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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)

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  • I haven't seen enough of Tucker to know if we have lost out or not ... but he wasn't impressive in the game that I did see at The Valley.

    Also, didn't his team get relegated?

    Perspective.
  • swordfish said:
    Swisdom said:
    ButtleJR said:
    Jack tucker announced for MK
    Was never a serious target a name splashed about on social media .. fact is he was pretty poor last season and played mostly holding mid role .. two years ago he would have got a championship move now he ended up at MK Dons and not someone like us or Ipswich .. that says it all about where his career is at the moment 

    I often read your comments and roll my eyes but never bite.

    im hot and bothered today but…..


    You don’t half talk some utter bollocks.  Complete and utter horse shit


    Sugar coating it @Swisdom? 🤣

    I'm only a month into my CL experience, but I've noticed posts made by @RonnieMoore seem to attract a certain degree of animosity by way of reaction.

    Whilst it's quite entertaining and funny for me as I'm blissfully unaware of the background, I hope he takes the ribbing in good part and has a thick skin.

    His views sometimes seem at odds with others, and he's not always right, who is?  but many lifers disagree without resorting to the sort of open hostility that seems specially reserved for him, fair or not. I feel like I'm intruding on a private feud!

    I've no knowledge of this other forum he apparently contributes to, or what he says on there, so I can't comment on that.

    It might be best if I was spared the details and remained ignorant, but to an outsider, I have to say the bitterness isn't a good look.

    BTW, back in the day, I paid my pound to secure the real Ronnie's services as requested by Lennie and have fond memories of him playing for us, both in defence and attack. What is it they say, there's more unites us than divides us!

    I suspect this aimless post might attract a couple of lol's given the feeling towards him, but I couldn't resist poking my snout in after seeing Swisdom's hilarious outburst.
    You're new, give it time
  • Since Garner joined, in spite of us allegedly having all these targets lined up and being “kept warm”, everything has gone very quiet. If there are no signings and no coaching support imminently arriving, what is the point of the trip to Spain? Indeed would this potentially hinder us in trying to do any business during this trip?  If the current situation continues in spite of any assurances given to Garner, will he remain compliant and still be at CAFC heading into next season? Alas, as things stand, can’t see good times ahead, but hope to be proven wrong 🤞
  • SweetCAFC said:
    Since Garner joined, in spite of us allegedly having all these targets lined up and being “kept warm”, everything has gone very quiet. If there are no signings and no coaching support imminently arriving, what is the point of the trip to Spain? Indeed would this potentially hinder us in trying to do any business during this trip?  If the current situation continues in spite of any assurances given to Garner, will he remain compliant and still be at CAFC heading into next season? Alas, as things stand, can’t see good times ahead, but hope to be proven wrong 🤞
    Yet another one of these 'let me try and bum everyone out and then say i hope it doesn't happen posts'.
    Misery loves company.
  • Redrobo said:
    Of all the positions we have argued need filling the most urgently, I can’t remember right sided centre half being one of them. 
    I have read a few questioning:-
    If Inniss will ever string a few games together. 
    If Lavelle will stay fit and push on. 
    If Elewere is good enough to step up. 
    If Barker has lost it. 
    If Clair could play there in a four.

    Could it just be that our recruitment team know what they are doing? Our budget needs to be spent on the type of players we REALLY need IMO, not on those that would be handy to have and may make a bit in a few years time. We are a long way of that. 
    On the day Garner signed there was an interview with Steve Gallen. He categorically said that it was very clear we would be needing some central defenders (seeing as Pearce had left & Famewo gone back to Norwich). He even intimated that THIS area was a priority above all others. 

    So yes, Centre Halves are players we REALLY  need. 
  • Macronate said:
    MK Dons have announced two other signings as well but have only released one picture:


    Benny and Alan too. 
  • paulfox said:
    paulfox said:
    At at the end of the day whether we were in for him or not, he’s gone elsewhere, that happens, move on!!  If he was available and wanted to play for us he would have, he obviously didn’t. Doesn’t mean our recruitment team have done a shit job, it means we’ve missed out, or was never happening anyway. I look forward to welcoming players that WANT to play for us.
    Do you know any because I don't.  
    And that’s the point, just because you don’t , doesn’t mean anything. 
    So you don't either 🤔 
    Priceless. Thank you for your comedic value.
  • Major said:
    SweetCAFC said:
    Since Garner joined, in spite of us allegedly having all these targets lined up and being “kept warm”, everything has gone very quiet. If there are no signings and no coaching support imminently arriving, what is the point of the trip to Spain? Indeed would this potentially hinder us in trying to do any business during this trip?  If the current situation continues in spite of any assurances given to Garner, will he remain compliant and still be at CAFC heading into next season? Alas, as things stand, can’t see good times ahead, but hope to be proven wrong 🤞
    Yet another one of these 'let me try and bum everyone out and then say i hope it doesn't happen posts'.
    Misery loves company.
    Is that why you’re here? 

