If they really wanted to confirm Bond as dead they would have shown him dying, dead, or a funeral. They showed none of them, purposely I believe, leaving a (small) percentage of ambiguity for idiots like me and @se9addick
A friend of mine in it, he's done quite a few of the recent bond films.
Clem? I interviewed him a few months back in a piece I wrote about extras. He and my mate Sid always get pulled to the front of these shots. Clem is a pro at it! Lovely bloke.
If they really wanted to confirm Bond as dead they would have shown him dying, dead, or a funeral. They showed none of them, purposely I believe, leaving a (small) percentage of ambiguity for idiots like me and @se9addick
Bond movie: “here’s James Bond being blown up and engulfed in flames”
A friend of mine in it, he's done quite a few of the recent bond films.
Clem? I interviewed him a few months back in a piece I wrote about extras. He and my mate Sid always get pulled to the front of these shots. Clem is a pro at it! Lovely bloke.
Yes ! Very good artist too, I met him at one of my first ever exhibitions as he was also taking part. Very nice chap as you say and very busy in the extras industry (as you know !)
Does Bond definitely die for at the end? I thought it was left intentionally ambiguous.
There was no ambiguity about how he died!
Did you see him dead?
I saw him with a virus that was about to kill him on an island that was blown to smithereens. If the next bond starts with him surviving that then it will be ridiculous.
I'm convinced the next film will be a complete reboot with a lesser known actor.
My understanding is he wasn't in any danger from the virus. It was targeted at the mother of his child (or maybe the child as well?) using DNA profiling. But he could be never rid himself of the virus so he could never have close contact with the mother or child for the rest of his life.
Does Bond definitely die for at the end? I thought it was left intentionally ambiguous.
There was no ambiguity about how he died!
Did you see him dead?
I saw him with a virus that was about to kill him on an island that was blown to smithereens. If the next bond starts with him surviving that then it will be ridiculous.
I'm convinced the next film will be a complete reboot with a lesser known actor.
My understanding is he wasn't in any danger from the virus. It was targeted at the mother of his child (or maybe the child as well?) using DNA profiling. But he could be never rid himself of the virus so he could never have close contact with the mother or child for the rest of his life.
It's spread by touch I think so it's not just he can't touch them, he can't touch ANYONE as they could touch someone who could touch someone else etc etc and won't "die" like a virus because it's nanobots. Which is a bit preposterous perhaps but this IS a Bond film.
I’m pretty sure it was targeted at the DNA of Mr Green’s family (Lea Seydoux and her offspring). Otherwise Bond would have instantly died.
Thats how I understood it as well, and he definitely was exploded at the end which I thought was a brave call, it would have been very Bond for him to find a miraculous escape in a waste chute or something and driven off into the sunset with Lea Seydoux and their blue eyed little girl with Louis Armstrong providing the soundtrack
If they really wanted to confirm Bond as dead they would have shown him dying, dead, or a funeral. They showed none of them, purposely I believe, leaving a (small) percentage of ambiguity for idiots like me and @se9addick
Watched it today. Thought it was excellent. I'm a bit Meh about Craig as Bond. Don't know why. He's excellent. I haven't watched many of his. Maybe Skyfall? Anyhow,we decided to watch Spectre last night which was lucky or wouldn't have had a clue today! My Mrs was shocked that he's got a little girl, until I pointed out he's probably got 50!
No way he is dead. This franchise makes far too much money.
Watched it today. Thought it was excellent. I'm a bit Meh about Craig as Bond. Don't know why. He's excellent. I haven't watched many of his. Maybe Skyfall? Anyhow,we decided to watch Spectre last night which was lucky or wouldn't have had a clue today! My Mrs was shocked that he's got a little girl, until I pointed out he's probably got 50!
No way he is dead. This franchise makes far too much money.
The Craig Bond is dead . A new James Bond will arise
It just goes to show how thankful we should all be that we all have different opinions. I loved it, the nods to previous Bond films, the action sequences, the ending. Glad @JohnBoyUK mentioned that he welled up at the end, I have no idea why but when Louis Armstrong started I really did fill up. I loved OHMSS, it will always be one of my top 10 favourite films of all time and to hear that music really did get me. Loved it.
It got me too. Loved the film but am still gutted they killed him off. Felt exactly the same as when Han Solo got killed in The Force Awakens. God knows how my sis managed to keep it from me, knowing how much of a Bond fan I am. She worked on the film and Universal were paranoid about it getting out. She had to sign all sorts of NDA’s and apparently the security around it was like nothing she’s ever seen before.
I enjoyed the film but I preferred Spectre. Probably because I am a fan of Christolph Waltz. I know he was in the latest film but with a much smaller part. I thought the ending was good and not really a problem when you think about the different numbers and variety of Bonds and times they operate in. It was the closure of Craig's Bond.
If they really wanted to confirm Bond as dead they would have shown him dying, dead, or a funeral. They showed none of them, purposely I believe, leaving a (small) percentage of ambiguity for idiots like me and @se9addick
Hes already been buried ot sea and come back.
I assume you realise that his death and burial at sea was a staged death and not supposed to be real.
If they really wanted to confirm Bond as dead they would have shown him dying, dead, or a funeral. They showed none of them, purposely I believe, leaving a (small) percentage of ambiguity for idiots like me and @se9addick
Hes already been buried ot sea and come back.
I assume you realise that his death and burial at sea was a staged death and not supposed to be real.
If they really wanted to confirm Bond as dead they would have shown him dying, dead, or a funeral. They showed none of them, purposely I believe, leaving a (small) percentage of ambiguity for idiots like me and @se9addick
Hes already been buried ot sea and come back.
