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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)

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  • I just don’t see us signing Simpson. It would effectively mean Aneke doesn’t get in the squad when he’s fit and that would mean accepting it was a terrible idea to sign him (which it clearly was)
  • Smithy said:
    I just don’t see us signing Simpson. It would effectively mean Aneke doesn’t get in the squad when he’s fit and that would mean accepting it was a terrible idea to sign him (which it clearly was)
    There is your answer. Even when he is fit again, it’s just a matter of time before he breaks down. 
  • Smithy said:
    I just don’t see us signing Simpson. It would effectively mean Aneke doesn’t get in the squad when he’s fit and that would mean accepting it was a terrible idea to sign him (which it clearly was)
    Surely that's better than NOT accepting it and just putting metaphorical fingers in ears about the whole thing? Aneke will be situationally useful but pragmatically, you just can't count on him definitely bring available so an alternative (such as Simpson) is not only sensible but near enough essential.
  • edited August 2022
    Barton in the press slagging off that Trevor Clarke lad again 😬

    https://extra.ie/2022/08/09/sport/soccernews/joey-barton-trevor-clarke
  • I've had to skip 6 pages, any genuine rumours at the moment?
  • I've had to skip 6 pages, any genuine rumours at the moment?
    Wont be surprised if any other signings come out of the blue

    Realistically, its only Payne | Rak-Sakyi out of the seven incomings that we ever knew about before they happened.
  • edited August 2022
    Chunes said:
    Tyreece Simpson would be the icing on the cake and I think he'd end up being our first choice striker. He's strong, quick, he can hold it up and take players on and he can lay chances on for others as well as finish. Good all-round, mobile player which is what we need up top. 
    Can’t see us having Stockley, Simpson, Aneke, and Leaburn fighting for one spot.
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  • I've had to skip 6 pages, any genuine rumours at the moment?
    Yes, there’s rumours that this thread talks a load of ol’ bollox!
  • thenewbie said:
    Smithy said:
    I just don’t see us signing Simpson. It would effectively mean Aneke doesn’t get in the squad when he’s fit and that would mean accepting it was a terrible idea to sign him (which it clearly was)
    Surely that's better than NOT accepting it and just putting metaphorical fingers in ears about the whole thing? Aneke will be situationally useful but pragmatically, you just can't count on him definitely bring available so an alternative (such as Simpson) is not only sensible but near enough essential.
    Of course it is. But will it happen? 
  • edited August 2022
    sam3110 said:
    Chunes said:
    Tyreece Simpson would be the icing on the cake and I think he'd end up being our first choice striker. He's strong, quick, he can hold it up and take players on and he can lay chances on for others as well as finish. Good all-round, mobile player which is what we need up top. 
    Can’t see us having Stockley, Simpson, Aneke, and Leaburn fighting for one spot.
    Aneke will be permacrocked and Leaburn will be used wide as much as through the middle
    Which is why it was naive to resign Aneke. I just can’t see us paying Stockley, Simpson and Aneke when only one will play at a time. 

    I think we’re done for strikers.
  • Quote from a Swindon site 

    Maybe not with the norm but I am not over excited by the #STFC Tyreece Simpson rumours, good player but the fact he hasn't played since January: feels like we would be taking a huge risk paying a lot of money for a player who will not be fit for a while.
  • I’m sure there will be people that disagree with me but if the rest of our window went like this, I can not see it being anything other than a FANTASTIC window;

    INS
    - Tyreece SIMPSON (Permanent) from IPSWICH
    - Conor COVENTRY (SLL) from WEST HAM
    - Covering LB (SLL) 
    - Covering CB (SLL)

    OUT
    - HENRY (LOAN)
    - 1 of GILBEY/JFC (LOANED out till JAN…Reassess CM options in JAN for 2nd half of the season)

    Me personally and this is only my opinion but I would loan out JFC and keep GILBEY.

    1) I feel GILBEY is more suited to Garner’s system

    2) JFC’s Knee issues causes me concern, that’s X2 knee injuries, some players are never the same after 1 Knee injury let alone 2, so loaning JFC out give us the protection of keeping our squad strong and then the option to reassess JFC for 2nd half of the season and whether or not his knees hold up and he is the same player, we’ve always had.


  • I’m worried about Stockley’s back problem, which can’t help with his mobility (not that mobility is really his bag). Chuks is best deployed from the bench and we don’t want to stunt Miles Leaburn’s development by overplaying him. 

    Given the doubts about the fitness of our two main strikers, I really do think we need another in before the window closes. It’s a long, tough season and we can’t afford to be caught short handed like last season.
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  • edited August 2022
    I’m sure there will be people that disagree with me but if the rest of our window went like this, I can not see it being anything other than a FANTASTIC window;

    INS
    - Tyreece SIMPSON (Permanent) from IPSWICH
    - Conor COVENTRY (SLL) from WEST HAM
    - Covering LB (SLL) 
    - Covering CB (SLL)

    OUT
    - HENRY (LOAN)
    - 1 of GILBEY/JFC (LOANED out till JAN…Reassess CM options in JAN for 2nd half of the season)

    Me personally and this is only my opinion but I would loan out JFC and keep GILBEY.

