Very good window, Tom Lowery would have made it perfect being greedy, but should have enough to get us to January and I’m sure based on our league position that Thomas and the team will know what to do.
Good window, good squad. congrats Recruitment team, NA and TS. Automatic promotion here we come. COYR
Why is this liked so much? Good window my arse
I think it is has now been a good window. It hadn't been when the season started. We are in the promotion race and anyone that thinks otherwise is simply unhappy for other reasons, nothing to do with Charlton. COYR & thanks to Thomas Sandgaard & the team.
Personally I think this view is massively skewed by us winning on Sat. Suspect you (and others) would be saying very different had we played bad on Sat and lost.
But we didn't play bad or lose on Saturday, did we?
You could equally say that peoples views had been skewed onto a downer because we hadn't played well or won up until then.
Both statements have credibility, which is why its important to take a balanced view.
A few weeks back the general consensus that we were "5 or 6 bodies short". I don't think anyone was arguing against that.
We've now signed 5 or 6 extra bodies and whilst we can all debate about the positions or the quality of the individuals, there's surely no argument that both the first XI and the squad as a whole are stronger now than they were a couple of weeks ago.
So on that respect it's been a "good" window, and certainly not the total disaster some of the usual suspects were predicting (and possibly even hoping for, bizarrely!)
Fair point. Had a long day and probably chatting shite. Personally I’m cautiously happy with the signings, but don’t think you can ever say someone is a good or bad signing until seeing some proof one way or another.
Arter has real quality and I think he will really want to show everyone he has got it. To be prepared to drop to League One says he wants to play and get back to a good level of form.
Lavelle I know nothing about. However, signing a captain from another team in our league, where reports are he’s strong and can play a bit, he’s at a good age and should be coachable, I’d take that. Good luck to him.
Leko is the wildcard we knew about before. If he can produce the moments of magic he did in The Championship, he’ll be class for us in League One. I actually think he was a big factor in us eventually being relegated that season. He never got replaced, and neither did Gallagher. But Leko done well for us and should link up nicely with Stockley. Unfinished business that’s for sure. Cheers Bow.
My main concern is now left back. It’s putting huge pressure on Purrington to be fit and firing quickly. To. It being in a left back is poor to be honest. Not replacing Aneke is shocking but don’t want to cover that now as Leko signing slightly papers over the cracks. Not signing an attacking left back is far, far from ideal. I now hope that there is a left back that is a free agent that can come in and do a good job for us because if we want to get the best out of players like Kirk, we need to allow these players the tools and platform to perform. I actually think Purrington and Kirk could work well. But it’s not good going into the season until January with only Purrington who is not yet fit.
Overall, I think we have got in some very good players over the last 10-14 days. We are still short and some bits do concern me, but the quality of player coming in recently seen far stronger than the quality in the early to middle part of the window.
I know you don’t want to go over it, but out of interest could you think of one single player available that would replace Aneke’s goals?
Aneke was a bit of enigma, I’m not sure we’ll ever again see a player be so dangerous from the bench. I think we’ve replaced his 15 goals with the signings of Kirk, Lee and Leko.
There's no guarantee that Aneke would've replaced Aneke's goals considering that was his first ever double-digit season above League Two...
On the left back front, Denver Hume still hasn’t signed a contract with Sunderland so would be available on a free. Better going forward than he is defending.
23 players who would count for the squad cap rules. Could have an effect on whether we will dip into the free agent market. Dempsey, Schwartz and JFC are the obvious ones who may not be included.
I've not done the maths in terms of squad numbers, but with our 3 signings today all being over 21, we must be tight. I'd be amazed if we register Dempsey as part of our squad, and will we have to leave JFC out? Especially if we still want to keep open the free agent option?
That's why I'm really surprised we haven't loaned a young PL LB, as not only would it fill a squad gap, it would be outside the squad limit too.
I've not done the maths in terms of squad numbers, but with our 3 signings today all being over 21, we must be tight. I'd be amazed if we register Dempsey as part of our squad, and will we have to leave JFC out? Especially if we still want to keep open the free agent option?
That's why I'm really surprised we haven't loaned a young PL LB, as not only would it fill a squad gap, it would be outside the squad limit too.