I assume you realise that his death and burial at sea was a staged death and not supposed to be real.
Well derr!
In the context of the thread you didn’t make it clear.
It just goes to show how thankful we should all be that we all have different opinions. I loved it, the nods to previous Bond films, the action sequences, the ending. Glad @JohnBoyUK mentioned that he welled up at the end, I have no idea why but when Louis Armstrong started I really did fill up. I loved OHMSS, it will always be one of my top 10 favourite films of all time and to hear that music really did get me. Loved it.
It got me too. Loved the film but am still gutted they killed him off. Felt exactly the same as when Han Solo got killed in The Force Awakens. God knows how my sis managed to keep it from me, knowing how much of a Bond fan I am. She worked on the film and Universal were paranoid about it getting out. She had to sign all sorts of NDA’s and apparently the security around it was like nothing she’s ever seen before.
Bond defo returning and think people will have to come to terms with this having been a 5 movie Daniel Craig era with zero continuity or relevance to what occurs next. I reckon you are probably right, but this will be combined with re-imagining of previously released Bond books. Whatever it is, glad the character lives on and hope they keep it Craig level Bond gritty. None of the nonsense from the Pierce Brosnan phase.
I saw it the other night. Not been into Bond since the early eighties as nothing can beat films like Diamonds are Forever, Live & Let Die or Man with the Golden Gun. Which is why I post this.....
People moaning saying Bond is dead/isn't dead don't get the irony. If Bond is "real" then he would be about 100 now....yet is played (lately) as someone in his late forties/early fifties. How old was "Bond" when Roger Moore jumped over the sharks in the 70's......has he not aged since ? Sean Connery looked ancient with his hairpiece in Never Say Never.....and that was 40 years ago.
And the moniker 007 was passed back & forth in this last film, so no constant there either.
But like I say, I'm not a Bond aficionado so I expect some bright spark will now tell me about time continums or suchlike.
Daniel Craig was a reboot anyway, Casino Royale had him getting his 00 status, Blofeld was redone in Spectre etc. Judi Dench as M got older between him and Brosnan despite Bond being younger.
So any new Bond can just be the same, there's little continuity between the films and that's half the point.
1. They reboot, as they always used to do before Craig, and start again with a new Bond in a new "universe"
2. They decide that James Bond is actually just a moniker, an alias used for multiple people. James Bond can never die, because it's not just one person, and put that into the current "universe"
3. They sell their soul to the devil and turn Bond into an episodic series, with more comedy and drama than action, release it on Prime Video and cater it to the younger generation who consume media in smaller chunks
They were going to do that in Skyfall but Connery wouldn't come out of retirement for it, so they re-wrote it with Connery's Bond replaced with Albert Finney as Kincade. I'm withyou Dazzler that it would be good, but I don't think they will do that, as it'll fundamentally change the Bond franchise. I think they will go very young and take him back to college. Or they will give up on continuity entirely and do something utterly different, like The Batman has broken away from the DCEU.
I'm probably repeating myself but that's a theme of this thread - no matter how many times people are told how it works, someone comes back and says "Well I think Craig's Bond will return! He wasn't 100% dead!" which is baffling to me. Still.
I'm in a tiny tiny minority but I really like the over the top Brosnan Bond. I like watching Bond use outrageous gadgets and there being far fetched supervillains
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A friend of mine in it, he's done quite a few of the recent bond films.
If they really wanted to confirm Bond as dead they would have shown him dying, dead, or a funeral. They showed none of them, purposely I believe, leaving a (small) percentage of ambiguity for idiots like me and @se9addick
AFKA/ SE9: “well they didn’t show him dying”
Bond movie: “facepalm meme”
Very nice chap as you say and very busy in the extras industry (as you know !)
Thats how I understood it as well, and he definitely was exploded at the end which I thought was a brave call, it would have been very Bond for him to find a miraculous escape in a waste chute or something and driven off into the sunset with Lea Seydoux and their blue eyed little girl with Louis Armstrong providing the soundtrack
I'm a bit Meh about Craig as Bond. Don't know why. He's excellent. I haven't watched many of his. Maybe Skyfall?
Anyhow,we decided to watch Spectre last night which was lucky or wouldn't have had a clue today!
My Mrs was shocked that he's got a little girl, until I pointed out he's probably got 50!
No way he is dead. This franchise makes far too much money.
As, just when those that still ain't seen it are coming to terms with Bond getting killed, we've now been told it was staged.
People moaning saying Bond is dead/isn't dead don't get the irony. If Bond is "real" then he would be about 100 now....yet is played (lately) as someone in his late forties/early fifties. How old was "Bond" when Roger Moore jumped over the sharks in the 70's......has he not aged since ? Sean Connery looked ancient with his hairpiece in Never Say Never.....and that was 40 years ago.
And the moniker 007 was passed back & forth in this last film, so no constant there either.
But like I say, I'm not a Bond aficionado so I expect some bright spark will now tell me about time continums or suchlike.
To me it's a film. No more, no less.
So any new Bond can just be the same, there's little continuity between the films and that's half the point.
1. They reboot, as they always used to do before Craig, and start again with a new Bond in a new "universe"
2. They decide that James Bond is actually just a moniker, an alias used for multiple people. James Bond can never die, because it's not just one person, and put that into the current "universe"
3. They sell their soul to the devil and turn Bond into an episodic series, with more comedy and drama than action, release it on Prime Video and cater it to the younger generation who consume media in smaller chunks
James Bond 007 is the code name and number.
I'm probably repeating myself but that's a theme of this thread - no matter how many times people are told how it works, someone comes back and says "Well I think Craig's Bond will return! He wasn't 100% dead!" which is baffling to me. Still.