anything less than promotion is failure We've been relegated in to this division 6 times taking 2, 3, 1, 3, 3 seasons to get out of it , this is our 5th consecutive shit house excuse of season in this division , pathetic
“Failure” to me implies that the strategy you’re using is failed and you rip it up to try something entirely different next time.
I’ll be disappointed if we don’t get promoted but as long as there’s positive signs - more clean sheets, a team that the fans can connect with, a platform to continue progressing then I think just missing out with the promise that next year will be the year, that would mean sticking with it.
Wrexham got a shock coming to them if they think league one going to be easy .. can see them bottom half
Don’t underestimate momentum. They have it and we’ve not had any for years.
They'll finish above us.
Based on current evidence, they really shouldn't. They will probably survive quite comfortably, probably somewhere in the middle of the table, but we can and should (at the very least) be part of the play-off chasing group.
Momentum is great but if they lose it (and they could, as their supposed large budget hasn't translated into a particularly intimidating squad at this level) the wheels could come off big time.
We finished 16th, they comfortably got promoted. We'll see, I feel the gap in the bottom two divisions is not so big.
The gap between 16th and top 6 isn’t that big either if you make the right signings and changes off the pitch.
Whether we’ll do enough to be challenging for promotion we’ll see, but we should have a much better season than last year.
Fair comment actually. Am still very much on the dubious side though.
This George Dobson thread is getting a bit weird now, he's gone and is history now, and plays for the opposition... maybe time to close and move on...🤦♂️
This George Dobson thread is getting a bit weird now, he's gone and is history now, and plays for the opposition... maybe time to close and move on...🤦♂️
This George Dobson thread is getting a bit weird now, he's gone and is history now, and plays for the opposition... maybe time to close and move on...🤦♂️
Yeah but don't you really hope we stuff Wrexham?
No more than anyone else mate, I hope we stuff 'em all...
This George Dobson thread is getting a bit weird now, he's gone and is history now, and plays for the opposition... maybe time to close and move on...🤦♂️
Going to be the same with May, someone posting/bumping the thread every time he scores a goal (which will be a lot).
This George Dobson thread is getting a bit weird now, he's gone and is history now, and plays for the opposition... maybe time to close and move on...🤦♂️
Going to be the same with May, someone posting/bumping the thread every time he scores a goal (which will be a lot).
Except with Dobson it's every time he makes a slide tackle
This George Dobson thread is getting a bit weird now, he's gone and is history now, and plays for the opposition... maybe time to close and move on...🤦♂️
We do this quite regularly with players that leave.
Yann thread went on for about 5 years after he left. Likewise with Jackson as a manager etc.
This George Dobson thread is getting a bit weird now, he's gone and is history now, and plays for the opposition... maybe time to close and move on...🤦♂️
We do this quite regularly with players that leave.
Yann thread went on for about 5 years after he left. Likewise with Jackson as a manager etc.
If you're not interested don't bother opening it?
I would like to see more discussions about David Davis and his career changing move to Kidderminster Harriers.
I mean seriously , how fucking difficult is it ? I don't want to read about the ULEZ ,some wanky musician thread or gardening so amazingly I don't go on those threads ... fucking freak show
This George Dobson thread is getting a bit weird now, he's gone and is history now, and plays for the opposition... maybe time to close and move on...🤦♂️
We do this quite regularly with players that leave.
Yann thread went on for about 5 years after he left. Likewise with Jackson as a manager etc.
If you're not interested don't bother opening it?
I would like to see more discussions about David Davis and his career changing move to Kidderminster Harriers.
Open a thread.
People are even discussing Sean Clare, it's hardly a pile on of current club decisions. It's just people taking an interest in how ex-players are getting on.
Or should we close the Gomez, Lookman, Konsa threads that pop up occasionally too?
This George Dobson thread is getting a bit weird now, he's gone and is history now, and plays for the opposition... maybe time to close and move on...🤦♂️
Going to be the same with May, someone posting/bumping the thread every time he scores a goal (which will be a lot).
Except with Dobson it's every time he makes a slide tackle
Back in early May I contacted a well-respected journo I'd got to know thanks to the Dossier project, to ask him if it would be worth sniffing around the Dobbo story (and Charlton TV, which I'll deal with on that thread). He didn't answer straight away and then I disengaged for the summer from social media - I'd used DM's on the Twitter - I only discovered today that he had done exactly that, albeit basically concluding "nothing to see here". Yet he was able to get some clarity on the wages issue and confirm the timelines of who said what when, so I think it's useful. And of course he replied a month before the final twist. Here verbatim is what he said:
"Bright lad, comes from money. (Contract..) Got extended last season, was on £3.5k a week. Club offered him £4.5k last autumn. He wanted £6k. His agent found him that money at the top-flight club in Hungary. They're Orban's team, so they've got a bit of cash. He told Charlton he'd stay if they met him halfway. Charlton said 'sit tight, wait to see what the new manager thinks'. He ignores the advice and signs a pre-contract, as is his right. 3yr deal, with a house, at £6k. Great deal for him. The Hungarian club want him to join in Jan, as they're pushing for Europe, but Jones says no. That upset Dobson but he knuckled down and played out the rest of the season, doing well. Jones, as the club predicted, did like Dobson and would prefer him to stay. But it's too late. Dobson signed the pre-contract. Charlton would never have matched the £6k, either. Stuff like this happens at every club, every summer."
This George Dobson thread is getting a bit weird now, he's gone and is history now, and plays for the opposition... maybe time to close and move on...🤦♂️
Going to be the same with May, someone posting/bumping the thread every time he scores a goal (which will be a lot).
Except with Dobson it's every time he makes a slide tackle
given that the frenzy was after 3 mins - surely he didn't get asked to remove him then?
