After Wikipedia said Jack Tucker was 2.1m tall I'm wondering if this is kosher.
Louis Reed spent his youth career at Sheffield United and he became their youngest ever first team player at 16 years and 257 days and he received a 3 year contract at the blades. So far so good for the Barnsley born player. He is born in July and is 5ft 8in tall as most of the best people are, unlike me he is 24 years old.
After a loan at Chesterfield and a move to Peterborough he ended up at Swindon where he was POTY last season.
Reed played 39 games out of 46 👍 Two goals scored 👎
Please tell me Reed is a defensive midfielder if this comes to fruition ?
If Louis Reed is a holding midfielder then he could play in a double pivot or holding role with Dobson where they work on creating angles in possession which is excellent when/if we get two attacking full backs with pace. Definitely an advantage away from home where we were more open than my friendly corner shop; other than Sunderland and Rotherham where we kept clean sheets and they are now Championship teams ! Funny old game.
He is a holding midfielder, probably better on the ball than Dobson. Would be a good signing as cover/competition for Dobson
Or in a 4-3-3 with him and Dobson holding with the third a free role.
I really hope that we can broaden our horizons beyond the Swindon Town 21/22 squad.
They definitely have a couple of players worth looking at. Also they had players on loan last season that were recalled in Jan and moved to teams that finished higher than us in league 1 so are definitely at the level we want
After Wikipedia said Jack Tucker was 2.1m tall I'm wondering if this is kosher.
Louis Reed spent his youth career at Sheffield United and he became their youngest ever first team player at 16 years and 257 days and he received a 3 year contract at the blades. So far so good for the Barnsley born player. He is born in July and is 5ft 8in tall as most of the best people are, unlike me he is 24 years old.
After a loan at Chesterfield and a move to Peterborough he ended up at Swindon where he was POTY last season.
Reed played 39 games out of 46 👍 Two goals scored 👎
Please tell me Reed is a defensive midfielder if this comes to fruition ?
If Louis Reed is a holding midfielder then he could play in a double pivot or holding role with Dobson where they work on creating angles in possession which is excellent when/if we get two attacking full backs with pace. Definitely an advantage away from home where we were more open than my friendly corner shop; other than Sunderland and Rotherham where we kept clean sheets and they are now Championship teams ! Funny old game.
He is a holding midfielder, probably better on the ball than Dobson. Would be a good signing as cover/competition for Dobson
Or playing in the team with Reed pushing on whilst Dobson covers?
Cheers Naby for your info, and KA for the above.
Or vice versa as George Dobson's showed when scoring his goal towards the end of season plus his good runs into the box against Morecambe when needs must.
Football is a fluid game and there is no reason why George can't continue to emulate Rice (at our lower level) and be more than a holding midfielder. That isn't that difficult to coach as long as you have fit sharp players who can move. Formations should always change when you on in possession or getting back into a defensive shape. All basis coaching, and as so many of the 25 to 45 year olds have the same coaching badges you better find an edge somewhere.
I really hope that we can broaden our horizons beyond the Swindon Town 21/22 squad.
We have not actually signed (or had serious links with) a single player from that squad. Garner has not said anything about bringing his old players with him IIRC.
It's literally just on here people looking at that squad and playing "what if?"
Cheers fella. I’m confident he’s grafting to get stuff done while he’s here 👍🏼
Be nice to see one or two in this week though, given how long the recruitment team have been hard at it. Might settle a few nerves and signal intent, but we're not alone in finding agents demands hard to accommodate.
I managed to cobble together a team that could be competitive come opening day from the current first team squad if all fit and coached well, but there would be some square pegs playing in round holes again, which I know BG wouldn't want to do, and there would be no experienced cover of proven L1 standard.
It might hold it's own for a while, but with no prospect of promotion without reinforcements and upgrades and it would be decimated by any injuries (again!)
I would certainly like to see three of my starting names replaced by better, match ready ones, but suspect that's not likely to happen in time for the opening fixture.
A bit concerning JUST how thin the squad is now. All the talk about how we've got a core of players to work with, but in reality we're really weak in several areas, especially with NONE of the out of contract players being re-signed, and Gilbey seemingly out of favour.
Squad is paper thin. 2 key players in Inniss and Aneke will unlikely feature in a consistent run of 10 plus games based on prior evidence so wouldn't like to rely on them.
Need to do some proper business next couple of weeks and bed them in with a decent pre season to have a chance of challenging I reckon.
In all honesty,this late in the day, it's going to take some serious wedge to put a squad together that will challenge imo. I know there hasn't been many signings yet but negotiations have probably been going on for many many weeks. Garner has just put his list in.
