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Chris Gunter - gone to AFC Wimbledon (p6)
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Wimbledon can look forward to an upturn in their form around the world cup then6
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We'll have to agree to disagree on that one.SELR_addicks said:
Wasn't really one of lack of ability for Gunter though is it? He's fine for Wales.ElliotCAFC said:
It is League 2 though. I’m sure he’d be happy to take most of our squad from last season into a full season in the league below.killerandflash said:So Jacko goes back for the player he hardly played and completely ignored for the last 8 games of the season
It's a lack of attitude, something that Jackson couldn't get out of him. So it is really an odd one that he'd want him back in a side playing poorly again.
Think it was a bit of both.0 -
Thought for a minute he had resigned for us, yes, bullet dodged!!!
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Don't normally get too bothered about players but I really can't stand Gunter. Stole a wage from us. Apart from Taylor I can't think of another player in recent years I think less of.7
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The 'Scapegoat' has 'scaped to league two0
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Watch his performances fall off a cliff the moment the World Cup is out the way.3
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He'll still be picked. After all Jonny was still picked despite playing in L2.Chris_from_Sidcup said:Surely that's the death of his Welsh career now though? Wales have a number of defenders playing at a higher level than league 2.
If he does get picked for the WC then it's surely only as a thank you for his career and he'll get a token sub appearance at the end of their last game.
Gunter is a key part of the Welsh setup, whereas for example Adam Matthews isn't.0 -
I guess that’s a matter of opinion. I never saw him not trying, he just wasn’t very good at football.SELR_addicks said:
Wasn't really one of lack of ability for Gunter though is it? He's fine for Wales.ElliotCAFC said:
It is League 2 though. I’m sure he’d be happy to take most of our squad from last season into a full season in the league below.killerandflash said:So Jacko goes back for the player he hardly played and completely ignored for the last 8 games of the season
It's a lack of attitude, something that Jackson couldn't get out of him. So it is really an odd one that he'd want him back in a side playing poorly again.I don’t recall is attitude ever being questioned behind the scenes, I’d hazard a guess he’s incredibly professional off the pitch and that’s probably why Jackson is bringing him in to a very young squad.0 -
The sort of signing that will get Jacko the sack.5
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Jackson’s going to struggle at AFC imo. Obviously I don’t know what budget/constraints he’s working to, but this is a mental signing. A player well past it that only turns it on in his Wales shirt.Really odd given Jackson looked like he froze Gunter out when he was first appointed, and only brought him back when we needed cover at the back. Not a good decision and you question Jackson’s nous bringing someone like Gunter in7
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Won't work in a 3-5-2 eithercabbles said:Jackson’s going to struggle at AFC imo. Obviously I don’t know what budget/constraints he’s working to, but this is a mental signing. A player well past it that only turns it on in his Wales shirt.Really odd given Jackson looked like he froze Gunter out when he was first appointed, and only brought him back when we needed cover at the back. Not a good decision and you question Jackson’s nous bringing someone like Gunter in1 -
I suspect JJ only 'froze' Gunter out because he had an appearance clause. He clearly rates him.
A good signing in L2. Not sure where he would play in Jackson's 5 3 2 formation.2 -
Wimbledon's new kit: red shirts.cabbles said:Jackson’s going to struggle at AFC imo. Obviously I don’t know what budget/constraints he’s working to, but this is a mental signing. A player well past it that only turns it on in his Wales shirt.Really odd given Jackson looked like he froze Gunter out when he was first appointed, and only brought him back when we needed cover at the back. Not a good decision and you question Jackson’s nous bringing someone like Gunter in
Jacko's got it all sussed out.
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People use the phrase ‘froze him out’ far too much. Just because someone isn’t picked, doesn’t mean they’re frozen out.5
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It definitely looked like he was trying to do that at some points last season.ElliotCAFC said:
It is League 2 though. I’m sure he’d be happy to take most of our squad from last season into a full season in the league below.killerandflash said:So Jacko goes back for the player he hardly played and completely ignored for the last 8 games of the season4 -
He probably felt he just had better players than him ahead of him.cabbles said:Jackson’s going to struggle at AFC imo. Obviously I don’t know what budget/constraints he’s working to, but this is a mental signing. A player well past it that only turns it on in his Wales shirt.Really odd given Jackson looked like he froze Gunter out when he was first appointed, and only brought him back when we needed cover at the back. Not a good decision and you question Jackson’s nous bringing someone like Gunter in
As crap as we were last season we were quite a bit better than Wimbledon and they have probably lost a few as well.