    1) I feel GILBEY is more suited to Garner’s system

    2) JFC’s Knee issues causes me concern, that’s X2 knee injuries, some players are never the same after 1 Knee injury let alone 2, so loaning JFC out give us the protection of keeping our squad strong and then the option to reassess JFC for 2nd half of the season and whether or not his knees hold up and he is the same player, we’ve always had.


    That is unlikely to happen.

    I see us bringing in two more loans at absolute most with one or two leaving.

    I don't think we will sign any fee agents, not this late in the window especially as its not financially viable in terms of wages and getting them up to speed. 
  • Aneke can also play behind the striker and will be different to any other players who play in a similar position.

    Do we wish he could play more? Obviously, he is a good player regardless of fitness issues. 

    He certainly adds quality to the team. 
    I think he could also play wide in this system.

    Personally I don't think we will get another striker before January.
  • I've had to skip 6 pages, any genuine rumours at the moment?
    Yes, there’s rumours that this thread talks a load of ol’ bollox!
    You must be ITK.
  • Smithy said:
    thenewbie said:
    Smithy said:
    I just don’t see us signing Simpson. It would effectively mean Aneke doesn’t get in the squad when he’s fit and that would mean accepting it was a terrible idea to sign him (which it clearly was)
    Surely that's better than NOT accepting it and just putting metaphorical fingers in ears about the whole thing? Aneke will be situationally useful but pragmatically, you just can't count on him definitely bring available so an alternative (such as Simpson) is not only sensible but near enough essential.
    Of course it is. But will it happen? 
    I think it might. There does seem to have been some lessons learned this season, the way we seem to have been targeting players specifically to fit the manager's favoured system for example and for the first time in a while there is actual depth in (parts of) the squad.

    So I wouldn't rule out another striker entirely though I won't pretend to have any clue if that's likely to be Simpson or another.
  • Simpson isn’t anywhere near the finished article. I suspect Ipswich want way to much money for a club like Charlton to purchase potential. 
  • RC_CAFC said:
    Smithy said:
    I just don’t see us signing Simpson. It would effectively mean Aneke doesn’t get in the squad when he’s fit and that would mean accepting it was a terrible idea to sign him (which it clearly was)
    Don’t see it like that. If fit, there is no better substitute than Aneke in this league. He is also someone you can bring on to support another striker.

    He just bullies tired defences. Signing another striker does not make him redundant.
    I am a big fan of him as a player and there's no doubt he can have a huge impact when he's fit. My point is he is probably a high earner and we paid a fee for him, so with our current forward options I don't think we'll get anyone else in. I'd love to be wrong though.
  • Smithy said:
    RC_CAFC said:
    Smithy said:
    I just don’t see us signing Simpson. It would effectively mean Aneke doesn’t get in the squad when he’s fit and that would mean accepting it was a terrible idea to sign him (which it clearly was)
    Don’t see it like that. If fit, there is no better substitute than Aneke in this league. He is also someone you can bring on to support another striker.

    He just bullies tired defences. Signing another striker does not make him redundant.
    I am a big fan of him as a player and there's no doubt he can have a huge impact when he's fit. My point is he is probably a high earner and we paid a fee for him, so with our current forward options I don't think we'll get anyone else in. I'd love to be wrong though.
    His 3.5 year contract might suggest he took a lower wage in order to have the security of a long contract.
  • Scoham said:
    Scoham said:
    Gallen says one or two more could come in and one or two could go. I hope it’s a striker and a centre back (ideally left sided) we’re after. I have more confidence in Clayden stepping up than Ness, it’s easier for a young full back to come in and I don’t like the idea of Inniss being one of only three senior CBs.
    Completely agree about Inniss being one of three, huge risk. Feel LB could still be strengthened though, whilst you’re right it is easier for a young LB to come in, Clayden isn’t a LB. 
    Have commented on this before but maybe he is and he’s finally found his best position? He has the pace we want in that position and isn’t good enough to challenge for a place in the front three.
    Fair and it’s possible. Although I think it’s more likely he’s being played there out of necessity. Not a position I’d necessarily panic and rule the season over but ideally I’d bring another in. 
    We have the front wide players sorted (it seems) midfield seems done & we still need a decent nippy striker who fits into our "new" formation. It would be a nonsense if we were just going to make do with square pegs in round holes at the back &/or untested youngsters for cover at CB. Hopefully we're still working on this.
  • Chunes said:
    Tyreece Simpson would be the icing on the cake and I think he'd end up being our first choice striker. He's strong, quick, he can hold it up and take players on and he can lay chances on for others as well as finish. Good all-round, mobile player which is what we need up top. 
    that sounds like exactly the sort of player we need if playing as a lone striker 
  • Chunes said:
    Tyreece Simpson would be the icing on the cake and I think he'd end up being our first choice striker. He's strong, quick, he can hold it up and take players on and he can lay chances on for others as well as finish. Good all-round, mobile player which is what we need up top. 
    Can’t see us having Stockley, Simpson, Aneke, and Leaburn fighting for one spot.
    Stockley is probably the only one who can only play in the centre forward position though  
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