A week ago we hired Ben Garner. Steve Gallen said we had lots of targets that we were keeping warm and he couldn't wait to start signing players.
TS then warned us that agents want to wait until the last moment before agreeing a deal so their player gets the best deal.
I think we should be taking a stance, offering deals and saying if you don't accept by X date, we will move on to the next player. Setting out our vision in what TS and BG want for the side and going from there.
I believe they are going to do their best, but I don't believe we are set up to succeed. The reason? Well how about the last frickin' 3 seasons .....
So do we wait and try and get the best players we think may be achievable, or do we sign up the lesser players now?
A bit concerning JUST how thin the squad is now. All the talk about how we've got a core of players to work with, but in reality we're really weak in several areas, especially with NONE of the out of contract players being re-signed, and Gilbey seemingly out of favour.
Squad is paper thin. 2 key players in Inniss and Aneke will unlikely feature in a consistent run of 10 plus games based on prior evidence so wouldn't like to rely on them.
Need to do some proper business next couple of weeks and bed them in with a decent pre season to have a chance of challenging I reckon.
In all honesty,this late in the day, it's going to take some serious wedge to put a squad together that will challenge imo. I know there hasn't been many signings yet but negotiations have probably been going on for many many weeks. Garner has just put his list in.
Will Tommy stump up? Doubtful.
He's more likely if Pope gets sold.
And if Pope gets sold, if .........that's when we get the cash. Some signings may have to wait until that time.
A little conundrum for our Thomas:
a) Make the signings asap and hope the Pope money comes in reasonably quickly? b) Or wait until the money actually does arrive - and pay inflated transfer fees?
Every selling club, agent, etc will know once we finally receive our windfall.
I really hope that we can broaden our horizons beyond the Swindon Town 21/22 squad.
No harm in picking players that are recognised as amongst the best in their League.
No harm in picking players that our new manager knows inside out - and are already proven in the gameplan that will be implimented.
To each their own I guess. I’m sure they’ve got some good players, namely Reed and McKirdy - I’d definitely take them.
I’d just be very underwhelmed if we signed a few players from a team that barely reached the League Two play-offs. They may be good but evidently not that good.
I’d like to think there’s better out there and Garner can implement his vision with players better than what he’s had before.
A bit concerning JUST how thin the squad is now. All the talk about how we've got a core of players to work with, but in reality we're really weak in several areas, especially with NONE of the out of contract players being re-signed, and Gilbey seemingly out of favour.
Squad is paper thin. 2 key players in Inniss and Aneke will unlikely feature in a consistent run of 10 plus games based on prior evidence so wouldn't like to rely on them.
Need to do some proper business next couple of weeks and bed them in with a decent pre season to have a chance of challenging I reckon.
In all honesty,this late in the day, it's going to take some serious wedge to put a squad together that will challenge imo. I know there hasn't been many signings yet but negotiations have probably been going on for many many weeks. Garner has just put his list in.
Will Tommy stump up? Doubtful.
He's more likely if Pope gets sold.
And if Pope gets sold, if .........that's when we get the cash. Some signings may have to wait until that time.
A little conundrum for our Thomas:
a) Make the signings asap and hope the Pope money comes in reasonably quickly? b) Or wait until the money actually does arrive - and pay inflated transfer fees?
Every selling club, agent, etc will know once we finally receive our windfall.
Not wait... tomorrow never comes, even though it did yesterday!
Might never happen and, even if it did, Burnley will delay and try to get round paying it any time soon
I really hope that we can broaden our horizons beyond the Swindon Town 21/22 squad.
No harm in picking players that are recognised as amongst the best in their League.
No harm in picking players that our new manager knows inside out - and are already proven in the gameplan that will be implimented.
To each their own I guess. I’m sure they’ve got some good players, namely Reed and McKirdy - I’d definitely take them.
I’d just be very underwhelmed if we signed a few players from a team that barely reached the League Two play-offs. They may be good but evidently not that good.
I’d like to think there’s better out there and Garner can implement his vision with players better than what he’s had before.
Need to judge each player individually. How many predicted Sorba Thomas would have a better season than Kirk?
Swindon were 3 points off going up automatically.
I’m sure we’re looking at plenty of other players who don’t play for them
A bit concerning JUST how thin the squad is now. All the talk about how we've got a core of players to work with, but in reality we're really weak in several areas, especially with NONE of the out of contract players being re-signed, and Gilbey seemingly out of favour.
Squad is paper thin. 2 key players in Inniss and Aneke will unlikely feature in a consistent run of 10 plus games based on prior evidence so wouldn't like to rely on them.
Need to do some proper business next couple of weeks and bed them in with a decent pre season to have a chance of challenging I reckon.
