any possibility that league cup prize money and a home draw v a top 6 prem side (particularly if it gets televised) could potentially change the budget enough to make a difference or just wishful thinking?
I think cup gates are split 50/50 so an away game would be better for that. Away game to one of the big teams and on TV might make a small difference but the games in November so more likely to impact January I’d guess
any possibility that league cup prize money and a home draw v a top 6 prem side (particularly if it gets televised) could potentially change the budget enough to make a difference or just wishful thinking?
I think cup gates are split 50/50 so an away game would be better for that. Away game to one of the big teams and on TV might make a small difference but the games in November so more likely to impact January I’d guess
The game is November yes but the draw is tomorrow - my thought was potentially a plum top 6 draw is going to be an unexpected financial boost either way. I guess it might be longer til we find out any potential TV ties though.
Croydon born, now 34 but was a regular for Forest last season.
Doesn't fit the young player with sell on potential model but if you want some experience he could be the man.
No idea if he can play Garnerball but he can score goals.
Almost all the signings we have made haven't fitted that, not sure why people think it's a criteria tbh.
Lewis Grabban can probably play about 60 minutes max these days as he admitted last season when he said he has no problem coming off the bench.
Jayden Stockley is fitting into the Central striker's role well it's just he's not scoring but his headers have led to goals as the keepers have parried them to CBT and Sakyi I still believe Jayden is better with a player close by and Ben Garner may have to compromise as we have some big players and not to utilise Stockley, Leaburn and Inniss with quality high balls into the box would seem strange. Inniss from set pieces; not playing as a striker !
Croydon born, now 34 but was a regular for Forest last season.
Doesn't fit the young player with sell on potential model but if you want some experience he could be the man.
No idea if he can play Garnerball but he can score goals.
Last played for Forest in the Championship, local lad at the end of his career who would maybe want to move back towards family. Reminds me of someone... No thanks.
Controversial opinion time but I don’t even think the striker we need has to be that good. We just need *someone* who can help us avoid a situation like last season where we went to Wigan with Burstow and Elliot Lee up front, for example.
Obviously the player coming in would need chip in with a few goals when they play over the course of the season but Plan A is obviously to move forward with club captain Stockley as often as possible.
As long as we have a senior body that is available to play when called upon and does a half decent job at dropping into midfield and linking the play, we can still score goals from the likes of CBT, JRS, Kirk, Fraser and Payne.
And then when Stockley is back after a short absence, they’ll drop back to the bench.
For me, it’s more important to get a player that fits the style and can replace Jayden’s link up without disruption more so than finding a poacher who can score a goal but not contribute anything else.
It’s become clear over the last few weeks that that poaching kind of forward won’t fit the Garner style.
I don't think that this is controversial. As you said, stockley is clearly first choice with aneke being the impact sub (obviously fitness permitting). The emergence of leaburn means we could be looking for a 4th choice, a Parker type signing rather than someone being brought in to challenge stockley.
This is the short sighted view that people at the club seem to hold. Signing somebody to challenge Stockley is exactly what we should have been doing. If we were serious about going for promotion then we should have been aiming high & bringing in a decent (at this level) striker. I don't get this view of why would a decent striker come to the club to play second fiddle to stockley. Why did Payne sign for us when he knew that we were overloaded with midfielders ? Probably because he has confidence in his ability & believes he can force himself into the team. It would be the same with a decent striker unless we really are going with the view that Stockley can't ever be dropped because he's the captain.
Controversial opinion time but I don’t even think the striker we need has to be that good. We just need *someone* who can help us avoid a situation like last season where we went to Wigan with Burstow and Elliot Lee up front, for example.
Obviously the player coming in would need chip in with a few goals when they play over the course of the season but Plan A is obviously to move forward with club captain Stockley as often as possible.
As long as we have a senior body that is available to play when called upon and does a half decent job at dropping into midfield and linking the play, we can still score goals from the likes of CBT, JRS, Kirk, Fraser and Payne.
And then when Stockley is back after a short absence, they’ll drop back to the bench.
For me, it’s more important to get a player that fits the style and can replace Jayden’s link up without disruption more so than finding a poacher who can score a goal but not contribute anything else.
It’s become clear over the last few weeks that that poaching kind of forward won’t fit the Garner style.
I don't think that this is controversial. As you said, stockley is clearly first choice with aneke being the impact sub (obviously fitness permitting). The emergence of leaburn means we could be looking for a 4th choice, a Parker type signing rather than someone being brought in to challenge stockley.
This is the short sighted view that people at the club seem to hold. Signing somebody to challenge Stockley is exactly what we should have been doing. If we were serious about going for promotion then we should have been aiming high & bringing in a decent (at this level) striker. I don't get this view of why would a decent striker come to the club to play second fiddle to stockley. Why did Payne sign for us when he knew that we were overloaded with midfielders ? Probably because he has confidence in his ability & believes he can force himself into the team. It would be the same with a decent striker unless we really are going with the view that Stockley can't ever be dropped because he's the captain.
I've said it before. With a choice of 16 players now per game of course any new striker would still play every week.... look at young Leaburn.... so it's total bollocks that a striker wouldn't join to be second fiddle.... there's a great opportunity to oust Stockley as he doesn't fit the way we are playing.
