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Mourinho sacked- Ryan Mason in charge at Spurs

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    I mean when will this torture end Deano at palace 
    SCP at cnuting tottingfuckingham 
    fuck football
    I've got some good news for you Oohah. If the so called "Big 6" results were to be expunged this season your second favourite team, West Ham, will win the Premier League!
    Palace in Europe maybe as well to top it/me  off 
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    Are you just as relieved as my Hubby that he’s gone @JohnBoyUK ?
    Despite the super league nonsense.
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    JohnBoyUK said:
    Good article here...

    The Athletic - Mourinho: The Inside Story

    "It was half-time at the Etihad Stadium on February 13. Tottenham were 1-0 down to Manchester City but had barely been in the game at all. No shots on target, no corners, 35.9 per cent possession.

    Jose Mourinho walked in and was unusually positive, telling the players they were doing well and to keep it up. Some of the senior players in the dressing room were shocked that such a passive, negative approach could be right for this club. “You really think this is good?" remarked one. Tottenham did nothing in the second half and lost the game 3-0.

    As the reality of Mourinho’s methods became apparent, it did not take long for the Tottenham players to pine for the days of Pochettino. The players found themselves relying on the same attacking moves he had taught them, long after he’d left the club.

    Under the Argentinean, the team had a clear philosophy of play which they would work on perfecting every day. Under Mourinho, that went out of the window. His approach was to tailor different tactics to every single opponent, designed to exploit their own distinct weaknesses. Players remarked that as they got closer to every match, the atmosphere was increasingly marked by fear of what might go wrong. Spurs were so fixated on what the opposition might do, they forgot to focus on their own game.

    It did not take the Tottenham players to grow bored of Mourinho’s training sessions. They felt weighed down by the defensive focus, the hours spent working on how to defend throw-ins before facing Liverpool, and frustrated by the lack of attention to their own game. For years, Spurs teams of all levels had focused on building up from the back and passing the ball, but for Mourinho that was all forgotten.

    “He has sucked the culture out of the club," said one dressing-room source, “and destroyed what Spurs have stood for for years."

    The players were also struck by the lack of intensity in their training programme. Working under Pochettino was extremely hard, and the players would complain about the number of double sessions, and the lack of days off, as Pochettino and his staff got the team fit enough to play his aggressive, pressing football. But that same group of players then felt the opposite was true under Mourinho — that they were not being worked hard enough. They felt as if almost every session was either recovery from one match or tactical preparation for the next one, which made it especially difficult for the players who were not in the team to find any rhythm.

    When they got what they felt was a harder week of training before the FA Cup visit to Wycombe Wanderers in January, the players were even relieved to have been worked hard. They would even joke among themselves that training at this intensity could prolong their careers.

    Sacramento was meant to provide an update to Mourinho’s methods and a link to the players at Spurs. But in reality, he proved just as unpopular as Mourinho. Multiple sources report that the players struggled to connect with him, saying he lacked the emotional intelligence to deal with a squad of established Premier League stars. Rival coaches also picked up on Sacramento’s lack of experience, especially in comparison to Faria, with one even remarking to The Athletic how little authority he seemed to have on the touchline, barking tactical instructions to uninterested players.

    The players felt, as the season wore on, that whatever went wrong they would be blamed for it, and that Mourinho was happy to throw them under the bus. Ahead of the line-up being announced for the game against Manchester United recently, one club source remarked, “I wonder which lambs will be sent out to slaughter this week."

    “Four or five players absolutely hate him, four or five like him, four or five just aren’t arsed," said another club source earlier this month. “He just splits the camp, because of what he says and how he says it."

    Tottenham knew how much damage Mourinho was doing through his comments. Staff had been left embarrassed by how he would talk to the squad. Players such as Doherty had found their confidence shattered by the way the manager would criticise them. And while the club had told Mourinho to stop hammering the players after games, it did not always make a difference.

    By this point, Mourinho had few allies left at Tottenham. Not only had he fallen out with the players but, according to multiple sources, many colleagues had been put off by his negative mood and demeanour. More than one source drew a contrast between the approach of Pochettino, who tried to create an inclusive environment and Mourinho, who essentially retreated into his bunker in the final months.