Remember everyone saying that Euell, Pearce, Washington, Gilbey and God knows who else would go to Wimbledon?
Football doesn't work like that and they aren't all best buddies if they are in the team or don't like, or rate, each other if they aren't.0 -
I think if the truth ever comes to light, we might find an appearances bonus tucked away in this saga.
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If Gunter is part of the Wales World Cup finals squad in November ... has Wimbledon ever had a player in the World Cup finals before?
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Like you, I honestly can't remember.Cafc43v3r said:
Was Dave Bessent still at Wimbledon in 90? I think he had left by then.Oggy Red said:If Gunter is part of the Wales World Cup finals squad in November ... has Wimbledon ever had a player in the World Cup finals before?
Terry Phelan? 94? Kenny Cunningham? Guessing.
Plus, do we include 'old' Wimbledon or just the present incarnation?
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Oh Jacko what are you doing. Dropping another league and another level in motivation of has-beens.2
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Gunter never gave his all; never really was committed to the team. He had too many awful games for me to think he has anything to offer Wimbledon0
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This upsets me, I want to believe in JJ but he must’ve watched how shite Gunter was….this just makes Thomas seem correct….0
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Phelan was at Man City in 94, Cunningham joined Wimbledon in world cup year and left in another.......Cafc43v3r said:
Was Dave Bessent still at Wimbledon in 90? I think he had left by then.Oggy Red said:If Gunter is part of the Wales World Cup finals squad in November ... has Wimbledon ever had a player in the World Cup finals before?
Terry Phelan? 94? Kenny Cunningham? Guessing.0 -
Marcus Gayle for Jamaica in '98 maybe?Cafc43v3r said:
Was Dave Bessent still at Wimbledon in 90? I think he had left by then.Oggy Red said:If Gunter is part of the Wales World Cup finals squad in November ... has Wimbledon ever had a player in the World Cup finals before?
Terry Phelan? 94? Kenny Cunningham? Guessing.1 -
Efan Ekoku played in 98 but don't think he went to the world cup.Mr. Happy said:
Marcus Gayle for Jamaica in '98 maybe?Cafc43v3r said:
Was Dave Bessent still at Wimbledon in 90? I think he had left by then.Oggy Red said:If Gunter is part of the Wales World Cup finals squad in November ... has Wimbledon ever had a player in the World Cup finals before?
Terry Phelan? 94? Kenny Cunningham? Guessing.
Gayle certainly played in the 98 world cup and was still at Wimbledon:-)1 -
Robbie Earle played and scored for Jamaica in the 1998 World Cup finals in FranceOggy Red said:If Gunter is part of the Wales World Cup finals squad in November ... has Wimbledon ever had a player in the World Cup finals before?5 -
Perhaps ‘frozen out’ was the wrong choice of words. Regardless I think it’s a poor signing. He’s got no hunger. He might be a level below League One now, but it still doesn’t mean you can rely on experience and coast in the same way he did for us. I understand a lot of people didn’t think he was really that bad, but for me, he was.6
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Do you think Jackson would sign him, on probably quite good wages if he thought he coasted through games and didn't try?cabbles said:Perhaps ‘frozen out’ was the wrong choice of words. Regardless I think it’s a poor signing. He’s got no hunger. He might be a level below League One now, but it still doesn’t mean you can rely on experience and coast in the same way he did for us. I understand a lot of people didn’t think he was really that bad, but for me, he was.
I don't think I have ever seen a group of players, collectively, under perform as much as our "senior pros" have over the last two years. There are mitigating circumstances for some of them (that's not the same as I think we should keep/kept them).
I would love to known the real reason/s.0 -
That was what disappointed me about him. The Gunter who played for Wales was clearly a key member and leader of the squad, both on AND off the field, whereas I never got that vibe when he was with us, unlike other senior pros like Pearce, Pratley and even Watson (where the problem was physical rather than motivation)cabbles said:Perhaps ‘frozen out’ was the wrong choice of words. Regardless I think it’s a poor signing. He’s got no hunger. He might be a level below League One now, but it still doesn’t mean you can rely on experience and coast in the same way he did for us. I understand a lot of people didn’t think he was really that bad, but for me, he was.1
