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Charlie Kirk (p67 - released by Crewe)

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  • As soon as Blackpool pegged them back, you knew without even watching the game that they’d be happy with a point. It was unlikely they made any attacking subs while they still had points in the bag.
  • If you look at our most successful transfers over the last few years, there's an overepresentation of young hungry players from London based non league teams. It seems odd that we're not concentrating our limited resources on those kind of players given how spectacularly the Aribo and Lookman punts paid off (or should have paid off).
    Mason Burstow 
  • Got 25 minutes off the bench in Blackpool’s 3-1 home win over Bristol City.
  • edited February 2022
    No.27 for Blackpool - Botched his first cross a little, nice weight on the second attempt

    Shows more for them in a few clips than he ever did for us, unlucky not to score... Says a lot at the moment

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVIjuRDl4Zw
  • No.27 for Blackpool - Botched his first cross a little, nice weight on the second attempt

    Shows more for them in a few clips than he ever did for us, unlucky not to score... Says a lot at the moment

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVIjuRDl4Zw
    Better coaching?
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Croydon said:
    No.27 for Blackpool - Botched his first cross a little, nice weight on the second attempt

    Shows more for them in a few clips than he ever did for us, unlucky not to score... Says a lot at the moment

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVIjuRDl4Zw
    Better coaching?
    Better coaching, better game plans, better players around him, feels more settled in the north, just a one off good performance.

    Could be a combination of many things. However it should never surprise me, but do find it funny how quick certain sections of our fan base were to write him off. 
    Fans writing him off, or not, is irrelevant.  There are still people that think Ronnie will come good.

    What is relevant is the manager felt he was unselectable, for what ever reason.

    Sometimes, and I include myself in this, we have to remember that our opinions are just that and actually have no influence on team selection or transfers.  So and so is dog shit, we should never have sold him, i can't believe he is picked over him.  They make the forum go round, as they do post match chat in the pub or in the car after the game.

    They don't really matter. 
    I do agree with that part for sure. Whether fans thought he was crap, or deserved more of a chance, it was clear he was not part of JJ’s plan - I assume a big reason for that was formation wise, but there could be many others.


  • It's unfortunate with Kirk really. Until the recent re-collapse Jackson had managed to invigorate a few players. Dobson, Clare, DJ, Washington Morgan, they've all benefited from the initial bounce of Jackson coming in and Adkins going out. Unfortunately Jackson's desire to play this formation meant there wasn't an obvious spot for Kirk in the team and he didn't look wonderful at CM or WB. Not that he got given much time there mind, but imagine if a manager had come in who could make the most of a creative winger, we might have seen a very different Charlie Kirk
  • edited February 2022
    Back on the bench tonight, with Blackpool at Queens Park Rangers

    Game is on the red button (Sky Sports), and will be easy to find a stream
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  • Well wouldn’t you know, he’s getting rave reviews! Ffs
  • robroy said:
    Well wouldn’t you know, he’s getting rave reviews! Ffs
    Find it strange how he's getting sporadic minutes actually

    Only been involved in three games, two of those he's started, and in both those games he's got an assist.
  • His assist for the goal can be seen at the very beginning... Peach of a cross. Swansea on the other hand - Straight out of the "How to Defend Set Pieces the Charlton way" available NOW in all bookshops

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNYEqHYDsIw
  • Can't do it here, but can do it a league above at another club. 

    Something is really going wrong behind the scenes. When's the last time we've coached up a player? Probably a good 3/4 years ago under Bowyer. 
  • if it wasnt Charlton it would be ironic...
  • Can't do it here, but can do it a league above at another club. 

    Something is really going wrong behind the scenes. When's the last time we've coached up a player? Probably a good 3/4 years ago under Bowyer. 
    He’s probably much happier back up north. Some players never settle in another part of the country.

    The way we were playing as a team didn’t help. We weren’t doing anything well under Adkins, we couldn’t defend well, press or keep possession. We didn’t create enough chances. A lot like the way we’re playing now.

    Jackson then took over and played a system Kirk was never going to fit into.
  • Has only featured 4 times for Blackpool, doubt they'll end up buying him off us
  • PWADDICK said:
    Has only featured 4 times for Blackpool, doubt they'll end up buying him off us
    They'll probably send him back and re-negotiate the transfer fee

    Asked on the Blackpool twitter account last night - One fan replied saying he's excellent at passing the ball, but his lack of pace lets him down, sounded like he wouldn't be unhappy if they signed him.
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  • Leuth said:
    Look at DJ - one of Swindon's best attacking talents in years, now a competent full-back. Look at CBT - forced to defend with an injury for 20 minutes, broken after being asked to run the entire length of the pitch every time we get the ball. Now look at Kirk, a man with less appetite for defending than even these wingers, and ask yourself why you ever thought he stood a chance under Jackson
    What's worse than that is we tried to sign him under Bowyer.  Can you imagine! 
  • An assist for Kirk, against Bowyer's Brum.
  • I'd be fine with minimising the financial loss and accepting what Blackpool offer.

    Unless we're playing a system where he has a full-back behind him, he just doesn't bring enough. It's a shame, but I can't see him back with us next season.
  • th0rryy said:
    I'd be fine with minimising the financial loss and accepting what Blackpool offer.

    Unless we're playing a system where he has a full-back behind him, he just doesn't bring enough. It's a shame, but I can't see him back with us next season.
    A proper , attacking full back behind him, not Purrington
  • Outstanding game today, albeit against a poor Brum. Great delivery of a corner/cross. 
    Can we keep him please ?
  • Outstanding game today, albeit against a poor Brum. Great delivery of a corner/cross. 
    Can we keep him please ?
    Still baffled how he's in and out of the team so often, despite getting his third or fourth assist today since joining
  • Outstanding game today, albeit against a poor Brum. Great delivery of a corner/cross. 
    Can we keep him please ?
    Does he want to move back down south? Do Blackpool want him? Where does he fit into our system? I struggle to see any outcome other than him signing for Blackpool or another club in the north west.
  • Another player, like Fraser who thrives outside of Charlton. Cursed club, we just aren’t allowed any players with gifted technical abilities in recent years. Limited to work horses with a pair of sponge feet.  

    It is absolutely a mismanagement issue, that’s Jaiyesimi, Fraser and Kirk all been played in the wrong positions this season. They’re all clearly very talented players and we need the right coaching team to get the best out of them 
    Problem of being at Charlton is that if you are a creative player, you need to do 2/3 people's job else just receive criticism and get moved on. 
  • Another player, like Fraser who thrives outside of Charlton. Cursed club, we just aren’t allowed any players with gifted technical abilities in recent years. Limited to work horses with a pair of sponge feet.  

    It is absolutely a mismanagement issue, that’s Jaiyesimi, Fraser and Kirk all been played in the wrong positions this season. They’re all clearly very talented players and we need the right coaching team to get the best out of them 
    We’ve not played Fraser out of position? Or are you referring to Ipswich playing him on the wing?
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