    As results turned against him, Mourinho found almost no one was left on his side. “You always know what you’re going to get with Mourinho," said one former colleague. “But it is still very unpleasant when you do get it."

    Wowsers
    It sounds exactly like what was said about Lee Bowyer, apart from Bowyer possibly over training/training too vigorous. 
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    Are you just as relieved as my Hubby that he’s gone @JohnBoyUK ?
    Despite the super league nonsense.
    Yes, absolutely.

    He had to go.  Thought he'd started to get a tune out of them again but then the NLD was the final straw.

    Even when Arsenal were in their absolute pomp with Henry, Pires & Co, we fought to the death. That last NLD showed no fight at all.  You expect players to run through brick walls in that game but they couldnt have fought their way out of a wet paper bag.  4 days later, Dynamo Zagreb happened.  That was the end.

    So many of the squad have been discarded.  Rose, Dele, Winks, Sessegnon dumped out on loan, Alderweirald, Vertonghen dumped last season out of favour.  Hard to believe really.

    Telegraph are now reporting Levy wanted Dele and Winks reintroduced to the squad for next season, Mourinho wanted them moved on... sounds more likely than Mourinho refusing to take training (which has been confirmed as not the case now!)

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    JohnBoyUK said:
    Are you just as relieved as my Hubby that he’s gone @JohnBoyUK ?
    Despite the super league nonsense.
    Yes, absolutely.

    He had to go.  Thought he'd started to get a tune out of them again but then the NLD was the final straw.

    Even when Arsenal were in their absolute pomp with Henry, Pires & Co, we fought to the death. That last NLD showed no fight at all.  You expect players to run through brick walls in that game but they couldnt have fought their way out of a wet paper bag.  4 days later, Dynamo Zagreb happened.  That was the end.

    So many of the squad have been discarded.  Rose, Dele, Winks, Sessegnon dumped out on loan, Alderweirald, Vertonghen dumped last season out of favour.  Hard to believe really.

    Telegraph are now reporting Levy wanted Dele and Winks reintroduced to the squad for next season, Mourinho wanted them moved on... sounds more likely than Mourinho refusing to take training (which has been confirmed as not the case now!)

    100%
    Certainly didn’t buy the ‘refusing to take training’ line.

    For me, I’ve always enjoyed watching Spurs. But since Mourinho arrived it’s been painful. I don’t know one fan who was happy with his appointment in the first place.

    Its just a shame now that all this nonsense will detract from who comes in next.

    Let’s hope common sense prevails. 
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    Spurs are getting the ending they deserve.

    Everyone knows how Mourinho operates - the bloke has been managing at the top level in Europe for 20 seasons now - so Levy knew the risk of appointing the bloke and took it anyway.

    The only way it works with Jose is if he is in total control and that's getting harder to achieve in the modern game.

    The only way he can keep control is if he is succeeding on the pitch - but when results go south then problems start.

    The reality is - hard though it is to believe - that Spurs were top of the Premier League as late as early December but then it all began to unravel.
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    Probably the last we will see of JM in the Premier League, as what with all of the ESL drama I can't see him getting a decent gig elsewhere now.

    In a strange way he is better with a smaller 'challenger' club, as he can build that siege mentality, and convince the lesser players to believe in the 'project' as Europeans like to call football seasons.

    Players like Benji McCarthy and Marco Matterazzi could probably only have won the UCL with a coach like Mourinho, as their lack of playing talent was compensated by their (and their team-mates) devotion to the cause, and his footballing philosophy.

    Unfortunately at the bigger clubs, players like Kane and Bale know that he needs them more than they need him, so don't need to adopt the same level of 'buy-in', whilst the likes of Alderweild, Lloris and Sissoko have seen it all before, and are probably just happy to see out their bumper contracts.

    Its a real shame, as whilst he is capable of being a total arsehole, in a funny way there is something likeable about him - a bit like Cloughie in that respect.
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    No chance of Powell appearing on Valley Pass Live now!
    I expect he's aiming to get a new Spurs stadium stand named after him...
    Hope he does well (which is a generous comment from a non-Spurs fan)
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    brownbear said:
    Probably the last we will see of JM in the Premier League, as what with all of the ESL drama I can't see him getting a decent gig elsewhere now.