If the hierarchy think we don't need a back up striker then really it just proves their naivety at running a club with aims to get promoted.
Controversial opinion time but I don’t even think the striker we need has to be that good. We just need *someone* who can help us avoid a situation like last season where we went to Wigan with Burstow and Elliot Lee up front, for example.
Obviously the player coming in would need chip in with a few goals when they play over the course of the season but Plan A is obviously to move forward with club captain Stockley as often as possible.
As long as we have a senior body that is available to play when called upon and does a half decent job at dropping into midfield and linking the play, we can still score goals from the likes of CBT, JRS, Kirk, Fraser and Payne.
And then when Stockley is back after a short absence, they’ll drop back to the bench.
For me, it’s more important to get a player that fits the style and can replace Jayden’s link up without disruption more so than finding a poacher who can score a goal but not contribute anything else.
It’s become clear over the last few weeks that that poaching kind of forward won’t fit the Garner style.
I don't think that this is controversial. As you said, stockley is clearly first choice with aneke being the impact sub (obviously fitness permitting). The emergence of leaburn means we could be looking for a 4th choice, a Parker type signing rather than someone being brought in to challenge stockley.
This is the short sighted view that people at the club seem to hold. Signing somebody to challenge Stockley is exactly what we should have been doing. If we were serious about going for promotion then we should have been aiming high & bringing in a decent (at this level) striker. I don't get this view of why would a decent striker come to the club to play second fiddle to stockley. Why did Payne sign for us when he knew that we were overloaded with midfielders ? Probably because he has confidence in his ability & believes he can force himself into the team. It would be the same with a decent striker unless we really are going with the view that Stockley can't ever be dropped because he's the captain.
I've said it before. With a choice of 16 players now per game of course any new striker would still play every week.... look at young Leaburn.... so it's total bollocks that a striker wouldn't join to be second fiddle.... there's a great opportunity to oust Stockley as he doesn't fit the way we are playing.
If the hierarchy think we don't need a back up striker then really it just proves their naivety at running a club with aims to get promoted.
Controversial opinion time but I don’t even think the striker we need has to be that good. We just need *someone* who can help us avoid a situation like last season where we went to Wigan with Burstow and Elliot Lee up front, for example.
Obviously the player coming in would need chip in with a few goals when they play over the course of the season but Plan A is obviously to move forward with club captain Stockley as often as possible.
As long as we have a senior body that is available to play when called upon and does a half decent job at dropping into midfield and linking the play, we can still score goals from the likes of CBT, JRS, Kirk, Fraser and Payne.
And then when Stockley is back after a short absence, they’ll drop back to the bench.
For me, it’s more important to get a player that fits the style and can replace Jayden’s link up without disruption more so than finding a poacher who can score a goal but not contribute anything else.
It’s become clear over the last few weeks that that poaching kind of forward won’t fit the Garner style.
I don't think that this is controversial. As you said, stockley is clearly first choice with aneke being the impact sub (obviously fitness permitting). The emergence of leaburn means we could be looking for a 4th choice, a Parker type signing rather than someone being brought in to challenge stockley.
This is the short sighted view that people at the club seem to hold. Signing somebody to challenge Stockley is exactly what we should have been doing. If we were serious about going for promotion then we should have been aiming high & bringing in a decent (at this level) striker. I don't get this view of why would a decent striker come to the club to play second fiddle to stockley. Why did Payne sign for us when he knew that we were overloaded with midfielders ? Probably because he has confidence in his ability & believes he can force himself into the team. It would be the same with a decent striker unless we really are going with the view that Stockley can't ever be dropped because he's the captain.
I've said it before. With a choice of 16 players now per game of course any new striker would still play every week.... look at young Leaburn.... so it's total bollocks that a striker wouldn't join to be second fiddle.... there's a great opportunity to oust Stockley as he doesn't fit the way we are playing.
If the hierarchy think we don't need a back up striker then really it just proves their naivety at running a club with aims to get promoted.
I know it's total bollocks & you know it's total bollocks but there's been plenty of posts with alternative views.
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Croydon born, now 34 but was a regular for Forest last season.
Doesn't fit the young player with sell on potential model but if you want some experience he could be the man.
No idea if he can play Garnerball but he can score goals.
Thank goodness
Garner will know him from Palace although I see West Brom are strongly linked with him.
A *blatant attempt for LOL's and Leuth cleans up 🤦🏻♂️
* Edited: Blatant not balanced !
Lewis Grabban can probably play about 60 minutes max these days as he admitted last season when he said he has no problem coming off the bench.
Jayden Stockley is fitting into the Central striker's role well it's just he's not scoring but his headers have led to goals as the keepers have parried them to CBT and Sakyi I still believe Jayden is better with a player close by and Ben Garner may have to compromise as we have some big players and not to utilise Stockley, Leaburn and Inniss with quality high balls into the box would seem strange.
Inniss from set pieces; not playing as a striker !
Letting Gilbey go is a mistake.
I'll take the hit if I prove to be wrong.
He hasn't done it for us, but we are letting a good player go. Better than Morgan, better than Kirk, better than McGrandles, better than Jaiyesimi.
Mistake.