The thing is. Reed would be the only player we’ve signed off of them, and it makes total sense to pick the best players from the previous managers club who know what he wants and how he wants to play.
Agree with you, but it is funny how we've bigged up our data-driven scouting, talked about our list of 357 transfer targets, and then just raided Swindon.
The thing is. Reed would be the only player we’ve signed off of them, and it makes total sense to pick the best players from the previous managers club who know what he wants and how he wants to play.
Agree with you, but it is funny how we've bigged up our data-driven scouting, talked about our list of 357 transfer targets, and then just raided Swindon.
Someone mentioned earlier and I think there is probably merit to it in that all these players WERE on our list originally and then they thought, let’s get the bloke that has put them there!
I also think that we’ve got the freebies out of the way quickly as there is less haggling and it just happens that two of them were from Swindon. They’ll need less time to be convinced on the project because they know what Garner is all about.
Regardless of how they were chosen, I'm quite liking the feeling that there is an actual plan in place this time around. Sure we can argue about th stepping up from L2 issue but it feels to me like we've gone out to sign players the manager actually wants and will fit into a style together instead of Adkins heading into a season not even knowing what his preferred formation is let alone best team.
Certainly I think we need some proven quality in to complement the "potential" from L2 but that will take more money and longer negotiations so I fully expect there to be a few more proven names in, just later on in the window.
Anyone willing to pay for access to Nixon’s Patreon to verify that?
From what I can tell it's not on there (haven't subscribed) I'd expect the fee to be more than that tbh. More like 3-400 + Davison. Edit: just looked at that insider account, seems to be a wind up.
Now they’ve sorted the defensive side with really promising out of contract players, I wonder if the cheque book will be used to bring in a quality toward or two? Cole Stockton and another?
The thing is. Reed would be the only player we’ve signed off of them, and it makes total sense to pick the best players from the previous managers club who know what he wants and how he wants to play.
Agree with you, but it is funny how we've bigged up our data-driven scouting, talked about our list of 357 transfer targets, and then just raided Swindon.
If you believe, and it is a big if, how much Thomas is driven by attacking, possession, high pressed football and data, you would highlight most of last seasons Swindon team somewhere on your depth charts of potential signings. Wouldn't you?
It wouldn't take a genius to work that out, join the dots, and just appoint the person that was, partly, responsible for it. Hope that he could do it again?
The thing is. Reed would be the only player we’ve signed off of them, and it makes total sense to pick the best players from the previous managers club who know what he wants and how he wants to play.
Agree with you, but it is funny how we've bigged up our data-driven scouting, talked about our list of 357 transfer targets, and then just raided Swindon.
If you believe, and it is a big if, how much Thomas is driven by attacking, possession, high pressed football and data, you would highlight most of last seasons Swindon team somewhere on your depth charts of potential signings. Wouldn't you?
It wouldn't take a genius to work that out, join the dots, and just appoint the person that was, partly, responsible for it. Hope that he could do it again?
I think you've taken my post too seriously! Got no problem with the signings or the approach, just think it's funny.
The thing is. Reed would be the only player we’ve signed off of them, and it makes total sense to pick the best players from the previous managers club who know what he wants and how he wants to play.
Agree with you, but it is funny how we've bigged up our data-driven scouting, talked about our list of 357 transfer targets, and then just raided Swindon.
If you believe, and it is a big if, how much Thomas is driven by attacking, possession, high pressed football and data, you would highlight most of last seasons Swindon team somewhere on your depth charts of potential signings. Wouldn't you?
It wouldn't take a genius to work that out, join the dots, and just appoint the person that was, partly, responsible for it. Hope that he could do it again?
To an extent, as after all they were playing in a division below us, therefore they are "in general" going to be more L2 standard than L1 standard, let alone L1 promotion team standard. There's a reason why players are at a certain level.
Of course there will be hidden gems amongst the L2 teams, and players on the up.
The thing is. Reed would be the only player we’ve signed off of them, and it makes total sense to pick the best players from the previous managers club who know what he wants and how he wants to play.
Agree with you, but it is funny how we've bigged up our data-driven scouting, talked about our list of 357 transfer targets, and then just raided Swindon.
If you believe, and it is a big if, how much Thomas is driven by attacking, possession, high pressed football and data, you would highlight most of last seasons Swindon team somewhere on your depth charts of potential signings. Wouldn't you?
It wouldn't take a genius to work that out, join the dots, and just appoint the person that was, partly, responsible for it. Hope that he could do it again?
To an extent, as after all they were playing in a division below us, therefore they are "in general" going to be more L2 standard than L1 standard, let alone L1 promotion team standard. There's a reason why players are at a certain level.
Of course there will be hidden gems amongst the L2 teams, and players on the up.
Agreed generally, however. Wollacott is a bit of a risk as he is inexperienced and it’s just one decent season. Egbo is too but had the potential, not like he’s a 30 year old who has hung round league 2 for a decade. Reed played in League 1 young, had to step down to play more regularly but shouldn’t have hit his prime yet. McKirdy would be a risk but Payne has only had one season in the League 2 (since he was a young 20 year old). Twice previously he’s scored a decent amount of goals in League 1.
I don’t want all of Swindon’s team but I can easily see a case for Reed, Payne and McKirdy. Let’s not forget it wasn’t their attacking play that cost them promotion. They were probably only a defender away from promotion and I also reckon they’d have gone up had they kept Simpson all season. We can get promoted with 4/5 of their players, they’re just unlikely to be as good for us as they were last season.