    In a strange way he is better with a smaller 'challenger' club, as he can build that siege mentality, and convince the lesser players to believe in the 'project' as Europeans like to call football seasons.

    Players like Benji McCarthy and Marco Matterazzi could probably only have won the UCL with a coach like Mourinho, as their lack of playing talent was compensated by their (and their team-mates) devotion to the cause, and his footballing philosophy.

    Unfortunately at the bigger clubs, players like Kane and Bale know that he needs them more than they need him, so don't need to adopt the same level of 'buy-in', whilst the likes of Alderweild, Lloris and Sissoko have seen it all before, and are probably just happy to see out their bumper contracts.

    Its a real shame, as whilst he is capable of being a total arsehole, in a funny way there is something likeable about him - a bit like Cloughie in that respect.

    That's half the point though I think, there was something likeable about him, back at Chelsea and Inter there was a bit of wit and humour together with the arrogance and siege mentality stuff.  The football was a bit more positive too - it was only the odd occasion (Inter v Barca semi for example) he went for the full on bus parking tactics. 

    He's become a poor parody of himself - permanently sulky and grumpy, and very negative in a lot more games.
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    JohnBoyUK said:
    Are you just as relieved as my Hubby that he’s gone @JohnBoyUK ?
    Despite the super league nonsense.
    Yes, absolutely.

    He had to go.  Thought he'd started to get a tune out of them again but then the NLD was the final straw.

    Even when Arsenal were in their absolute pomp with Henry, Pires & Co, we fought to the death. That last NLD showed no fight at all.  You expect players to run through brick walls in that game but they couldnt have fought their way out of a wet paper bag.  4 days later, Dynamo Zagreb happened.  That was the end.

    So many of the squad have been discarded.  Rose, Dele, Winks, Sessegnon dumped out on loan, Alderweirald, Vertonghen dumped last season out of favour.  Hard to believe really.

    Telegraph are now reporting Levy wanted Dele and Winks reintroduced to the squad for next season, Mourinho wanted them moved on... sounds more likely than Mourinho refusing to take training (which has been confirmed as not the case now!)

    100%
    Certainly didn’t buy the ‘refusing to take training’ line.

    For me, I’ve always enjoyed watching Spurs. But since Mourinho arrived it’s been painful. I don’t know one fan who was happy with his appointment in the first place.

    Its just a shame now that all this nonsense will detract from who comes in next.

    Let’s hope common sense prevails. 
    No but there were a few that thought that Spurs were going to win the PL by "parking the bus" for the duration of the season. And they didn't mind that the football was somewhat sterile either.
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    JohnBoyUK said:
    Good article here...

    The Athletic - Mourinho: The Inside Story

    "It was half-time at the Etihad Stadium on February 13. Tottenham were 1-0 down to Manchester City but had barely been in the game at all. No shots on target, no corners, 35.9 per cent possession.

    Jose Mourinho walked in and was unusually positive, telling the players they were doing well and to keep it up. Some of the senior players in the dressing room were shocked that such a passive, negative approach could be right for this club. “You really think this is good?" remarked one. Tottenham did nothing in the second half and lost the game 3-0.

    As the reality of Mourinho’s methods became apparent, it did not take long for the Tottenham players to pine for the days of Pochettino. The players found themselves relying on the same attacking moves he had taught them, long after he’d left the club.

    Under the Argentinean, the team had a clear philosophy of play which they would work on perfecting every day. Under Mourinho, that went out of the window. His approach was to tailor different tactics to every single opponent, designed to exploit their own distinct weaknesses. Players remarked that as they got closer to every match, the atmosphere was increasingly marked by fear of what might go wrong. Spurs were so fixated on what the opposition might do, they forgot to focus on their own game.

    It did not take the Tottenham players to grow bored of Mourinho’s training sessions. They felt weighed down by the defensive focus, the hours spent working on how to defend throw-ins before facing Liverpool, and frustrated by the lack of attention to their own game. For years, Spurs teams of all levels had focused on building up from the back and passing the ball, but for Mourinho that was all forgotten.

