I'm still seething about this, it's bad enough getting rid of Apples 6 games later than he should've got but whoever is responsible for agreeing that Cbt can play us should be shot.
If, as I suspect we lose both the Derby games it could make all the difference at the end of the season.
This for me sums up not only the sheer stupidity of this Board but also for putting money ahead of survival... £300k is nothing bearing in mind the compensation payment to Holden and Apples. The Board should have taken less and told Derby to feck off.
They simply don't get it.
He didn’t want to be here, if you want to blame anyway it’s the old owners who didn’t renew his contract before going into the last year of a contract. Hopefully we invest that money in the next few days.
FWIW I'm someone who believes that although CBT provided us with some great moments at one end of the pitch he cost us an awful lot by not doing ANYTHING defensively or even attempting to close down, putting pressure on the middle of the park and the defence, costing us at the other end. This, unfortunately is unquantifiable statistically. I therefore don't think as a team we will miss him as much as some seem to think. What I do think however is that reportedly he paid his own expenses when on trial, cost us nothing, made us some money in the loan/transfer department, and, as mentioned, gave us some excitement. For these reasons I really hope when he returns he gets a good reception from the valley faithful. You can't blame him for wanting to leave us for more money and a club with better prospects at present.
i don’t know what is more dumb; that Scott/Methven failed to negotiate a no-play clause for this one game; or that I am going to pay good money to watch this car-crash in person.
I'd be relishing running at Watson and Jones too, especially when he beats them, looks up and sees a panicked AMB in goal, desperately squinting through his Zorro mask
If he's playing on the left wing then our defenders need to keep him there & make him cross with his left .....just dont let him cut inside onto his right.
Assuming he will be getting booed due to the refusing to play rumours, either way he is not our player now so f*** him, hope we kick him all over the pitch.
Cannot beat some good honest football bitterness. 😀
If he's playing on the left wing then our defenders need to keep him there & make him cross with his left .....just dont let him cut inside onto his right.
He has also got that little get to the by-line and dinked left footed ball towards the penalty spot down pretty well as well.
And considering it feels like most of our goals for the last couple of years have come from sideways balls into that area from the edge of the box - I'm not feeling confident.
Good thing about playing 5 at the back is at least we can keep one wing-back deep and then try and overload that massive space CBT tends to leave through our midfield and probably May.
Hope we kick him off the park, what he did was as bad as Taylor., Parker etc.
Have i missed something? Did CBT refuse to play?
Probably more likely the club didn’t let him play otherwise what use would it be if he got injured and the left on a free…Charlie boy loves to spin the narrative
If he's playing on the left wing then our defenders need to keep him there & make him cross with his left .....just dont let him cut inside onto his right.
Hope we kick him off the park, what he did was as bad as Taylor., Parker etc.
Absolute nonsense. No comparison at all. He bettered himself , and good luck to him , without refusing to play unlike the other two rats.
Yeah sounds like he wanted to go Derby over the summer period but it didn’t happen. After that he knuckled down got himself as fit as he has ever been, and improved as footballer because of it.
Hope we kick him off the park, what he did was as bad as Taylor., Parker etc.
Have i missed something? Did CBT refuse to play?
Probably more likely the club didn’t let him play otherwise what use would it be if he got injured and the left on a free…Charlie boy loves to spin the narrative
Exactly, while completely failing to spot the PR car crash that he would be due back here first game after the window closes,and persuading Derby not to play him.
Fun fact. Everyone in advertising thinks PR people are the biggest bunch of wankers in the communications sector. ( yes I’m aware that the general public think we are all the same wankers🤣)
So is there not a league rules that a player who is on loan cannot play against their parent club in a competitive game ?
Seems a bit open to corruption otherwise. We have sent agent CBT in to score three own goals …….
According to Richard Cawley the deal is “essentially” a transfer not a loan. I have no idea what he means by that but it stinks of clubs getting round regulations.
Naturally we have bent over backwards to help Derby as much as possible including letting him play against us just two weeks after he has gone.
Charlie Methven is “one of the top 10 PR people in the country”
So is there not a league rules that a player who is on loan cannot play against their parent club in a competitive game ?
