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  • blimey that is a close call

  • "On Saturday, the Welsh government insisted Chester FC's stadium was in Wales".

    Because it is.
    Agreed but why don't Welsh police control their games? Cheshire police do 
    Or raise this in 2020 when the same situation arose...
  • "On Saturday, the Welsh government insisted Chester FC's stadium was in Wales".

    Because it is.
    Agreed but why don't Welsh police control their games? Cheshire police do 
    No Idea, but whichever force gets the job they surely have to be aware of here they are and what the law is in that place.
  • No issue last season when Chester played in front of 2k in December, whilst Welsh football was behind close doors.  Chester wont receive any money from Welsh government having if they play behind close doors. No reason for them not to continue like normal
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  • edited January 8
    iainment said:
    This is where it is all a bit preposterous, but I suppose you have to draw the line (literally) somewhere.

    2,000 fans could legally stand in close proximity in the stadium car park, but cant walk 100 yards and spread out more safely on open terraces.

    Devolution was one of Blair's many legacies. It has resulted in parish councillors like Drakeford running countries and implementing policy for the sake of differentiation. This is the man that ordered supermarkets to close aisles to prevent people from buying coats last winter.


    Well, that’s the thing with countries. They begin and end somewhere.
    There should be no borders, everyone should be free to go where they want.
    There should certainly be no borders within the UK (as much as Sturgeon would want one). Nation states and their borders exist for a reason. Even where some countries choice to suspend their borders (e.g Schengen) the external borders are maintained, and periodically the open borders are suspended, and rightly so. With complete freedom as you suggest the world would be plunged into chaos and disorder.

    Anyway, a bit deep for a discussion on twatty welsh councils looking to make a name for themselves.
  • Invade, hang the leaders and subjugate them once and for all.
  • Seen so much of this nonsense, with a head office in Cardiff. Good job Chester races take place in the summer... 
  • It is quite ridiculous for such a ruling to go ahead really. The front door is in England and all the fans apparently enter from there.

    What about all the Welsh who went to England on New Year's Eve   parked and drank like  mad and went back.  

    Surely the risk if Covid is stronger there and presumably most fans went home to a house in England. 

    Tin pot local politicians. They have list focus on why they decide to have different rules. 

    Surely the rules they implement are aimed at Welsh people who they ignored when flooding into England. 
  • Time to get out the longbows. 
  • It is quite ridiculous for such a ruling to go ahead really. The front door is in England and all the fans apparently enter from there.

    What about all the Welsh who went to England on New Year's Eve   parked and drank like  mad and went back.  

    Surely the risk if Covid is stronger there and presumably most fans went home to a house in England. 

    Tin pot local politicians. They have list focus on why they decide to have different rules. 

    Surely the rules they implement are aimed at Welsh people who they ignored when flooding into England. 
    I’m not sure your equivalence with Welsh people coming to England for NYE holds up to scrutiny. Presumably Welsh people in England should follow English rules just as English people (Chester supporters) in Wales (Chester’s stadium, based on that map above) should follow Welsh rules. 
  • se9addick said:
    It is quite ridiculous for such a ruling to go ahead really. The front door is in England and all the fans apparently enter from there.

    What about all the Welsh who went to England on New Year's Eve   parked and drank like  mad and went back.  

    Surely the risk if Covid is stronger there and presumably most fans went home to a house in England. 

    Tin pot local politicians. They have list focus on why they decide to have different rules. 

    Surely the rules they implement are aimed at Welsh people who they ignored when flooding into England. 
    I’m not sure your equivalence with Welsh people coming to England for NYE holds up to scrutiny. Presumably Welsh people in England should follow English rules just as English people (Chester supporters) in Wales (Chester’s stadium, based on that map above) should follow Welsh rules. 
    2,000 supporters can stand in the car park of the stadium (in England) and can watch the game on screens, but the Welsh authorities would prevent those 2,000 fans from walking 100 yards (into Wales) and disperse on open terracing where social distancing could be adhered to.

    If they stopped them doing so, then it would be a de facto political decision overriding any consideration of public health.
  • Llanymynech Golf Club. 

    You tee off in England (Oswestry) and after the 5th hole you are in Wales.
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  • se9addick said:
    It is quite ridiculous for such a ruling to go ahead really. The front door is in England and all the fans apparently enter from there.

    What about all the Welsh who went to England on New Year's Eve   parked and drank like  mad and went back.  