In my opinion... Great window. Strong team. Spent well over £1,000,000 signing young, talented, motivated players on long term contracts. Also signed players with links to CAFC (Lee, Arter, Leko & Clare) and signed natural leaders and players of the season (Lavelle Kirk & MacG). I also think the temperament of the players we've brought in has been well thought through.
Whats not to like? Yes, we might be a LB or a ST short, but I reckon we might dip into the free transfer market to plug whatever minute holes there might be.
Finally, a sensible window, not one where our sole target is to bring In 'bodies.'
Wow we spent a million. I will go Charlton and support the team as Always but I'm not expecting us to be anywhere near the play-offs. I think this is a below average squad. I hope I am wrong I honestly do. Playing some youngsters through the season will keep me interested and then mount a challenge next season. I'm not in a rush for promotion like others
Don’t get me wrong, the signings of Lee, Leko, and Kirk are all excellent, I mean really strong business for League One.
I’m not saying we will find a player quite like Aneke as he has so much to his game. My point was that we wanted both Aneke and Stockley, we only have one. We seem to have drafted in Davison as the replacement role of Aneke, in the sense of being a striker who will play that number 9 position. The difference is we will lose so much quality and see such a difference if we lose Stockley. I think Davison is alright, but he’s not at the level of striker I hoped we would bring in to replace Aneke if Stockley was unavailable.
We have some really good attacking players not and actually quite a bit of pace which we seriously lacked a couple of weeks ago. I think there will definitely be goals in this team now. The only thing it does is put pressure on players like Stockley and Purrington to stay and get fit, respectively.
In my opinion... Great window. Strong team. Spent well over £1,000,000 signing young, talented, motivated players on long term contracts. Also signed players with links to CAFC (Lee, Arter, Leko & Clare) and signed natural leaders and players of the season (Lavelle Kirk & MacG). I also think the temperament of the players we've brought in has been well thought through.
Whats not to like? Yes, we might be a LB or a ST short, but I reckon we might dip into the free transfer market to plug whatever minute holes there might be.
Finally, a sensible window, not one where our sole target is to bring In 'bodies.'
Can I just add... was a great window, apart the bed wetting from grown adults. I think, as is best in many walks of life, to leave it to the professionals. People tagging TS on twitter saying "sign Tucker" etc etc - I bet no Charlton fan had heard of Lavelle before today. Let them do their jobs and have some patience. COYA!
So initial reactions, of the three today (Arter, Lavelle, Leko), what one are you most pleased about?
Lavelle, think he'll be a starter. Both Arter & Leco come with warnings from fans. Arter- fans reckon his legs have gone. Leco - I believe has not scored at Brum, didn't he suffer an ACL injury? Could slow him down. I'd be satisfied if one was a success.
Don’t get me wrong, the signings of Lee, Leko, and Kirk are all excellent, I mean really strong business for League One.
I’m not saying we will find a player quite like Aneke as he has so much to his game. My point was that we wanted both Aneke and Stockley, we only have one. We seem to have drafted in Davison as the replacement role of Aneke, in the sense of being a striker who will play that number 9 position. The difference is we will lose so much quality and see such a difference if we lose Stockley. I think Davison is alright, but he’s not at the level of striker I hoped we would bring in to replace Aneke if Stockley was unavailable.
We have some really good attacking players not and actually quite a bit of pace which we seriously lacked a couple of weeks ago. I think there will definitely be goals in this team now. The only thing it does is put pressure on players like Stockley and Purrington to stay and get fit, respectively.
But why can't we play Leko or Washington up top if Stockley is unavailable? Yes can't hold the ball up the same way but we'd be forced to get the ball down and play some decent football. Plenty of people out there been saying that's exactly what they want us to do anyway.
With the amount of wide players we have now the 4-4-2 was a one off. In every match I can see the likes of Gilbert, DJ, Leko and CBT all playing a part as the wide men to Stockley down the middle. Who starts and who comes off the bench will depend on if we have 3 games in a week. Washington and Davidson will be the potential cover for Jayden as the central striker role. I feel Burstow will get on the bench and get some minutes on occasions. This is important for his development.
