Egbo - Inniss - O'Connell - Sessegnon
McGrandles - Dobson - Fraser
Wilkes - Stockley - CBT
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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)
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Dazzler21 said:Rumours CBT has been enquired about.
Sure there was a poster who said on here pretty much right after the season ended that a champ club is interested.
And the cap is 21 this season, down to 20 the following season.2 -
I’ve included Morgan and Davison but not Clayden, assume he will go out on loan. 19 with him included - are we sure his birthday makes him included?Scoham said:
Is that including Morgan, Davison and Clayden? They’re all too old to count as u21s.Covered_End_Lad said:
Think this cap this year is 22 not including keepers or U21s. I make us on 18 currently - so 4 left.swordfish said:Where do we currently stand in terms of the squad size limit? How many more in before we have to move others on?0 -
Well whoever the Champ club is, based on here they must be a shit club trying to sign a player from the league below, and given the transfer hasn't happened yet they must have a terrible transfer policy.CL_Phantom said:Dazzler21 said:Rumours CBT has been enquired about.
Sure there was a poster who said on here pretty much right after the season ended that a champ club is interested.22 -
I really don’t get all this “we’re leaving it too late” nonsense. Where we can do business we have but for reasons stated in that article it’s not always possible to get things done solely to the beat of your drum. There are other drums and many variables. Is it ideal ? No but it’s a reality Charlton and other clubs have to deal with and so do we.8
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People just want to be furious, the same people who are claiming we've done bad business because we haven't paid a transfer fee.25
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after that article I now fully expect a couple of under the radar signings this week given that most so far have been surprises3
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The moaners or agenda pushers will be all over this saying TS is skint blah blah blah when if you read the interview what he is saying makes total sense. The bloke doesnt want to be ripped off and nor would most of us if it was our money20
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Why would be not be feeling the pinch after the last 2 years?Cafc43v3r said:
TS is skintAndyG said:The moaners or agenda pushers will be all over this saying TS is skint blah blah blah when if you read the interview what he is saying makes total sense. The bloke doesnt want to be ripped off and nor would most of us if it was our money
He’ll have looked at the Huddersfield model of frees and loans and realised it can work . I don’t think it will , but it can .1 -
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Sorba can't have been any good anyway, he was signed from a lower league. The best players are only signed from abovegolfaddick said:
The longer we delay into the start of the season the more we are behind the 8-ball. I would have thought we would have learnt THAT lesson from last season.The Prince-e-Paul said:It's all about brinkmanship. Selling clubs and agents know that the later they hold out the more money they all get as the panic sets in for buying clubs. At our level of buying a £3-500k sale can bankroll the clubs for a bit. Also the player might get a longer more lucrative contract.
I still think TS had money to put in, but doesn't want another dub or sicknote employee.
Now I know it's not my money but spending an extra couple of hundred thousand now rather than waiting until August 31st might be the difference between success & failure......and staying in this division another season will cost TS a whole damn more than £200k.
Remember Sorba Thomas anyone ?
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Think the biggest problem is there aren't any better strikers available. Stockton may be a 1 season wonder.addick1956 said:It looks like a good window so far but, if you want the better strikers you need to be quick. They are not on the shelf long. We have 3 plus Davison. My guess is Garner sees him as a good bet or a trading block for an upgrade. I think we do need a CB a goalscorer and A LWB type.
Anyway the wide forward is the position we really need. Whether McKirdy is one of the better wide forwards, I don't know either.0 -
A colleague is close to Chelsea rumours and he has said we have made enquiries to the availability of a Harvey Vale on a season loan.15
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I prefer his mate Gardens to be honestSwingForward said:A colleague is close to Chelsea rumours and he has said we have made enquiries to the availability of a Harvey Vale on a season loan.
Chelsea Academy player of the year, the last one of them we had was quite good.
A midfielder 🤔0 -
Controversial opinion but maybe some of the squad that were so poor last season will perform better under a manager with a different game plan and playing style. Barring Washington and possibly Purrington I don't see many bemoaning the players that left.
I still believe that we had a better squad of players than many of the teams that completely outplayed us last season. They just underperformed woefully under managers who weren't up to it tactically.
Time will tell but so many stating that we won't trouble the playoffs or top half just because we still have a lot of the players from last seasons squad is very short sighted IMO.22 -
as decent as the window has been so far….we need another striker. No doubt in my mind we need someone who can sniff out chances and poach.14
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He won the euros with England u19sSwingForward said:A colleague is close to Chelsea rumours and he has said we have made enquiries to the availability of a Harvey Vale on a season loan.0 -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_Vale
"Initially a left-back, Vale played a number of positions at youth level, including covering for an injured goalkeeper for Fulham, before settling as a midfielder."
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In the main unless you are in the PL or doing ok in the championship, out of contract players are going to be most of the deals. I don’t understand why people think the players out of contract are sub standard to paying a fee. Players are out of contract for lots of reasons and most not because their clubs thought them poor. Most will be by design of the player and agent. Some because clubs choose not to offer a new deal, which doesn’t mean they are poor players but might be to clear wages off the books and free squad places. Players and agents are very much in the driving seat these days. Playing a game of brinkmanship, a player with a couple of offers on the table might secure a last minute increase as an enticement. Why wouldn’t they.1
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Very highly regarded in the England setup. Think there was just something on him in The Athletic.Cafc43v3r said:
I prefer his mate Gardens to be honestSwingForward said:A colleague is close to Chelsea rumours and he has said we have made enquiries to the availability of a Harvey Vale on a season loan.