    “He has sucked the culture out of the club," said one dressing-room source, “and destroyed what Spurs have stood for for years."

    The players were also struck by the lack of intensity in their training programme. Working under Pochettino was extremely hard, and the players would complain about the number of double sessions, and the lack of days off, as Pochettino and his staff got the team fit enough to play his aggressive, pressing football. But that same group of players then felt the opposite was true under Mourinho — that they were not being worked hard enough. They felt as if almost every session was either recovery from one match or tactical preparation for the next one, which made it especially difficult for the players who were not in the team to find any rhythm.

    When they got what they felt was a harder week of training before the FA Cup visit to Wycombe Wanderers in January, the players were even relieved to have been worked hard. They would even joke among themselves that training at this intensity could prolong their careers.

    Sacramento was meant to provide an update to Mourinho’s methods and a link to the players at Spurs. But in reality, he proved just as unpopular as Mourinho. Multiple sources report that the players struggled to connect with him, saying he lacked the emotional intelligence to deal with a squad of established Premier League stars. Rival coaches also picked up on Sacramento’s lack of experience, especially in comparison to Faria, with one even remarking to The Athletic how little authority he seemed to have on the touchline, barking tactical instructions to uninterested players.

    The players felt, as the season wore on, that whatever went wrong they would be blamed for it, and that Mourinho was happy to throw them under the bus. Ahead of the line-up being announced for the game against Manchester United recently, one club source remarked, “I wonder which lambs will be sent out to slaughter this week."

    “Four or five players absolutely hate him, four or five like him, four or five just aren’t arsed," said another club source earlier this month. “He just splits the camp, because of what he says and how he says it."

    Tottenham knew how much damage Mourinho was doing through his comments. Staff had been left embarrassed by how he would talk to the squad. Players such as Doherty had found their confidence shattered by the way the manager would criticise them. And while the club had told Mourinho to stop hammering the players after games, it did not always make a difference.

    By this point, Mourinho had few allies left at Tottenham. Not only had he fallen out with the players but, according to multiple sources, many colleagues had been put off by his negative mood and demeanour. More than one source drew a contrast between the approach of Pochettino, who tried to create an inclusive environment and Mourinho, who essentially retreated into his bunker in the final months.

    As results turned against him, Mourinho found almost no one was left on his side. “You always know what you’re going to get with Mourinho," said one former colleague. “But it is still very unpleasant when you do get it."

    Wowsers

    Chris Powell is going to get them playing like Barcelona
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    JohnBoyUK said:

    “He has sucked the culture out of the club," said one dressing-room source, “and destroyed what Spurs have stood for for years."

    I hate lines like this. I hate the idea that football teams 'stand for something' in terms of football play, as if it grants them moral superiority because their centre half likes to pass the ball to a teammate as much as possible. Teams change tactics constantly, mostly because they sack managers constantly in pursuit of results, their 'footballing culture' is to get as many points as possible. Charlton are a club that stands for something; we're a community club that is focused on ensuring that all groups. marginalised or otherwise, who associate themselves with Charlton are given the support they need in and out of football. Change the manager a thousand times, get in new players every season it doesn't matter, the club has an ingrained culture and that can only be eroded through years and years of hard work by bad owners. We had Roland and the ESIs try their hardest to to damage it and they still couldn't. The idea that Spurs or West Ham are constantly in danger of losing their 'culture' because they played a few long balls is just such an annoying hyperbole.
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    They haven't won a trophy is 15 years almost, get to a final and sack their serial trophy winning manager, to put Southends sacked manager in charge, what are they thinking. 
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    Might have to show an interest in this game on Sunday if SCP is in the dugout.
    Nope, not for me. Just because Powell's there shouldn't stop the total and immediate boycott of everything these teams touch.

    Any viewing figures these cretins receive is just more fuel for their leaving. 
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    edited April 2021
    Just confirmed by Spurs that Ryan Mason is in charge until the end of the season.