If 4-3-3 Lee will mainly be the attacking midfielder but we have a squad which looks decent for League 1. The LB position looks weak for cover and Aneke hasn't been replaced ( How were we going to replace a player who scored a goal every 100 minutes last season ?)
Lavelle hasn't come to be back up. Inniss will be back up as he can probably only play 20 games max, and young Deji will also get games as back up.
This will be a squad effort as we don't have the X factor players this season unlike our Wembley winning side.
Dempsey won’t be included in the squad registration. It would make no sense. Gilbey is back in training now so even without Forster-Caskey, Dempsey would be behind Arter, Watson, Gilbey, Clare, Dobson, and Morgan, without even including Lee as well. He’s so far down the pecking order.
23 players who would count for the squad cap rules. Could have an effect on whether we will dip into the free agent market. Dempsey, Schwartz and JFC are the obvious ones who may not be included.
Agreed, potentially you could put Watson there too as Arter probably makes him superfluous now.
Jackson's comments re: Schwartz didn't seem to be ruling him out completely but these mysterious "fitness reasons" have certainly been going on for an oddly long time now. Wouldn't be entirely surprised if he was let go to return to his home country/league tbh.
Don’t get me wrong, the signings of Lee, Leko, and Kirk are all excellent, I mean really strong business for League One.
I’m not saying we will find a player quite like Aneke as he has so much to his game. My point was that we wanted both Aneke and Stockley, we only have one. We seem to have drafted in Davison as the replacement role of Aneke, in the sense of being a striker who will play that number 9 position. The difference is we will lose so much quality and see such a difference if we lose Stockley. I think Davison is alright, but he’s not at the level of striker I hoped we would bring in to replace Aneke if Stockley was unavailable.
We have some really good attacking players not and actually quite a bit of pace which we seriously lacked a couple of weeks ago. I think there will definitely be goals in this team now. The only thing it does is put pressure on players like Stockley and Purrington to stay and get fit, respectively.
But why can't we play Leko or Washington up top if Stockley is unavailable? Yes can't hold the ball up the same way but we'd be forced to get the ball down and play some decent football. Plenty of people out there been saying that's exactly what they want us to do anyway.
Our play is so orientated around Stockley that if he’s out for a lengthy period it changes everything. Lego and Wash are ok but neither will score enough goals.
So initial reactions, of the three today (Arter, Lavelle, Leko), what one are you most pleased about?
Lavelle. The right age, a player the club would have liked to keep and someone eager to take the next step upwards in his career. And a position where we badly needed someone.
Arter and Leko have more question marks over them, they're available because they've flopped badly at their current clubs. Which doesn't mean that they can't go and do a great job for us in L1, but it's yet to be seen.
Dempsey won’t be included in the squad registration. It would make no sense. Gilbey is back in training now so even without Forster-Caskey, Dempsey would be behind Arter, Watson, Gilbey, Clare, Dobson, and Morgan, without even including Lee as well. He’s so far down the pecking order.
Agreed, I think Dempsey and JFC will be left out so there would be room for one more if necessary.
From what I've seen Dobson & Clare aren't good enough for a promotion chasing side & Leko is not what's really needed.
What is needed & that we don't currently have is a striker to replace Aneke & to be there if Stockley is out injured for any length of time as well as a left back, although this I expect to be sorted by an out of contract player very soon.
I would also like to see Lavelle start & not be a back up player. Not sure who he will replace but perhaps Innis' injury is worse than thought or isnt recovering well enough after games. Or we play 3 centre halves....
So all in all ok from where we were 2 weeks ago but still not as good as I hoped 2 months ago. Dont think we will get automatics so top 6 has to be the aim. Still think that could be a long shot if Stockley is missing for long periods or Purrington breaks down without a replacement being brought in.
My prediction for the end of the season - between 5th and 8th.
With the amount of wide players we have now the 4-4-2 was a one off. In every match I can see the likes of Gilbert, DJ, Leko and CBT all playing a part as the wide men to Stockley down the middle. Who starts and who comes off the bench will depend on if we have 3 games in a week. Washington and Davidson will be the potential cover for Jayden as the central striker role. I feel Burstow will get on the bench and get some minutes on occasions. This is important for his development.
