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4-4-2, 4-5-1 and Andy Reid

edited July 2007 in General Charlton
What do you think we will be playing next season ?

Pardew appears to have a preference for 442, but i think the real problem here will prove to be Andy Reid.

Andy is being plugged as one of our key players for next season, but i just can't see how he is going to fit in properly. Jerome picks himself on the left, he is a decent prem standard player, so that pushes Andy inside more. But i just can't see him gaining the required fitness necessary to play centre mid in the prem. We won't be able to play through the midfield as much as you can in the prem, centre mid is a lot of up and down running and i'm not sure he's got the engine or the combatative nature needed for the centre of the park.

You could play him in a centre three, sitting in front of two workers, but will we want only one up front ?

Comments

  • I doubt Pards has been acquiring all these strikers to go one up front.
    Sadly I don't think Reid figures as highly in Pards' plans as he did in many of ours.
  • Not sure if I agree with you on this mate.

    Reid when relatively fit last season was pretty much running our midfield single handedly either from the centre or out wide. If anyone will be the odd one out next season it will be Thomas, has been unable to beat a player for over a year, one trick pony who checks back to cross Everytime, a one decent game in seven player at best ala West Ham. Reid was far more consistent & can play both positions. My view of course...
  • That is my major problem with Reid, you have summed it up perfectly.

    Unless we play him on the left and JT on the right?

    Like Murphy, he only looks good in a 3 man central midfield. But surely we have to start with Varney and Iwelumo/Dickson.
  • Mine too Cricket.
  • I reckon 442, Holland and Reid in the middle. wingers etc..
  • My view is that Reid can only play in the middle. With a Faye/Morris/Sinclair/Mullins/A.N. Other alongside him he will be class above IMHO
  • [cite]Posted By: Ketman[/cite]Not sure if I agree with you on this mate.

    Reid when relatively fit last season was pretty much running our midfield single handedly either from the centre or out wide. If anyone will be the odd one out next season it will be Thomas, has been unable to beat a player for over a year, one trick pony who checks back to cross Everytime, a one decent game in seven player at best ala West Ham. Reid was far more consistent & can play both positions. My view of course...

    the only problem is that Reid only did well under Dowie and only played one game under Pards. If we get Mullins i'd like to see JT, Mullins, Reid and Ambrose, with Sam, Holland, Walton and Christensen waiting for any slip ups.
  • Reid is class on the ball, spots a good pass, has a good shot and set piece delivery.

    On his day will be a class above some Barnsley clogger.

    However, he has no pace or central midfield engine, therefore needs someone else to do his running and give him the ball.

    Also, I found that his lack of a right foot meant that he was always having to look for the left footed pass which often meant turning into danger.

    I hope Pards gets the best out of him in the best position because he is vital for next season.
  • This season is going to make or break him as a central midfielder. I we can make a CM duo of Reid and Holland/Walton/whoever work then we're going to bulldoze this league and we'll have a £10m+ player to build our future around. If not then i don't think the futures all that rosy for club or player.

    S.
  • [cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]My view is that Reid can only play in the middle. With a Faye/Morris/Sinclair/Mullins/A.N. Other alongside him he will be class above IMHO

    Been on holiday so missed quite a bit. Who is Sinclair and have we signed Mullins?
    I agree that Reid should only play in the middle and i think he'll be class at this level. Problem is obviously can he play 40 odd matches in a season though.
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  • [cite]Posted By: Chris_from_Sidcup[/cite]
    [cite]Posted By: Henry Irving[/cite]My view is that Reid can only play in the middle. With a Faye/Morris/Sinclair/Mullins/A.N. Other alongside him he will be class above IMHO

    Been on holiday so missed quite a bit. Who is Sinclair and have we signed Mullins?
    I agree that Reid should only play in the middle and i think he'll be class at this level. Problem is obviously can he play 40 odd matches in a season though.

    Dean Sinclair played v Welling. On trial from Barnet. Not signed Mullins.
  • I agree Reid is class, and much more effective/ dangerous in the middle than out wide.

    My problem is who plays alongside? Holland is not the right balance - we still need the centre mid engine/ runner/ tackler or we'll be sunk in this league.
  • If reid stays fit he pisses this league wherever he plays that includes centre back and in goal.
  • My fear is that in the hussle and bustle of this league, for Reid to be truely effective you won't need one player to 'do his running', but two.

    You could get around this like we did with Claus Jensen, you sacrifice a bit of width on one side and play someone like Graham Stuart a bit more narrow. But with the choice of the wide ones being Thomas, Ambrose or Christensen, i can't see any of them playing a more narrow role successfully.

    For Reid to work effectively, it will either be at Thomas' expense (and i think Pards will prefer Thomas' greater ability to get up and down), on in the middle of a three.
  • it a conundrum I am glad I don't have.

    Pards has got a great dilemna.

    Maybe he'll play Reid central against the more footballing sides in the division and wide agaisnt the cloggers.

    Not sure.
  • Give him an extra pie with every meal and play him in goal, problem solved.
  • tbf to Reid, he's played in this Division before, and exceptionally well at that for Forest
  • to be fair to pardew, its not like he's seen a lot of reid in action though if you've built up your forward line then you must be fairly confident you've got the players on board to supply them from all angles and reid fits that role perfectly...if he remains fit then he's probably going to be the first name on the teamsheet each week...
  • I know you can't guage a lot from Welling but what type of midfielder is Sinclair?

    I had to work late so missed the match.
  • Sinclair is not Championship standard. If Pardew sees anything in him, he will be loaned out straight away.
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  • Didn't he once score against Man Utd in the cup?
  • [cite]Posted By: AFKA Bartram[/cite]Sinclair is not Championship standard. If Pardew sees anything in him, he will be loaned out straight away.

    That's a touch harsh AFKA, by that reckoning we'd do the same to McLeod if we signed him. Sinclair is fancied by quite a few CCC teams and i would only be unhappy if he was the only midfielder signed.
  • A couple of years ago Darren Bent was not considered Prem standard.
  • [cite]Posted By: Rothko[/cite]tbf to Reid, he's played in this Division before, and exceptionally well at that for Forest

    people forget that reid has played in this division probably the most out of his career, i think we will have no probs from fitness wise, and will/can play where ever pards wants/tels him to. Good point well made rothko doooooooooooood
  • [cite]Posted By: Oggy Red[/cite]A couple of years ago Darren Bent was not considered Prem standard.

    Darren Bent was scoring goals in the Championship, this lad has been doing little more than ok in the Conference from what i understand. Its a massive jump that would take time.
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