    Surely the risk if Covid is stronger there and presumably most fans went home to a house in England. 

    Tin pot local politicians. They have list focus on why they decide to have different rules. 

    Surely the rules they implement are aimed at Welsh people who they ignored when flooding into England. 
    I’m not sure your equivalence with Welsh people coming to England for NYE holds up to scrutiny. Presumably Welsh people in England should follow English rules just as English people (Chester supporters) in Wales (Chester’s stadium, based on that map above) should follow Welsh rules. 
    2,000 supporters can stand in the car park of the stadium (in England) and can watch the game on screens, but the Welsh authorities would prevent those 2,000 fans from walking 100 yards (into Wales) and disperse on open terracing where social distancing could be adhered to.

    If they stopped them doing so, then it would be a de facto political decision overriding any consideration of public health.
    Right, because English rules/laws apply in England and Welsh rules/laws apply in Wales. Not sure why it’s hard to understand. 
  • edited January 8
    se9addick said:
    se9addick said:
    It is quite ridiculous for such a ruling to go ahead really. The front door is in England and all the fans apparently enter from there.

    What about all the Welsh who went to England on New Year's Eve   parked and drank like  mad and went back.  

    Surely the risk if Covid is stronger there and presumably most fans went home to a house in England. 

    Tin pot local politicians. They have list focus on why they decide to have different rules. 

    Surely the rules they implement are aimed at Welsh people who they ignored when flooding into England. 
    I’m not sure your equivalence with Welsh people coming to England for NYE holds up to scrutiny. Presumably Welsh people in England should follow English rules just as English people (Chester supporters) in Wales (Chester’s stadium, based on that map above) should follow Welsh rules. 
    2,000 supporters can stand in the car park of the stadium (in England) and can watch the game on screens, but the Welsh authorities would prevent those 2,000 fans from walking 100 yards (into Wales) and disperse on open terracing where social distancing could be adhered to.

    If they stopped them doing so, then it would be a de facto political decision overriding any consideration of public health.
    Right, because English rules/laws apply in England and Welsh rules/laws apply in Wales. Not sure why it’s hard to understand. 
    Funnily enough I get that - I'm just pointing out the nonsense of the situation, and the farcical consequences of devolution of power to incompetent political pointscorers.
  • se9addick said:
    It is quite ridiculous for such a ruling to go ahead really. The front door is in England and all the fans apparently enter from there.

    What about all the Welsh who went to England on New Year's Eve   parked and drank like  mad and went back.  

    Surely the risk if Covid is stronger there and presumably most fans went home to a house in England. 

    Tin pot local politicians. They have list focus on why they decide to have different rules. 

    Surely the rules they implement are aimed at Welsh people who they ignored when flooding into England. 
    I’m not sure your equivalence with Welsh people coming to England for NYE holds up to scrutiny. Presumably Welsh people in England should follow English rules just as English people (Chester supporters) in Wales (Chester’s stadium, based on that map above) should follow Welsh rules. 
    My argument  is that having done in England what they couldn't do in Wales they then go back with the possibility of either transmitting or catching covid and taking it back. 
    Have they there for done exactly what the Welsh Assembly tried to stop and therefore gone against the spirit of the rules in  Wales.
  • Time to get out the longbows. 
    Most, or many, long bow archers in the English armies were Welsh.
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    TNS, who's ground is in England, have been told they must play there games behind closed doors because everyone else is...... 
    So they won’t be dancing on the streets of Total Network Solutions after all.
  • cafctom said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    TNS, who's ground is in England, have been told they must play there games behind closed doors because everyone else is...... 
    So they won’t be dancing on the streets of Total Network Solutions after all.
    They will, they just won't be watching the football.

  • iainment said:
    This is where it is all a bit preposterous, but I suppose you have to draw the line (literally) somewhere.

    2,000 fans could legally stand in close proximity in the stadium car park, but cant walk 100 yards and spread out more safely on open terraces.

    Devolution was one of Blair's many legacies. It has resulted in parish councillors like Drakeford running countries and implementing policy for the sake of differentiation. This is the man that ordered supermarkets to close aisles to prevent people from buying coats last winter.


    Well, that’s the thing with countries. They begin and end somewhere.
    There should be no borders, everyone should be free to go where they want.
    Apart from the French......and Novac Johavich!
  • I was looking at a pub for sale that is in Shrewsbury, Shropshire, but on the Welsh side of the border 🤷‍♂️
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