    Every post you make is just digging someone out. 
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  • Swisdom said:
    Tucker has gone elsewhere - oh well move down the list.  That’s why we don’t put all our eggs in one basket

    MKDons we’re offering him a good package as far back as our Ipswich game

    theyve been on his trail for as long as we have and are, as painful as it is to admit, ahead of us at present by about a season.

    on to the next
    So is the polite way of saying they offered a better contract than we did? 
  • I'm going to suggest both Wigan and Ipswich got their number one targets last year.  One got promoted, one finshed one place above us. 

    The difference?  The coaching and the mix of players they got I'm going to suggest.

    If we don't get a handful of our number one targets we won't be challenging for promotion.


  • Swisdom said:
    Wait, so we've been tracking Tucker for months, possibly had a word with his old man (correct me if wrong swisdom), yet once available, and on a free no less... we ..... Wasn't actually..in for him....






    Ok. 
    Wait, so we've been tracking Tucker for months, possibly had a word with his old man (correct me if wrong swisdom), yet once available, and on a free no less... we ..... Wasn't actually..in for him....






    Ok. 
    We definitely were after him but maybe Garner vetoed it or maybe Tucker wanted to go to MK

    we just don’t know

    but that’s why we have numerous players for each position on our shipping lists
    I don’t think Garner wanted him.. not sure he suits the style.. to be honest, surprised MK dons are in for him!
  • edited June 2022
    alangee said:
    Didn't Swisdom say that Tuckers agent was asking silly money?  Maybe that is why we are not being that active in pursuit.
    Every agent will ask for silly money early in the window to test the waters. Once players return to pre-season training, friendlies start and we get closer to the season, those demands will drop.

    Apart from Ipswich, no club in league one is paying silly money. I very much doubt MK are paying him loads, they seem to be a well run club.
  • SweetCAFC said:
    Since Garner joined, in spite of us allegedly having all these targets lined up and being “kept warm”, everything has gone very quiet. If there are no signings and no coaching support imminently arriving, what is the point of the trip to Spain? Indeed would this potentially hinder us in trying to do any business during this trip?  If the current situation continues in spite of any assurances given to Garner, will he remain compliant and still be at CAFC heading into next season? Alas, as things stand, can’t see good times ahead, but hope to be proven wrong 🤞
    Are you seriously saying that Garner could be off before the season starts if no signings were made soon ????

    And I thought I was a pessimist.
    You know it's time to give up when golfie calls you out for being moody 😂
  • Redrobo said:
    Of all the positions we have argued need filling the most urgently, I can’t remember right sided centre half being one of them. 
    I have read a few questioning:-
    If Inniss will ever string a few games together. 
    If Lavelle will stay fit and push on. 
    If Elewere is good enough to step up. 
    If Barker has lost it. 
    If Clair could play there in a four.

    Could it just be that our recruitment team know what they are doing? Our budget needs to be spent on the type of players we REALLY need IMO, not on those that would be handy to have and may make a bit in a few years time. We are a long way of that. 
    On the day Garner signed there was an interview with Steve Gallen. He categorically said that it was very clear we would be needing some central defenders (seeing as Pearce had left & Famewo gone back to Norwich). He even intimated that THIS area was a priority above all others. 

    So yes, Centre Halves are players we REALLY  need. 
    Or did he just say defenders?  We have 3 natural centre backs on the books already as listed by Redrobo above. Full backs none. So yes we need one more CB, but I would argue not a priority over full or wing backs. And most likely a left footed centre back which Tucker is not.

