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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)

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  • Fraser last full season in league one, 14 goals.
    Kirk last full season in league one, 6 goals.
    JFC last full season in league one, 6 goals.
    McGrandles last full season in league one, 2 goals.

    All four now playing in a better side than their last full season, I’m not saying they will score loads of goals between them, but there is reason for optimism.  We need another winger who can contribute too.  
    Excellent point. Last season yes we can point to lacking anyone getting close to Stockley and Washington for goals and say we need a midfielder who can score double figures but actually the bigger issue was lack of goals throughout the team, Purrington with 3 was the highest scoring player not a striker.
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    Fraser last full season in league one, 14 goals.
    Kirk last full season in league one, 6 goals.
    JFC last full season in league one, 6 goals.
    McGrandles last full season in league one, 2 goals.

    All four now playing in a better side than their last full season, I’m not saying they will score loads of goals between them, but there is reason for optimism.  We need another winger who can contribute too.  
    I personally think you ignored the most important one which is CBT. Is he consistent enough to score and create to be in a promotion challenging side.
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    The biggest positive difference between this season and last few, is that with a month to go, we have a team who can go into the first game of the season already with expectations of winning it, more than just hoping to.

    There definitely has to be more movement to have a full squad ready for a winning season, but that is a big plus compared to previous years.
  • Dave Rudd said:
    Still not enough goals. Until that’s addressed we won’t get out of this division.
    Correct.

    Even allowing for the 15 'wishful thinking' goals that Aneke will get from the treatment table bench.

    Davison is the interesting one.  He's clearly not good enough, and yet Garner fancied him enough last season.

    Is that a reflection on Garner's assessment of a player or a feature of the budget he was working with?

    I don't know who's out there that we might be able to attract, but a poacher is essential if we are to be serious contenders this season.

    Can Bairstow kick a ball?


    Prefer he stuck to the cricket...especially in his current form! 
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    Fraser last full season in league one, 14 goals.
    Kirk last full season in league one, 6 goals.
    JFC last full season in league one, 6 goals.
    McGrandles last full season in league one, 2 goals.

    All four now playing in a better side than their last full season, I’m not saying they will score loads of goals between them, but there is reason for optimism.  We need another winger who can contribute too.  
    I personally think you ignored the most important one which is CBT. Is he consistent enough to score and create to be in a promotion challenging side.
    Hope you’re right, but it’s hard to make a point on him based on previous seasons, I’m definitely a fan of his though.  
  • I'm definitely more happy with this summer's business so far than last summer's. I feel like I've got a starting 11 that I'd be comfortable to see opening day without too many qualms about players out of position or anything. 

    It's now about having the depth that if we lost say Stockley or Dobbo to an injury in preseason that it wouldn't be complete panic stations about how we would cope. 
  • What about taking a chance on this striker, he's 43 so wouldn't cost a lot and is a prolific goalscorer at non league level.  I have followed this strikers career for years, always believing he would become a prolific goalscorer one day
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  • What about taking a chance on this striker, he's 43 so wouldn't cost a lot and is a prolific goalscorer at non league level.  I have followed this strikers career for years, always believing he would become a prolific goalscorer one day

    He probably still looks about 19!
  • Hopefully going back to the Theo Foley type football where we just set out to outscore the opposition. 
    Hopefully bloody NOT.   Theo's tippy tappy football got us relegated and never looked like getting back up from Div 3. 
  • swordfish said:
    Have to say I’m personally not on board with the not sure where the goals are coming from crowd. On the main it’s because it’s been a long time since we have had a manager and coaching set up which has been this focused and positive on having attacking intent. 

    Always going to be hard to score goals when you play a turgid one dimensional brand of football which is overly reliant on one player (CBT) to do any of the attacking. 

    We already have a progressive CB and attacking full backs signed for one, which I think will make a massive difference to how our midfield can link up attacks. 

    Now don’t get me wrong I’d like to see another quality striker and winger come in at the very least. But my hope is that BenBall will have the same effect on Charlton that BazBall has had on the England cricket team.
    Scott Fraser alone bagged 14 for MKD in 2020/21 so he's a proven goal scorer at this level. 
    His other seasons at this level though saw him score 6, 5 and 1.

    I'm not quite sure he can be classed as a proven goalscorer, more that was just a very good season in a side playing a way that suited him. I'd personally be happy if we can get 7-8 goals from him.
    I can't see us agreeing on what constitutes a proven goal scorer, but confidence is key and we do need to see some goals coming from midfield in the remaining pre season games.
  • swordfish said:
    swordfish said:
    Have to say I’m personally not on board with the not sure where the goals are coming from crowd. On the main it’s because it’s been a long time since we have had a manager and coaching set up which has been this focused and positive on having attacking intent. 

    Always going to be hard to score goals when you play a turgid one dimensional brand of football which is overly reliant on one player (CBT) to do any of the attacking. 