Not going to happen is it. Sandgaard admitted that last year mistakes were made but we have learned from that & are looking to get our business done early. In his latest interview he's saying that realistically most of our business will be done late on in the window so what exactly did he learn ?
I really hope that we can broaden our horizons beyond the Swindon Town 21/22 squad.
No harm in picking players that are recognised as amongst the best in their League.
No harm in picking players that our new manager knows inside out - and are already proven in the gameplan that will be implimented.
To each their own I guess. I’m sure they’ve got some good players, namely Reed and McKirdy - I’d definitely take them.
I’d just be very underwhelmed if we signed a few players from a team that barely reached the League Two play-offs. They may be good but evidently not that good.
I’d like to think there’s better out there and Garner can implement his vision with players better than what he’s had before.
Yeah, the highly rated Swindon LB/WB had a very good season too, with 7 assists credited - so obviously created more chances than that and a big threat getting forward. What's his recovery and defending like?
If Garner is cherry picking the cream of his Swindon players already familiar with his gameplan to play key roles, he would know their character, abilities and have full confidence in them to step up a division. I haven't looked but maybe these players have some League One experience already?
Managers have often taken their tried and trusted key players with them. It wouldn't be a surprise if Garner did the same.
Garner has already managed in this division in recent times. He'll be familiar with the standard required and have knowledge of many current League One players. Anyway no doubt the Black Box Brigade will have done their homework on available players - they'll know more or less who they want from whatever level #Stevegallensshopping list
A bit concerning JUST how thin the squad is now. All the talk about how we've got a core of players to work with, but in reality we're really weak in several areas, especially with NONE of the out of contract players being re-signed, and Gilbey seemingly out of favour.
Squad is paper thin. 2 key players in Inniss and Aneke will unlikely feature in a consistent run of 10 plus games based on prior evidence so wouldn't like to rely on them.
Need to do some proper business next couple of weeks and bed them in with a decent pre season to have a chance of challenging I reckon.
Not going to happen is it. Sandgaard admitted that last year mistakes were made but we have learned from that & are looking to get our business done early. In his latest interview he's saying that realistically most of our business will be done late on in the window so what exactly did he learn ?
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Did you not learn anything from last year ?
Cheers Naby for your info, and KA for the above.
Or vice versa as George Dobson's showed when scoring his goal towards the end of season plus his good runs into the box against Morecambe when needs must.
Football is a fluid game and there is no reason why George can't continue to emulate Rice (at our lower level) and be more than a holding midfielder. That isn't that difficult to coach as long as you have fit sharp players who can move. Formations should always change when you on in possession or getting back into a defensive shape. All basis coaching, and as so many of the 25 to 45 year olds have the same coaching badges you better find an edge somewhere.
It's literally just on here people looking at that squad and playing "what if?"
No harm in picking players that our new manager knows inside out - and are already proven in the gameplan that will be implimented.
Although the way the loan system works out, we're likely to have to wait for most of our loan signings until August/just before the window slams shut.
Same as every club at our level.
I managed to cobble together a team that could be competitive come opening day from the current first team squad if all fit and coached well, but there would be some square pegs playing in round holes again, which I know BG wouldn't want to do, and there would be no experienced cover of proven L1 standard.
It might hold it's own for a while, but with no prospect of promotion without reinforcements and upgrades and it would be decimated by any injuries (again!)
I would certainly like to see three of my starting names replaced by better, match ready ones, but suspect that's not likely to happen in time for the opening fixture.
Let's hope that's Derby and gets postponed!
A little conundrum for our Thomas:
a) Make the signings asap and hope the Pope money comes in reasonably quickly?
b) Or wait until the money actually does arrive - and pay inflated transfer fees?
Every selling club, agent, etc will know once we finally receive our windfall.
Might never happen and, even if it did, Burnley will delay and try to get round paying it any time soon
Swindon were 3 points off going up automatically.
I’m sure we’re looking at plenty of other players who don’t play for them
Yeah, the highly rated Swindon LB/WB had a very good season too, with 7 assists credited - so obviously created more chances than that and a big threat getting forward.
What's his recovery and defending like?
If Garner is cherry picking the cream of his Swindon players already familiar with his gameplan to play key roles, he would know their character, abilities and have full confidence in them to step up a division. I haven't looked but maybe these players have some League One experience already?
Managers have often taken their tried and trusted key players with them. It wouldn't be a surprise if Garner did the same.
Garner has already managed in this division in recent times. He'll be familiar with the standard required and have knowledge of many current League One players. Anyway no doubt the Black Box Brigade will have done their homework on available players - they'll know more or less who they want from whatever level
#Stevegallensshopping list