Chelsea Academy player of the year, the last one of them we had was quite good.
A midfielder 🤔
He's an attacking player. Seems to be able to play anywhere in the attacking three in a 4-2-3-1. Five goals in 22 appearances for Chelsea's U23s last year as an 18 year old.
I'd definitely have him. He'd probably be quite raw but also have potential and pedigree you wouldn't get with most L1 signings.
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I was being sarcastic. Of course there are good players in the lower leagues. But when we sign them we're shopping in Poundland.addick1956 said:
Sorry, Sorba'saddick1956 said:
Husband record in the Championship is fine. In a higher league than ours.Chunes said:
Sorba can't have been any good anyway, he was signed from a lower league. The best players are only signed from abovegolfaddick said:
The longer we delay into the start of the season the more we are behind the 8-ball. I would have thought we would have learnt THAT lesson from last season.The Prince-e-Paul said:It's all about brinkmanship. Selling clubs and agents know that the later they hold out the more money they all get as the panic sets in for buying clubs. At our level of buying a £3-500k sale can bankroll the clubs for a bit. Also the player might get a longer more lucrative contract.
I still think TS had money to put in, but doesn't want another dub or sicknote employee.
Now I know it's not my money but spending an extra couple of hundred thousand now rather than waiting until August 31st might be the difference between success & failure......and staying in this division another season will cost TS a whole damn more than £200k.
Remember Sorba Thomas anyone ?0 -
If we are going to play 433 it's asking a lot for someone who can play on their own and be a poacher.Swisdom said:as decent as the window has been so far….we need another striker. No doubt in my mind we need someone who can sniff out chances and poach.
What we really need is someone like Wilkes who can play wide and score 20 goals. That's the player that will make or break us IMO.
An alternative/upgrade/replacement for Stockley would be icing on the cake.8 -
Agreed. IF we are playing 433 as our main system, then that's the main question mark over our attacking 3. Stockley and Aneke are the central options, but we need the 2 players either side of them to be goal threats, not just wingers who stick the ball in. You'd hope the attacking full backs would provide the width.Cafc43v3r said:
If we are going to play 433 it's asking a lot for someone who can play on their own and be a poacher.Swisdom said:as decent as the window has been so far….we need another striker. No doubt in my mind we need someone who can sniff out chances and poach.
What we really need is someone like Wilkes who can play wide and score 20 goals. That's the player that will make or break us IMO.
An alternative/upgrade/replacement for Stockley would be icing on the cake.
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I still think our XI and squad is better than this time last year, and last year was better than the year before that. If we include Leaburn and Clayden we have 23 players to choose from come July 30th.0
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Harvey Vale, excellent cultured young player. Believe it was Mount who was recently asked about who is the next academy player to come through and he is excited about, the answer was Vale.
Vale and Hall are two who I would love for us to get in on loan from Chelsea.
I also agree about Wilkes, that is certainly the type of player we are missing alongside another striker to compete with Stockley and Aneke. Surprised his move to Wednesday fell through. Although, I also cannot see him leaving Yorkshire.
Wilkes Stockley CBT as a front 3 would be very dangerous. Then Aneke to power through for the last 20-30 minutes.
I'll do the typical supporter thing now and say an outfield team of:
Would be strong for League One. That is without Forster-Caskey as well, who I think is going to have an excellent season.8 -
Unfortunately, we have to replace wilkes with DJ. That reduces the goals scored column by 15! I get your point though, we need a Karlan grant type player who is quick and can play anywhere along the front line.Sage said:Harvey Vale, excellent cultured young player. Believe it was Mount who was recently asked about who is the next academy player to come through and he is excited about, the answer was Vale.
Vale and Hall are two who I would love for us to get in on loan from Chelsea.
I also agree about Wilkes, that is certainly the type of player we are missing alongside another striker to compete with Stockley and Aneke. Surprised his move to Wednesday fell through. Although, I also cannot see him leaving Yorkshire.
Wilkes Stockley CBT as a front 3 would be very dangerous. Then Aneke to power through for the last 20-30 minutes.
I'll do the typical supporter thing now and say an outfield team of:Egbo - Inniss - O'Connell - Sessegnon
McGrandles - Dobson - Fraser
Wilkes - Stockley - CBT
Would be strong for League One. That is without Forster-Caskey as well, who I think is going to have an excellent season.0 -
I know there’s a lot of anti TS sentiment ‘elsewhere’, and a little on CL, but so far this close season I’ve been impressed, at least with the transfer dealings and the managerial and coaching appointments. Something had to change with the latter, or else a long term future in L1 looked likely.He’s clearly learning from his mistakes, which augers well for the future, although the handling of backroom staff issues has been poor, on the face of it. I hope he’ll learn to that to hang on to the staff that you need to run a football club you need to pay reasonable wages.PS Still think we need two or three good signings to reach Top six potential.5