Back in early May I contacted a well-respected journo I'd got to know thanks to the Dossier project, to ask him if it would be worth sniffing around the Dobbo story (and Charlton TV, which I'll deal with on that thread). He didn't answer straight away and then I disengaged for the summer from social media - I'd used DM's on the Twitter - I only discovered today that he had done exactly that, albeit basically concluding "nothing to see here". Yet he was able to get some clarity on the wages issue and confirm the timelines of who said what when, so I think it's useful. And of course he replied a month before the final twist. Here verbatim is what he said:
"Bright lad, comes from money. (Contract..) Got extended last season, was on £3.5k a week. Club offered him £4.5k last autumn. He wanted £6k. His agent found him that money at the top-flight club in Hungary. They're Orban's team, so they've got a bit of cash. He told Charlton he'd stay if they met him halfway. Charlton said 'sit tight, wait to see what the new manager thinks'. He ignores the advice and signs a pre-contract, as is his right. 3yr deal, with a house, at £6k. Great deal for him. The Hungarian club want him to join in Jan, as they're pushing for Europe, but Jones says no. That upset Dobson but he knuckled down and played out the rest of the season, doing well. Jones, as the club predicted, did like Dobson and would prefer him to stay. But it's too late. Dobson signed the pre-contract. Charlton would never have matched the £6k, either. Stuff like this happens at every club, every summer."
So neither the club nor his agent are the devils many portrayed them to be.
This George Dobson thread is getting a bit weird now, he's gone and is history now, and plays for the opposition... maybe time to close and move on...🤦♂️
Going to be the same with May, someone posting/bumping the thread every time he scores a goal (which will be a lot).
Except with Dobson it's every time he makes a slide tackle
Looks like he was woofing down the goulash’s the short time he was in Hungary judging by that photo
Back in early May I contacted a well-respected journo I'd got to know thanks to the Dossier project, to ask him if it would be worth sniffing around the Dobbo story (and Charlton TV, which I'll deal with on that thread). He didn't answer straight away and then I disengaged for the summer from social media - I'd used DM's on the Twitter - I only discovered today that he had done exactly that, albeit basically concluding "nothing to see here". Yet he was able to get some clarity on the wages issue and confirm the timelines of who said what when, so I think it's useful. And of course he replied a month before the final twist. Here verbatim is what he said:
"Bright lad, comes from money. (Contract..) Got extended last season, was on £3.5k a week. Club offered him £4.5k last autumn. He wanted £6k. His agent found him that money at the top-flight club in Hungary. They're Orban's team, so they've got a bit of cash. He told Charlton he'd stay if they met him halfway. Charlton said 'sit tight, wait to see what the new manager thinks'. He ignores the advice and signs a pre-contract, as is his right. 3yr deal, with a house, at £6k. Great deal for him. The Hungarian club want him to join in Jan, as they're pushing for Europe, but Jones says no. That upset Dobson but he knuckled down and played out the rest of the season, doing well. Jones, as the club predicted, did like Dobson and would prefer him to stay. But it's too late. Dobson signed the pre-contract. Charlton would never have matched the £6k, either. Stuff like this happens at every club, every summer."
So neither the club nor his agent are the devils many portrayed them to be.
The journalist, who covers big global stories, and understandably needed to get an assessment of Dobbo the player before enquiring, has not dwelled on why Dobbo “ignored the advice”, and he wrote this on May 25th, a full month before Dobbo suddenly decided that perhaps Hungary wasnt the ideal place to drag his young family off to. I think it shows the club tried to do the best they could at an already chaotic time. They can still be criticised for not securing Dobbo last summer - Curbs was banging on about it all through the early season - but they hadnt got the right manager in place then.
The agent is not a devil, simply a routine greedy **** whose only interest is a deal and what cut he can make from it. I’d be surprised if he’d ever heard of Fehervar. As we now know, the club were acting on a tip from a Hungarian scout working at Brentford.
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...We're on the way up!
I’ll be disappointed if we don’t get promoted but as long as there’s positive signs - more clean sheets, a team that the fans can connect with, a platform to continue progressing then I think just missing out with the promise that next year will be the year, that would mean sticking with it.
Do I think they will be relegated - No
Do I think they will be promoted - No
Their current squad at best is mid to lower end League 1. I’ve been far more impressed with the Charlton owners summer dealings that’s for sure.
Am still very much on the dubious side though.
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Yann thread went on for about 5 years after he left. Likewise with Jackson as a manager etc.
If you're not interested don't bother opening it?
I don't want to read about the ULEZ ,some wanky musician thread or gardening so amazingly I don't go on those threads ... fucking freak show
People are even discussing Sean Clare, it's hardly a pile on of current club decisions. It's just people taking an interest in how ex-players are getting on.
Or should we close the Gomez, Lookman, Konsa threads that pop up occasionally too?
"Bright lad, comes from money. (Contract..) Got extended last season, was on £3.5k a week. Club offered him £4.5k last autumn. He wanted £6k. His agent found him that money at the top-flight club in Hungary. They're Orban's team, so they've got a bit of cash. He told Charlton he'd stay if they met him halfway. Charlton said 'sit tight, wait to see what the new manager thinks'. He ignores the advice and signs a pre-contract, as is his right. 3yr deal, with a house, at £6k. Great deal for him. The Hungarian club want him to join in Jan, as they're pushing for Europe, but Jones says no. That upset Dobson but he knuckled down and played out the rest of the season, doing well. Jones, as the club predicted, did like Dobson and would prefer him to stay. But it's too late. Dobson signed the pre-contract. Charlton would never have matched the £6k, either. Stuff like this happens at every club, every summer."