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Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)

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  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,754
    As for worrying about disrespect. Do me a favour, Christ. 😂
  • GreenWithEnvy
    GreenWithEnvy Posts: 1,848
    Croydon said:
    Jonniesta said:
    I find the disrespect shown to Watson staggering. This is a guy who has spent best part of 10 years in the Premier League,  knows how to play the big game, scoring the winner in the Cup Final, and surely would be a great role model for the young team we're looking to build. Yes, he and Pratley together last season brings back horrific memories of overly defensive home games that ultimately cost us a play off place, but we need some experience in the squad, and the guys we want to buy won't have it. Would expect Nige to be leveraging his, Gunter's and Pearce's experience as players to see games out, whilst we build an attacking side that takes games to teams. 
    Couldn't care less about his credentials. He was fucking toilet for us. On a big wage, when we were under the cap, and spent half his appearances looking like he couldn't be arsed. Would have taken another year of Pratley over him any day.

    Gunter is shit, Watson is shit. We need experience but lets get it from some pros who actually play like they give a shit.
    Don't beat about the bush, tell us what you really think of those players.
  • Jonniesta
    Jonniesta Posts: 1,161
    Croydon said:
    As for worrying about disrespect. Do me a favour, Christ. 😂
    Not really sure what this means... 

    But describing those guys as 'shit' and 'fucking toilet' clearly highlights your thorough understanding of the intricacies of the game. I stand corrected. 
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,005
    Any IKO info on Stockley? Seems to have gone quiet 
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,015
    Both Watson’s and Gunters careers are on the way down. They were less than average this season, so they won’t improve next. We need players in that are on the way up.
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,730
    Valley11 said:
    Any IKO info on Stockley? Seems to have gone quiet 
    The last I heard was that Stockley is very keen on coming, and personal terms wouldn’t be an issue. PNE are keen to recoup as much of the 750k they paid as possible. We obviously don’t want to over pay for a player heading into the last year of his contract. Deal was close but Hull then came sniffing, PNE probably want a bidding war.

    Fairly confident we will get him though.
  • sinceiwasyoung
    sinceiwasyoung Posts: 1,040
    Croydon said:
    Jonniesta said:
    I find the disrespect shown to Watson staggering. This is a guy who has spent best part of 10 years in the Premier League,  knows how to play the big game, scoring the winner in the Cup Final, and surely would be a great role model for the young team we're looking to build. Yes, he and Pratley together last season brings back horrific memories of overly defensive home games that ultimately cost us a play off place, but we need some experience in the squad, and the guys we want to buy won't have it. Would expect Nige to be leveraging his, Gunter's and Pearce's experience as players to see games out, whilst we build an attacking side that takes games to teams. 
    Couldn't care less about his credentials. He was fucking toilet for us. On a big wage, when we were under the cap, and spent half his appearances looking like he couldn't be arsed. Would have taken another year of Pratley over him any day.

    Gunter is shit, Watson is shit. We need experience but lets get it from some pros who actually play like they give a shit.
    I couldn't agree more . Gunter and Watson are two of the worst signings we have made in recent times and we have made a few . TS please get rid .
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,303
    Watson is ok but not worth the relatively large salary he is rumoured to be on. 

    Gunter on the other hand is dreadful, lost count of how many goals he cost us, would love us to move him on but no way will any team take him off our hands after his season.
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    RedRobin Posts: 1,377
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  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,106
    Covered_End_Lad said:
    Valley11 said:
    Any IKO info on Stockley? Seems to have gone quiet 
    The last I heard was that Stockley is very keen on coming, and personal terms wouldn’t be an issue. PNE are keen to recoup as much of the 750k they paid as possible. We obviously don’t want to over pay for a player heading into the last year of his contract. Deal was close but Hull then came sniffing, PNE probably want a bidding war.

    Fairly confident we will get him though.
    Fuck off Hull, how many lumps up front do they want? Already got Eaves and Magennis.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,750
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Covered_End_Lad said:
    Valley11 said:
    Any IKO info on Stockley? Seems to have gone quiet 
    The last I heard was that Stockley is very keen on coming, and personal terms wouldn’t be an issue. PNE are keen to recoup as much of the 750k they paid as possible. We obviously don’t want to over pay for a player heading into the last year of his contract. Deal was close but Hull then came sniffing, PNE probably want a bidding war.

    Fairly confident we will get him though.
    Fuck off Hull, how many lumps up front do they want? Already got Eaves and Magennis.
    Hopefully Stockley chooses us on the basis he knows the setup here, and knows the Manager will utilise him.

    Big risk of him going to Hull and it not working, then goes on loan to another club and it not work out there either - All of a sudden becomes a little bit of a slippery slope with his career
  • SheedyCAFC
    SheedyCAFC Posts: 1,253
    SheedyCAFC said:
    Marcus Maddison is signing for Spalding United, on £500 a week.
    Can I be put on the info list now?😉
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,754
    edited May 2021
    Jonniesta said:
    Croydon said:
    As for worrying about disrespect. Do me a favour, Christ. 😂
    Not really sure what this means... 