If 4-3-3 Lee will mainly be the attacking midfielder but we have a squad which looks decent for League 1. The LB position looks weak for cover and Aneke hasn't been replaced ( How were we going to replace a player who scored a goal every 100 minutes last season ?)
Lavelle hasn't come to be back up. Inniss will be back up as he can probably only play 20 games max, and young Deji will also get games as back up.
This will be a squad effort as we don't have the X factor players this season unlike our Wembley winning side.
So initial reactions, of the three today (Arter, Lavelle, Leko), what one are you most pleased about?
Boring answer, but all three about equally, bearing in mind I don’t remember seeing Lavelle playing. He sounds like a great signing though, from what I’ve read.
Don’t get me wrong, the signings of Lee, Leko, and Kirk are all excellent, I mean really strong business for League One.
I’m not saying we will find a player quite like Aneke as he has so much to his game. My point was that we wanted both Aneke and Stockley, we only have one. We seem to have drafted in Davison as the replacement role of Aneke, in the sense of being a striker who will play that number 9 position. The difference is we will lose so much quality and see such a difference if we lose Stockley. I think Davison is alright, but he’s not at the level of striker I hoped we would bring in to replace Aneke if Stockley was unavailable.
We have some really good attacking players not and actually quite a bit of pace which we seriously lacked a couple of weeks ago. I think there will definitely be goals in this team now. The only thing it does is put pressure on players like Stockley and Purrington to stay and get fit, respectively.
I agree with you there.
Another thing to consider is how much budget it would take to accommodate both Stockley and Aneke, particularly when one can’t play 90 minutes. If we’d have kept Aneke, we’d have missed out on some other key additions.
On the whole a very positive window, but I do share your concern about the lack of support for Purrington and Stockley.
Didn’t realise that leko had such good stats in his 21 games. 5 goals and 4 assists. Assuming they get good game time I’d expect us to get a better spread of goals across the team this time. Wonder if they’re going to try and use him like Grant with Taylor or as a proper winger?
Don’t get me wrong, the signings of Lee, Leko, and Kirk are all excellent, I mean really strong business for League One.
I’m not saying we will find a player quite like Aneke as he has so much to his game. My point was that we wanted both Aneke and Stockley, we only have one. We seem to have drafted in Davison as the replacement role of Aneke, in the sense of being a striker who will play that number 9 position. The difference is we will lose so much quality and see such a difference if we lose Stockley. I think Davison is alright, but he’s not at the level of striker I hoped we would bring in to replace Aneke if Stockley was unavailable.
We have some really good attacking players not and actually quite a bit of pace which we seriously lacked a couple of weeks ago. I think there will definitely be goals in this team now. The only thing it does is put pressure on players like Stockley and Purrington to stay and get fit, respectively.
But why can't we play Leko or Washington up top if Stockley is unavailable? Yes can't hold the ball up the same way but we'd be forced to get the ball down and play some decent football. Plenty of people out there been saying that's exactly what they want us to do anyway.
Our play is so orientated around Stockley that if he’s out for a lengthy period it changes everything. Lego and Wash are ok but neither will score enough goals.
Washington has hit double figures in his last 3 seasons in League 1.Our play is orientated around him, but that would have to change. To be honest, I don't think DJ's, Kirk's or Lee's play would be disadvantaged by that either.
In my opinion... Great window. Strong team. Spent well over £1,000,000 signing young, talented, motivated players on long term contracts. Also signed players with links to CAFC (Lee, Arter, Leko & Clare) and signed natural leaders and players of the season (Lavelle Kirk & MacG). I also think the temperament of the players we've brought in has been well thought through.
Whats not to like? Yes, we might be a LB or a ST short, but I reckon we might dip into the free transfer market to plug whatever minute holes there might be.
Finally, a sensible window, not one where our sole target is to bring In 'bodies.'
Wow we spent a million. I will go Charlton and support the team as Always but I'm not expecting us to be anywhere near the play-offs. I think this is a below average squad. I hope I am wrong I honestly do. Playing some youngsters through the season will keep me interested and then mount a challenge next season. I'm not in a rush for promotion like others
I agree re. not rushing - however would you not agree this window is a step in the right direction though, a solid base on which to build?