    Chris Powell his assistant.

    https://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/2021/april/coaching-update/
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    They haven't won a trophy is 15 years almost, get to a final and sack their serial trophy winning manager, to put Southends sacked manager in charge, what are they thinking. 
    He got us promoted didn't he? Football management has a lot of variables involved its not black and white, he might do well..
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56813398

    The club also confirmed that Chris Powell and Nigel Gibbs will be interim assistant head coaches, with Michel Vorm as interim goalkeeping coach while Ledley King will continue in his role as first-team assistant.

    A number of familiar names there alongside Powell, Gibbs was a Watford legend while I hadn't realised that Vorm had retired from playing

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    As much as most of us would like to see SCP get the number one position, it is great that Ryan Mason, following his career being so cruelly cut short, getting this opportunity to see what he can do. To think he's not even 30 yet but, there again, Eddie Howe became Bournemouth Manager at slightly older and he hasn't done too badly.
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    As much as most of us would like to see SCP get the number one position, it is great that Ryan Mason, following his career being so cruelly cut short, getting this opportunity to see what he can do. To think he's not even 30 yet but, there again, Eddie Howe became Bournemouth Manager at slightly older and he hasn't done too badly.
    Steve Coppell, many years ago, was another who started young as a manager due to injury
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    Mason must be very highly thought of to be given such an opportunity at that age. Particularly when you have Chris Powell sitting there who I would have thought would have been the perfect safe pair of hands for the next couple of months.
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    JohnBoyUK said:
    Are you just as relieved as my Hubby that he’s gone @JohnBoyUK ?
    Despite the super league nonsense.
    Yes, absolutely.

    He had to go.  Thought he'd started to get a tune out of them again but then the NLD was the final straw.

    Even when Arsenal were in their absolute pomp with Henry, Pires & Co, we fought to the death. That last NLD showed no fight at all.  You expect players to run through brick walls in that game but they couldnt have fought their way out of a wet paper bag.  4 days later, Dynamo Zagreb happened.  That was the end.

    So many of the squad have been discarded.  Rose, Dele, Winks, Sessegnon dumped out on loan, Alderweirald, Vertonghen dumped last season out of favour.  Hard to believe really.

    Telegraph are now reporting Levy wanted Dele and Winks reintroduced to the squad for next season, Mourinho wanted them moved on... sounds more likely than Mourinho refusing to take training (which has been confirmed as not the case now!)

    100%
    Certainly didn’t buy the ‘refusing to take training’ line.

    For me, I’ve always enjoyed watching Spurs. But since Mourinho arrived it’s been painful. I don’t know one fan who was happy with his appointment in the first place.

    Its just a shame now that all this nonsense will detract from who comes in next.

    Let’s hope common sense prevails. 
    No but there were a few that thought that Spurs were going to win the PL by "parking the bus" for the duration of the season. And they didn't mind that the football was somewhat sterile either.
    Were there?
    Got to be honest I know quite a few Spuds & not one of them did.
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    CAFCsayer said:
    Jose has won the lottery here... Apparently there was a clause in his contract that Spurs could sac him with no pay-off if he didnt make Europe. Aparrently he refused to take training this morning in protest of super league, is now in line for a 30mill pay-off and everyone thinks the sun shines out of his arse

    Rumours have it he as refused to take training as club signed up for super league. If true he has my respect! 
    I'm not saying he doesn't have principals but £30,000,000 makes it easy to take the moral high ground.
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    BBC says that Mason is taking training
    Which would make SCP the boss and Mason the flunky?
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    Jose's superpower has always been to convince owners to spend hundreds of millions of pounds per summer window. Winning came from that more than his actual management.

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    Jose's superpower has always been to convince owners to spend hundreds of millions of pounds per summer window. Winning came from that more than his actual management.

    Which is ironic, because at the 2 clubs where he one the Champions league he spent hardly any money at all. 
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    JiMMy 85 said:
    There’s a recording going around of Jamie Redknapp. I think it might be a WhatsApp voice note, where he says Spurs saved money by sacking Jose while the club are outside the top six. He then calls Levy and co. ‘fucking clowns’ which is rich coming from that bucket of inanity. 
    I've got it.  Was going to post it up but couldnt work out how to.  Guess it needs uploading to you tube or soundcloud or something...

    Anyway, 1st half was a bit ropey but 2nd half was much more like it.  62% possession at home over 90 minutes, first time that has happened since Poch.


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