    But describing those guys as 'shit' and 'fucking toilet' clearly highlights your thorough understanding of the intricacies of the game. I stand corrected. 
    Respect is earned, and Watson has done nothing in a Charlton shirt to earn my respect. If you think he and Gunter have played consistently well enough to earn a new deal, then I'd question whether you'd watched us this season.

    As others have said on this forum, and even on this thread, easily our most disappointing signings of the season. And,  given the circumstances with the cap, I'd argue 2 of our worst in recent years.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,985
    Interesting on Charlton TV tonight, as I'm sure I hear Thomas say that we're trying to sign TWO of the loan players on permanent deals. Stockley is obviously one of them, but who would the other one be? 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,432
    killerandflash said:
    Interesting on Charlton TV tonight, as I'm sure I hear Thomas say that we're trying to sign TWO of the loan players on permanent deals. Stockley is obviously one of them, but who would the other one be? 
    Famewo I hope, but I'd welcome Maatsen back too 
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,754
    edited May 2021
    Dazzler21 said:
    killerandflash said:
    Interesting on Charlton TV tonight, as I'm sure I hear Thomas say that we're trying to sign TWO of the loan players on permanent deals. Stockley is obviously one of them, but who would the other one be? 
    Famewo I hope, but I'd welcome Maatsen back too 
    Would take either of those. But can't imagine Chelsea letting Maatsen go. Maybe Norwich don't think Famewo is Premier League level.
  • Jonniesta
    Jonniesta Posts: 1,161
    Chris Gunter got shifted out of position a lot following a strong start at RB. Agree he never really recovered his best form. Watson was the opposite, thought his early performances and booking-a-game showings were pretty poor, but not sure about the 'legs have gone' argument, think he could still be a key influencer in a stable team if he's not covering a completely makeshift defence. And don't think either of them can be accused of not putting a shift in, despite individual errors. Would I extend both their contracts if they were out? Probably not, but they're Charlton players whose experience we can still leverage next year... reckon they'll get my support if they play next season. 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,750
    FishCostaFortune said:
    killerandflash said:
    Interesting on Charlton TV tonight, as I'm sure I hear Thomas say that we're trying to sign TWO of the loan players on permanent deals. Stockley is obviously one of them, but who would the other one be? 
    Matt Smith. 
    Which one?

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  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,834
    Dazzler21 said:
    killerandflash said:
    Interesting on Charlton TV tonight, as I'm sure I hear Thomas say that we're trying to sign TWO of the loan players on permanent deals. Stockley is obviously one of them, but who would the other one be? 
    Famewo I hope, but I'd welcome Maatsen back too 
    Has to be Famewo, can you really see Chelsea selling Maatsen, too many zero's on the price 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,750
    eastterrace6168 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    killerandflash said:
    Interesting on Charlton TV tonight, as I'm sure I hear Thomas say that we're trying to sign TWO of the loan players on permanent deals. Stockley is obviously one of them, but who would the other one be? 
    Famewo I hope, but I'd welcome Maatsen back too 
    Has to be Famewo, can you really see Chelsea selling Maatsen, too many zero's on the price 
    Chelsea have Maatsen tied down for a year longer than Norwich do with Famewo as well
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,995
    ForeverAddickted said:
    FishCostaFortune said:
    killerandflash said:
    Interesting on Charlton TV tonight, as I'm sure I hear Thomas say that we're trying to sign TWO of the loan players on permanent deals. Stockley is obviously one of them, but who would the other one be? 
    Matt Smith. 
    Which one?
    All of them
  • RonnieMoore
    RonnieMoore Posts: 4,533
    Dazzler21 said:
    killerandflash said:
    Interesting on Charlton TV tonight, as I'm sure I hear Thomas say that we're trying to sign TWO of the loan players on permanent deals. Stockley is obviously one of them, but who would the other one be? 
    Famewo I hope, but I'd welcome Maatsen back too 
    It’s Famewo 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,432
    eastterrace6168 said:
    Dazzler21 said:
    killerandflash said:
    Interesting on Charlton TV tonight, as I'm sure I hear Thomas say that we're trying to sign TWO of the loan players on permanent deals. Stockley is obviously one of them, but who would the other one be? 
    Famewo I hope, but I'd welcome Maatsen back too 
    Has to be Famewo, can you really see Chelsea selling Maatsen, too many zero's on the price 
     I have zero belief it will be Maatsen, I can see Famewo happening. His injury history and his inconsistency must give Naaridge doubts over his future at PL level.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,432
    ForeverAddickted said:
    If we sign Famewo I'd want us to potentially bring in two other Centre-Backs still

    Unless we have someone on the cusp playing for the U23s on a regular basis.

    Having just four CBs of Inniss | Famewo | Pearce | one other, would worry me if the first two got into trouble again
    Agree. 

    Not seen enough of Mingi to say whether he could be that man, but I believe he's the closest in the U23s.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,985
    I'd be surprised but pleasantly surprised if we bought Famewo, it would be quite a statement of intent
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