    We already have a progressive CB and attacking full backs signed for one, which I think will make a massive difference to how our midfield can link up attacks. 

    Now don’t get me wrong I’d like to see another quality striker and winger come in at the very least. But my hope is that BenBall will have the same effect on Charlton that BazBall has had on the England cricket team.
    Scott Fraser alone bagged 14 for MKD in 2020/21 so he's a proven goal scorer at this level. 
    His other seasons at this level though saw him score 6, 5 and 1.

    I'm not quite sure he can be classed as a proven goalscorer, more that was just a very good season in a side playing a way that suited him. I'd personally be happy if we can get 7-8 goals from him.
    I can't see us agreeing on what constitutes a proven goal scorer, but confidence is key and we do need to see some goals coming from midfield in the remaining pre season games.
    There is no guarantee that if a "proven" goalscorer comes in that he will stay that way. Charlton have a history of signing players who score goals and then it dries up! Find a striker that suits the system that will be played as a start and go from there. 
  • experienced journeyman midfielder that can score goals... Awful photoshop. 
  • Have the physios complained to Sandgaard, saying that Aneke and Inniss wont keep them busy enough over the season?

    Amazing player, but god he's injury prone
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    We need another striker, possibly two and another left back. I'd be happy with that in all honesty.
    Very much agree with this.

    For the striker(s), I'd like to see at least one in the Grant/Taylor/Washington mould. I think Stockley is decent, but highly predictable to play against. With wingers like Kirk/CBT, oppositions can fairly safely assume that we're going to aim to just put it on his noggin most of the time. A player that can either run in behind or carry genuine pace scares the teams that just have meathead centre-halves that can only play against the Stockleys of this world. I'd love a statement signing in the form of Alfie May or Cole Stockton (both of whom I feel would add established finishing to our forward line), but I suspect there may be budget limitations. That said, we have been relatively shrewd so far though, so maybe? Add in a winger/striker on loan from above and I think it's feeling more solid in terms of attacking options.

    LB has been a problem for as long as I can remember. I felt like I saw plenty of serviceable options vs. us at home last season. Anyone who stays fit, isn't 32+, can defend and has plenty of gas in the tank would be fine, particularly if it's on a permanent 2-3 year deal. I feel like a loan in this position is fine, but I'd rather not have both our full backs on loans.

    I'm pleased with the business we've done so far. The ones that take longer are the ones that are hanging out for the best deal with the slimy agents. A decent striker would really give everyone a boost.
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  • Not keen on that one, but do we need an experienced pro in to guide what is now a young team? Or will we be ok with the influential players in their prime like Innis, JFC, Stockley, O Connell?
  • We’ve signed a midfielder from Luton the last 2 seasons and they just signed Luke Freeman in that position, for those reasons I think it’s a decent rumour - even if it is bollocks!
  • Do we need Lansbury, will he improve us, I’m not that convinced.  Just because we’ve all heard of him doesn’t make it exciting for me, I’m happy for us to nick players like McGrandles who are “shrewd” signings as the Ipswich Twitter page said.  

    Left back and the winger/forward next, anything after that is a bonus. 
  • Alfie May will sign for our ST addition: Source - Me 
  • Angela Lansbury has become underrated as lightweight because of Murder She Wrote but she is a good actress. Can’t see her ousting Forster Caskey in our midfield though.
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    A clean slate for Charlie Kirk but I'm struggling to see at the moment what his strengths are. His main claim to fame was he was good at giving the pass to an overlapping Pickering at Crewe. He needs to get sharper and work hard as we can't afford any passengers this season.
    Cafc gave him a 4 year contract to get the signing done so talent is there but it is latent talent so far and Charlie deserves another chance as the bereavement happened just before he signed and his partner was probably unsettled as she had her dog grooming business up north. She has travelled down with him so a new start again.

    Every single players that puts on a Cafc shirt I want to succeed and Charlie is no different. Some players will and some won't.
    I really hope this second chance works out for Kirk, partner and all Cafc supporters/critics.

  • Dave Rudd said:
    Still not enough goals. Until that’s addressed we won’t get out of this division.
    Correct.

    Even allowing for the 15 'wishful thinking' goals that Aneke will get from the treatment table bench.

    Davison is the interesting one.  He's clearly not good enough, and yet Garner fancied him enough last season.

    Is that a reflection on Garner's assessment of a player or a feature of the budget he was working with?

    I don't know who's out there that we might be able to attract, but a poacher is essential if we are to be serious contenders this season.

    Can Bairstow kick a ball?


    Why is aneke scoring 15 wishful thinking? He has done it for us before 
    Let's compare notes in May 2023, shall we?
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    Aneke in league one for us:

    Apps 47 (most of which are from the bench)
    Goals 19

    I don’t have the minutes per goal stats but I can assure anyone it’ll be very good.  If Chuks is fit, Chuks scores, at this level.  It’s only because of his terrible record with injury that we need another forward.  
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