I've not done the maths in terms of squad numbers, but with our 3 signings today all being over 21, we must be tight. I'd be amazed if we register Dempsey as part of our squad, and will we have to leave JFC out? Especially if we still want to keep open the free agent option?
That's why I'm really surprised we haven't loaned a young PL LB, as not only would it fill a squad gap, it would be outside the squad limit too.
I've not done the maths in terms of squad numbers, but with our 3 signings today all being over 21, we must be tight. I'd be amazed if we register Dempsey as part of our squad, and will we have to leave JFC out? Especially if we still want to keep open the free agent option?
That's why I'm really surprised we haven't loaned a young PL LB, as not only would it fill a squad gap, it would be outside the squad limit too.
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got a really good feeling about Lavelle
23 players who would count for the squad cap rules. Could have an effect on whether we will dip into the free agent market. Dempsey, Schwartz and JFC are the obvious ones who may not be included.
That's why I'm really surprised we haven't loaned a young PL LB, as not only would it fill a squad gap, it would be outside the squad limit too.
I will go Charlton and support the team as Always but I'm not expecting us to be anywhere near the play-offs.
I think this is a below average squad.
I hope I am wrong I honestly do.
Playing some youngsters through the season will keep me interested and then mount a challenge next season. I'm not in a rush for promotion like others
I’m not saying we will find a player quite like Aneke as he has so much to his game. My point was that we wanted both Aneke and Stockley, we only have one. We seem to have drafted in Davison as the replacement role of Aneke, in the sense of being a striker who will play that number 9 position. The difference is we will lose so much quality and see such a difference if we lose Stockley. I think Davison is alright, but he’s not at the level of striker I hoped we would bring in to replace Aneke if Stockley was unavailable.
We have some really good attacking players not and actually quite a bit of pace which we seriously lacked a couple of weeks ago. I think there will definitely be goals in this team now. The only thing it does is put pressure on players like Stockley and Purrington to stay and get fit, respectively.
Both Arter & Leco come with warnings from fans.
Arter- fans reckon his legs have gone.
Leco - I believe has not scored at Brum, didn't he suffer an ACL injury? Could slow him down.
I'd be satisfied if one was a success.
If 4-3-3 Lee will mainly be the attacking midfielder but we have a squad which looks decent for League 1. The LB position looks weak for cover and Aneke hasn't been replaced ( How were we going to replace a player who scored a goal every 100 minutes last season ?)
Lavelle hasn't come to be back up.
Inniss will be back up as he can probably only play 20 games max, and young Deji will also get games as back up.
This will be a squad effort as we don't have the X factor players this season unlike our Wembley winning side.
Jackson's comments re: Schwartz didn't seem to be ruling him out completely but these mysterious "fitness reasons" have certainly been going on for an oddly long time now. Wouldn't be entirely surprised if he was let go to return to his home country/league tbh.
Arter and Leko have more question marks over them, they're available because they've flopped badly at their current clubs. Which doesn't mean that they can't go and do a great job for us in L1, but it's yet to be seen.
Good permanent signings in Kirk & Lavelle.
Good loans in Lee & Arter.
From what I've seen Dobson & Clare aren't good enough for a promotion chasing side & Leko is not what's really needed.
What is needed & that we don't currently have is a striker to replace Aneke & to be there if Stockley is out injured for any length of time as well as a left back, although this I expect to be sorted by an out of contract player very soon.
I would also like to see Lavelle start & not be a back up player. Not sure who he will replace but perhaps Innis' injury is worse than thought or isnt recovering well enough after games. Or we play 3 centre halves....
So all in all ok from where we were 2 weeks ago but still not as good as I hoped 2 months ago. Dont think we will get automatics so top 6 has to be the aim. Still think that could be a long shot if Stockley is missing for long periods or Purrington breaks down without a replacement being brought in.
My prediction for the end of the season - between 5th and 8th.
Assuming they get good game time I’d expect us to get a better spread of goals across the team this time.
Wonder if they’re going to try and use him like Grant with Taylor or as a proper winger?