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Post-match Thread: Charlton Athletic v Bristol Rovers | Tues 16 March 2021
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Plus points, couple of goals from Jackson's changes and coming from 2-0 down.
Unfortunately, I can't get excited about that performance. It was littered with mistakes, we constantly gave the ball away and and were far too open for my liking. I am back to what I said after the Shrewsbury game, I fear for us against any of the teams pushing for promotion. I can't see us living with any of them at the moment.
Liam Millar seems to be going backwards. He definitely needs to be rotated out of the team and DJ deserves a chance.
For context, consider Bristol Rovers away form. They have not won an away game since 5th December and their record since that date (including the game last night) reads as follows:
Won: 0
Drawn: 2
Lost: 9
Scored: 5 Conceded: 21
I would like Jackson to step into the firing line and be a huge success, but my instinct is he is not the right man for where we are/want to go at the moment. Hopefully he will remain involved as he is clearly a good link between the players and management, but I have a feeling we will se a new man come in and he will bring his own team with him.8 -
If Maatsen wasn't a loanee would you feel the same?Leuth said:Can't agree. A pet hate, which some of you may have noticed, is when fans treat our loan players differently to our fully-contracted players. They're all Charlton right now, support them all right now, unless they really aren't trying, which is a very rare situation
I am sorry but all the while we are competing for something I agree they should be treated the same. Once we're not competing, why play them? The whole point of loanees for us is that they enable us to compete.
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They should be our first choice pairing. Washington showed he keeps going for the full 98 mins too.ForeverAddickted said:
In additionDazzler21 said:
And Aneke has 12 league goals from 75 shots. 16% conversion ratio.Covered_End_Lad said:
As a comparison, Liam Millar has had 19 shots and scored 1 goal. Conversion rate of 5%.Covered_End_Lad said:Quick stat for those who like them. Washington has scored 11 goals from just 30 shots this season. Goal conversion rate of 37%. Clinical.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/league-one/top-scorers
Aneke has 54% shot accuracy
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Agreed, I really like Stockley but find he's too easy a temptation for long ballDazzler21 said:
They should be our first choice pairing. Washington showed he keeps going for the full 98 mins too.ForeverAddickted said:
In additionDazzler21 said:
And Aneke has 12 league goals from 75 shots. 16% conversion ratio.Covered_End_Lad said:
As a comparison, Liam Millar has had 19 shots and scored 1 goal. Conversion rate of 5%.Covered_End_Lad said:Quick stat for those who like them. Washington has scored 11 goals from just 30 shots this season. Goal conversion rate of 37%. Clinical.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/league-one/top-scorers
Aneke has 54% shot accuracy
Washington has 63% shot accuracy
Aneke on the other hand has very good control with the ball to feet and does bully the opposition more2 -
Agreed, but working with a legend liker Curbishley might be a lot more appealingWheresmeticket? said:JJ will make a decision based on what is best for his career.
I personally don't think that working as Bowyer's assistant is what would be best, but he may choose that over being an assistant to a new manager at Charlton.0 -
For all the people saying to drop Maatsen, what part of Jackson's self-avowed preference for higher press and positivity on the ball will that aid? Sure, Purrington's errors are less noticeable because he has a less proactive style, but my whole support of Maatsen has been because his movement is on a level other full-backs in L1 just cannot touch. If we're gonna go out and beat the other bigger teams, we need to gamble on our best players playing at their best1
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Agreed.paulsturgess said:Maatsen is clearly still a much better player than Purrington with the right decision making.
The problem is Maatsen usually makes the wrong decision, always out of position and generally passes to the opposition.
He's young he will improve, but I'm judging him on now, not what he may be in 3 years time.6 -
He deservedly gets negative comments for his behaviour and character at times, but thought that was a fair assessment.ForeverAddickted said:7 -
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good fight back from 2-0 down and regained a play off slot where a couple, Doncaster & Lincoln, are starting to falter. However there is still a need for a BIG improvement to keep up a promotion drive. I wonder if we'll see an Addicks/Mackems Pt 3 in the early summer?0
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might struggle to put a team out ...Dazzler21 said:
Bench them then.Oggy Red said:
You can't terminate loans outside of transfer windows.Dazzler21 said:As soon as playoffs are out of reach, I'd terminate all our loans early. Play only our players that are fighting for contracts. (I realise this may only be 1-3 games)
Of course, there's a choice not to select the player ......... now that would piss off the lending club, if that's what you mean?
