% of them are on CL (harsh) and if the passe bed wetters tag is coming out again then good luck to the fans who have no problem with waiting until the last few days of the window shutting because you will be in the minority and look like you are clueless.
Get ready to piss in your sleep if there is no announcement in the next seven days.
You want top six, then you have to be quicker and faster than the opposition on and off the pitch.