Seems a bit open to corruption otherwise. We have sent agent CBT in to score three own goals …….
According to Richard Cawley the deal is “essentially” a transfer not a loan. I have no idea what he means by that but it stinks of clubs getting round regulations.
Naturally we have bent over backwards to help Derby as much as possible including letting him play against us just two weeks after he has gone.
Charlie Methven is “one of the top 10 PR people in the country”
If we still hold his player registration he’s our player isn’t he - which makes it a loan.
Can’t believe we have done this - screams of incompetence
So is there not a league rules that a player who is on loan cannot play against their parent club in a competitive game ?
Seems a bit open to corruption otherwise. We have sent agent CBT in to score three own goals …….
According to Richard Cawley the deal is “essentially” a transfer not a loan. I have no idea what he means by that but it stinks of clubs getting round regulations.
Naturally we have bent over backwards to help Derby as much as possible including letting him play against us just two weeks after he has gone.
Charlie Methven is “one of the top 10 PR people in the country”
If we still hold his player registration he’s our player isn’t he - which makes it a loan.
Can’t believe we have done this - screams of incompetence
I’ve sent him a DM via Linked In. Who knows whether I wiĺ get a reply…
From what I understand from the Derby end essentially they have an approved budget from the EFL regarding how much they can spend on transfer fees and a separate budget for loans. They couldn't sign CBT on a permanent without selling either Eiran Cashin or Max Bird so they've signed CBT on loan with a large fee and then that just gets made permanent in the summer.
So is there not a league rules that a player who is on loan cannot play against their parent club in a competitive game ?
Seems a bit open to corruption otherwise. We have sent agent CBT in to score three own goals …….
According to Richard Cawley the deal is “essentially” a transfer not a loan. I have no idea what he means by that but it stinks of clubs getting round regulations.
Naturally we have bent over backwards to help Derby as much as possible including letting him play against us just two weeks after he has gone.
Charlie Methven is “one of the top 10 PR people in the country”
If we still hold his player registration he’s our player isn’t he - which makes it a loan.
Can’t believe we have done this - screams of incompetence
I’ve sent him a DM via Linked In. Who knows whether I wiĺ get a reply…
Think this is the regulation
During the period of any Temporary Loan Transfer, a Player shall not play against his Transferor Club without the prior written permission of the Transferor Club (which, if given, must be indicated on the appropriate Temporary Loan Transfer form).
So if he is playing we have given our permission for it to happen.
As I recall something similar happened before with Luke Varney. By coincidence the club involved was also Derby county.Varney came back to The Valley, playing against us whilst on loan in a deal that would become permanent in the January. I think he may have assisted a goal. Derby won of course.
We were in a real mess at the time on and off the field and I remember feeling it was a real kick in the bollocks for the fans for the sake of a few extra quid. We got relegated later that season....
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What I do think however is that reportedly he paid his own expenses when on trial, cost us nothing, made us some money in the loan/transfer department, and, as mentioned, gave us some excitement. For these reasons I really hope when he returns he gets a good reception from the valley faithful. You can't blame him for wanting to leave us for more money and a club with better prospects at present.
i don’t know what is more dumb; that Scott/Methven failed to negotiate a no-play clause for this one game; or that I am going to pay good money to watch this car-crash in person.
Cannot beat some good honest football bitterness. 😀
And considering it feels like most of our goals for the last couple of years have come from sideways balls into that area from the edge of the box - I'm not feeling confident.
Good thing about playing 5 at the back is at least we can keep one wing-back deep and then try and overload that massive space CBT tends to leave through our midfield and probably May.
Got it
He is in credit for me.
Fun fact. Everyone in advertising thinks PR people are the biggest bunch of wankers in the communications sector. ( yes I’m aware that the general public think we are all the same wankers🤣)
We were in a real mess at the time on and off the field and I remember feeling it was a real kick in the bollocks for the fans for the sake of a few extra quid. We got relegated later that season....
All for a few more pennies I would assume.
A needless situation that will create a toxic atmosphere in The Valley if he rips our defence apart.
will he score- no
will he assist - maybe
will he get subbed -yes if he starts
are we shit - yes