We need to focus on who is going to be kept on/renewed.1 -
Disagree, we've had 4 months of gambling on Maatsen playing at his best and he hasn't and he's shown no sign of doing so.Leuth said:For all the people saying to drop Maatsen, what part of Jackson's self-avowed preference for higher press and positivity on the ball will that aid? Sure, Purrington's errors are less noticeable because he has a less proactive style, but my whole support of Maatsen has been because his movement is on a level other full-backs in L1 just cannot touch. If we're gonna go out and beat the other bigger teams, we need to gamble on our best players playing at their best
Let's stop gambling on a naive lad with potential and tighten up our leaky defence with a player who is more reliable, has miles better positional sense, is a better crosser and scores more as well.
I've nothing against Maatsen other than he's a liability we can well do without.
(I don't doubt he has potential, but that's no use to us now).2 -
Agreed, like how he bemoaned the free kick but focused on his teams inability to setup for it rather than focus on the refereeForeverAddickted said:2 -
Came over as a reasonably fair assessment of the game, and a calm reasoning of where they are this season, must say lost count of the "dusting themselves down" requiredForeverAddickted said:0 -
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Boys showed great character tonight. +3 and we keep moving! Great goals @jakeforstercaskey @andyshinnie1 @conorjwashington92#team #cafc #coyr1
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Five games unbeaten Back in the top six1
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Last night's Man of the Match, with 44% of your vote, was match-winner Conor Washington!
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I commented at the time that the free kick was soft BUT the referee had also given them soft free kicks against Stockley, so the referee was consistent.ForeverAddickted said:
Agreed, like how he bemoaned the free kick but focused on his teams inability to setup for it rather than focus on the refereeForeverAddickted said:
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Barton in interview provides a truly startling contrast with Bowyer, for all that they had similar bad-boy reputations as players1
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I think to an extent there's room for both of them depending on the opposition. Purrington's more solid defensively, but he does get done for pace, so Maatsen's a better bet up against nippy wingers like DJCovered End said:
Disagree, we've had 4 months of gambling on Maatsen playing at his best and he hasn't and he's shown no sign of doing so.Leuth said:For all the people saying to drop Maatsen, what part of Jackson's self-avowed preference for higher press and positivity on the ball will that aid? Sure, Purrington's errors are less noticeable because he has a less proactive style, but my whole support of Maatsen has been because his movement is on a level other full-backs in L1 just cannot touch. If we're gonna go out and beat the other bigger teams, we need to gamble on our best players playing at their best
Let's stop gambling on a naive lad with potential and tighten up our leaky defence with a player who is more reliable, has miles better positional sense, is a better crosser and scores more as well.
I've nothing against Maatsen other than he's a liability we can well do without.
(I don't doubt he has potential, but that's no use to us now).
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I think it wasn't so much the tackles, but the lack of energy and pace.soapboxsam said:Redhenry said:
Exactly what i thoughtblackpool72 said:No Watson or Pratley in the starting line-up. =3 points
Who'd a thought it
Like all football forums we have diverse views but I can't remember anyone saying both Watson and Pratley should play in the midfield at the same time ?
Lee Bowyer thought it was a good idea to play the yellow card twins together when it's patently obvious the game has moved on and Pratley and Watson can't get away with the tackles they have made most of their careers.
JJ agreed with the consenus.0 -
Watson or Pratley in front of the defence, possibly, and Watson in preference; Watson and Pratley together, never again, please. We need Shinnie and JFC in the side as much as possible, they're our two main creative players, so if you're having Watson, you've got to be prepared to sacrifice Millar or Morgan out of last night's team. Not too hard a decision to make on the back of what we saw last night.Southbank said:
Sure, if we don't mind being 2-0 down after 20 minutes.Fortune 82nd Minute said:
Please no, don't do that.Southbank said:IF we can get Inniss fit quickly enough and we play Watson in front of the defence, it will be hard for the top teams we play at the end of the season to break us down. We then might get into the pkayoffs with a few 1-0s. We won't get there with a weak defence. Giving Hull, Peterboro etc a 2 goal start will not work.
Compare the movement of Shinnie and F-C tonight compared with Watson and Pratley last Saturday. It's chalk and cheese. Let's thank Pratley and Watson for their efforts and move on for the rest of the season without them starting.0 -
Pearcey very vocal in that too, top guy. A lot of us counted him out a few games back (me included) happily been proved wrong on that one.ross1 said:1 -
Ask BHA what xG means in real terms.MattF said:Who doesn't love this xG stuff
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Which makes a load of differences.Covered End said:
2nd worst.MrOneLung said:Great turnaround but.....
we were 2-0 at home to team with worst away record in division.0