    Apologies in advance if you are right in what Gallen said but either way I'm with Redrobo on this, purely based on our squad gaps. 
  • SweetCAFC said:
    Since Garner joined, in spite of us allegedly having all these targets lined up and being “kept warm”, everything has gone very quiet. If there are no signings and no coaching support imminently arriving, what is the point of the trip to Spain? Indeed would this potentially hinder us in trying to do any business during this trip?  If the current situation continues in spite of any assurances given to Garner, will he remain compliant and still be at CAFC heading into next season? Alas, as things stand, can’t see good times ahead, but hope to be proven wrong 🤞
    Because Garner wanted to check the squad we had and as SG said some targets have been scrapped and some new ones now added to our list at the request of Garner …. The point of Spain is Garner to look at some of the younger players that I would say Euell advised him about ..plus there will be new signings before they go 
  • I'm hoping Naby's advisers get realistic. I'd have him over Tucker any day of the week. Also, it may betray my current football philosophy, and not be how we want to set up, but I picture Innis, Lavelle, Sarr and Stockley up for a corner or set piece and it feels orgasmic. I'll get my coat.
    There is no reason you can't have both.  Didn't Man City score the most goals from corners last season?  
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  • Cafc43v3r said:
    I'm hoping Naby's advisers get realistic. I'd have him over Tucker any day of the week. Also, it may betray my current football philosophy, and not be how we want to set up, but I picture Innis, Lavelle, Sarr and Stockley up for a corner or set piece and it feels orgasmic. I'll get my coat.
    There is no reason you can't have both.  Didn't Man City score the most goals from corners last season?  
    Dedicated set-piece coach as well. 
  • It will not surprise me if we get Dion Conroy, Swindon’s captain last season, ex Chelsea academy player and can apparently play a bit. He’s turned down a new contract and is a free agent. Only 26 so fits the bill. 
  • Does seem disappointing that we missed out on Tucker at face value - coveted, young, local centre back on a free. Won’t make or break a season but could have been part of the puzzle. 
  • .AFKABartram said:
    Swisdom said:
    Tucker has gone elsewhere - oh well move down the list.  That’s why we don’t put all our eggs in one basket

    MKDons we’re offering him a good package as far back as our Ipswich game

    theyve been on his trail for as long as we have and are, as painful as it is to admit, ahead of us at present by about a season.

    on to the next
    So is the polite way of saying they offered a better contract than we did? 
    Maybe they did. Maybe they have a priority for a position that they were prepared to pay more to fill.
    I would guess that we have a broad idea how much it will cost to fill each positions we need, with two or three key areas a priority. We need to concentrate on those.
    We would have probably signed Tucker if Gillingham were asking a realistic amount of compensation (bearing in mind Skully hates us), and that the player himself was happy with the contract. I would guess the Gills would be asking at least £200k + a sell on fee of at least +20% + promotion and appearance money.
    If it was going to cost more than our valuation we would quite rightly just step aside if it would then mean missing out on a priority target. A right footed CH is not a priority IMO, and even if it where, who is to say that we could not fill it with a loan or a free agent?
    We also have up and coming players in that position with Elewere and Harris O’Conner.

    Recruitment is such a difficult job with all the judgment calls that need to be made. I trust SG and the team to get more right than wrong.

    p.s wouldn’t you love to be there as a fly on the wall? Must be fascinating.
  • paulfox said:
    paulfox said:
    At at the end of the day whether we were in for him or not, he’s gone elsewhere, that happens, move on!!  If he was available and wanted to play for us he would have, he obviously didn’t. Doesn’t mean our recruitment team have done a shit job, it means we’ve missed out, or was never happening anyway. I look forward to welcoming players that WANT to play for us.
    Do you know any because I don't.  
    And that’s the point, just because you don’t , doesn’t mean anything. 
    So you don't either 🤔 
    Of course I don’t, but I’m patiently waiting to see who we do get, stop being a dickhead🙄
  • I'm hoping Naby's advisers get realistic. I'd have him over Tucker any day of the week. Also, it may betray my current football philosophy, and not be how we want to set up, but I picture Innis, Lavelle, Sarr and Stockley up for a corner or set piece and it feels orgasmic. I'll get my coat.
    Why would having Naby up for a corner exite you?
    As far as I recall he only scored once from a corner for us, even that with his feet.
    Pearcey was more threatening than Naby from corners.
  • _MrDick said:
    I am reliably informed that Jack Tucker got very confused when he met both the Charlton Manager and the MKD Manager. He thought Ben Garner was going to be his new manager 🤔🙄


    Not sure who that is with Tucker (definitely uncanny), but its not Liam Manning.
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