The thing is. Reed would be the only player we’ve signed off of them, and it makes total sense to pick the best players from the previous managers club who know what he wants and how he wants to play.
Agree with you, but it is funny how we've bigged up our data-driven scouting, talked about our list of 357 transfer targets, and then just raided Swindon.
If you believe, and it is a big if, how much Thomas is driven by attacking, possession, high pressed football and data, you would highlight most of last seasons Swindon team somewhere on your depth charts of potential signings. Wouldn't you?
It wouldn't take a genius to work that out, join the dots, and just appoint the person that was, partly, responsible for it. Hope that he could do it again?
To an extent, as after all they were playing in a division below us, therefore they are "in general" going to be more L2 standard than L1 standard, let alone L1 promotion team standard. There's a reason why players are at a certain level.
Of course there will be hidden gems amongst the L2 teams, and players on the up.
Agreed generally, however. Wollacott is a bit of a risk as he is inexperienced and it’s just one decent season. Egbo is too but had the potential, not like he’s a 30 year old who has hung round league 2 for a decade. Reed played in League 1 young, had to step down to play more regularly but shouldn’t have hit his prime yet. McKirdy would be a risk but Payne has only had one season in the League 2 (since he was a young 20 year old). Twice previously he’s scored a decent amount of goals in League 1.
I don’t want all of Swindon’s team but I can easily see a case for Reed, Payne and McKirdy. Let’s not forget it wasn’t their attacking play that cost them promotion. They were probably only a defender away from promotion and I also reckon they’d have gone up had they kept Simpson all season. We can get promoted with 4/5 of their players, they’re just unlikely to be as good for us as they were last season.
A good L2 side (e.g. Cheltenham) can stabilise in L1 next season with a solid mid table finish. Which is where we finished ourselves
My concern is whether the better Swindon players - not including Egbo who was only there as a short term signing - are anything more than solid L1 players, rather than the ones needed to be batting it out for automatic promotion.
The thing is. Reed would be the only player we’ve signed off of them, and it makes total sense to pick the best players from the previous managers club who know what he wants and how he wants to play.
Agree with you, but it is funny how we've bigged up our data-driven scouting, talked about our list of 357 transfer targets, and then just raided Swindon.
If you believe, and it is a big if, how much Thomas is driven by attacking, possession, high pressed football and data, you would highlight most of last seasons Swindon team somewhere on your depth charts of potential signings. Wouldn't you?
It wouldn't take a genius to work that out, join the dots, and just appoint the person that was, partly, responsible for it. Hope that he could do it again?
To an extent, as after all they were playing in a division below us, therefore they are "in general" going to be more L2 standard than L1 standard, let alone L1 promotion team standard. There's a reason why players are at a certain level.
Of course there will be hidden gems amongst the L2 teams, and players on the up.
Agreed generally, however. Wollacott is a bit of a risk as he is inexperienced and it’s just one decent season. Egbo is too but had the potential, not like he’s a 30 year old who has hung round league 2 for a decade. Reed played in League 1 young, had to step down to play more regularly but shouldn’t have hit his prime yet. McKirdy would be a risk but Payne has only had one season in the League 2 (since he was a young 20 year old). Twice previously he’s scored a decent amount of goals in League 1.
I don’t want all of Swindon’s team but I can easily see a case for Reed, Payne and McKirdy. Let’s not forget it wasn’t their attacking play that cost them promotion. They were probably only a defender away from promotion and I also reckon they’d have gone up had they kept Simpson all season. We can get promoted with 4/5 of their players, they’re just unlikely to be as good for us as they were last season.
A good L2 side (e.g. Cheltenham) can stabilise in L1 next season with a solid mid table finish. Which is where we finished ourselves
My concern is whether the better Swindon players - not including Egbo who was only there as a short term signing - are anything more than solid L1 players, rather than the ones needed to be batting it out for automatic promotion.
No I totally agree, they're all a risk, could go one way or the other. Wollacott clearly plays the way Garner wants but a keeper is there to stop us conceding goals too. If we've got AMB or Mac as competition, on paper we've got 2 decent keepers. I'd like another RB if Egbo doesn't work out. Payne I'd sign but I see him exactly the same as Fraser. Left-footed, gets on the ball and can chip in with goals. Perfect signing for competition, not sure they can work in the same team. Reed as competition for Dobson too makes sense. I wouldn't want to go into the season with McKirdy, DJ, Kirk and CBT as our 4 wingers, but if we could offload DJ/Kirk and sign another main one then that suddenly looks quite exciting.
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And the October after that.
I also think that we’ve got the freebies out of the way quickly as there is less haggling and it just happens that two of them were from Swindon. They’ll need less time to be convinced on the project because they know what Garner is all about.
Certainly I think we need some proven quality in to complement the "potential" from L2 but that will take more money and longer negotiations so I fully expect there to be a few more proven names in, just later on in the window.
More are planned if a bigger demand is met. 🫣
It wouldn't take a genius to work that out, join the dots, and just appoint the person that was, partly, responsible for it. Hope that he could do it again?
Of course there will be hidden gems amongst the L2 teams, and players on the up.
My concern is whether the better Swindon players - not including Egbo who was only there as a short term signing - are anything more than solid L1 players, rather than the ones needed to be batting it out for automatic promotion.