I can't stand Shane. Owens is one of my favourites and it seems the two will have a 'mania programme. Sigh.
Shane was brilliant..... 20 years ago!
It's when it comes to things like mania the "everyone is a star so no one actually is" booking becomes so transparent. They rely on part timers and one offs to make it feel big but they have run out of people that can still go. There aren't the equivalents to Taker, HBK, HHH even Flair that could have one match a year and it be the match of the year.
There is obviously something in it because the worse the product is the more money they make. 🤷♂️
I just found the men's rumble so predictable. As soon as Lashley beat Lesnar, it was so obvious to me that Lesnar would win the rumble
If you're looking for unpredictability then scripted 'sport' is probably not the way to go.
Wish we’d all realised that before we got 29 pages into this thread.
The whole point of something being scripted is so that it can be made to be entertaining, unpredictable and compelling. The same reason people will watch Game of Thrones, Line of Duty or Coronation Street.
The Premier League is more predictable than most scripted entertainment.
I like Shane's fued with X-Pac at Wrestlemania XV and the Mean Street Posse, but after that he became a stuntman. His striking is as bad as Chyna's. He's someone I don't want to see on TV.
I like Shane's fued with X-Pac at Wrestlemania XV and the Mean Street Posse, but after that he became a stuntman. His striking is as bad as Chyna's. He's someone I don't want to see on TV.
His mania match with Vince was good but that's because Vince was very, very good.
I like Shane as a character. He’s great on the mic and can tell a story.
Plus there is still that novelty factor with him. It amazes me that a billionaire heir is willing and able to want to do the things he does at his age. I couldn’t see Randy Orton, Bobby Lashley, Brock Lesnar etc going to the top rope, let alone diving off the top of a cell. He doesn’t need to, but still wants to.
I find it hard to take my eyes off that sort of character who you know in real life is living a very different situation from practically anyone else on the roster.
If the alternative is watching boring mid card feuds invoking Nakamura, Nikki ASH, Street Profits etc then give me Shane any day of the week.
Yep. 100%. Nakamura hasn’t been involved in anything remotely interesting since his run with AJ Styles four years ago (which also failed to meet expectation).
I didn’t really understand the fuss with him when he joined the company. The NXT run was decent enough, but some fans were talking about him being THE guy in WWE for years to come purely based upon a style he wrestled in Japan. Bizarre thinking really, as he and WWE don’t really go hand in hand at all.
They've killed Nakamura's aura dead. His sidekick Boogs is a bigger hit than him
Boogs is class! I think Shane over Nakamura says a lot about how the two have been pushed. His debut match with Zayn was incredible. Zayn has also been used exceptionally....
I never thought we’d get to a point where Brock Lesnar is seemingly on TV every week, cutting promos and looking like he is genuinely enjoying himself.
I never thought we’d get to a point where Brock Lesnar is seemingly on TV every week, cutting promos and looking like he is genuinely enjoying himself.
It's a shame Brock will never really get the credit (for his whole career) that he deserves. Because he wasn't there enough and sort of skiped half a generation.
He is probably the most "legit" world champion since Jack Brisco, including Angle, you can well believe he could out wrestle Bret, out power Mark Henry, throw big show round like a rag doll. Him and Heyman are up there with Heenan and Bockwinkle, Cornette and the midnight and Ellery and the road warriors as iconic manager wrestlers combos.
I never thought we’d get to a point where Brock Lesnar is seemingly on TV every week, cutting promos and looking like he is genuinely enjoying himself.
It's a shame Brock will never really get the credit (for his whole career) that he deserves. Because he wasn't there enough and sort of skiped half a generation.
He is probably the most "legit" world champion since Jack Brisco, including Angle, you can well believe he could out wrestle Bret, out power Mark Henry, throw big show round like a rag doll. Him and Heyman are up there with Heenan and Bockwinkle, Cornette and the midnight and Ellery and the road warriors as iconic manager wrestlers combos.
“Legit” is the best way to describe him. He definitely has that ‘final level boss’ aura about him that nobody else (besides maybe Reigns right now) can get close to.
When he came back in 2012, I don’t think anyone expected he would stick around for 10 years - albeit on a part time basis.
Ending the Undertaker’s streak felt like a strange decision at the time, but it did propel Lesnar to being close to invincible for a few years following that. They’ve managed to get a ton of Wrestlemania, Summerslam, Rumble main events out of Lesnar in turn.
I know it's his persona at the moment, but he genuinely looks like he's having an absolute blast right now. Like Orton, who really went through the motions and looked like he couldn't give a shit for a couple of years, he looks like he's enjoying himself so much more, which is interesting because a lot of the midcard and undercard talent are claiming that the morale is the lowest it's been backstage, and a lot of people are unhappy with their lot and how they're used
I know it's his persona at the moment, but he genuinely looks like he's having an absolute blast right now. Like Orton, who really went through the motions and looked like he couldn't give a shit for a couple of years, he looks like he's enjoying himself so much more, which is interesting because a lot of the midcard and undercard talent are claiming that the morale is the lowest it's been backstage, and a lot of people are unhappy with their lot and how they're used
Orton was terrible for going through the motions, he kind of admitted to it on a recent broken skull. Nakamura is probably the worst at present for it.
Each to their own but I don't think you can get more legit than someone who won an Olympic Gold medal with a broken freaking neck. Sid and Vader had great looks as did other pre *insert date of steroid trial* I think by the nature of wrestling fans the looks aren't important these days and promos work rate are. I think Steve Austin is the best ever WWF/E champion and Flair WCW/NWA.
Although there was some match on Raw a couple of years ago with two giants that had a this is awesome chant before they even locked up.
To be fair, Brian Kendrick is brilliant. He'll make whatever programme he gets put in interesting, the person he's working with just needs to make sure they're smart enough to benefit from it.
I think the fact Brock was successful in MMA, which many pro wrestlers aren't (different skill set as much as anything) added to his credibility. Not many can say that except for a few of the early UFC types like Dan Severn and Ken Shamrock. It's not his fault if WWE are unable to build up other characters to that level, but even from the start Brock was a different animal. Youngest ever WWE champ I believe.
To be fair, Brian Kendrick is brilliant. He'll make whatever programme he gets put in interesting, the person he's working with just needs to make sure they're smart enough to benefit from it.
He was outstanding in CWC and 205 Live during his time there. Has a great mind for the business and will be a good asset backstage.
Also, he owns another promotion so we can have more forbidden door fun! 😂
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It's when it comes to things like mania the "everyone is a star so no one actually is" booking becomes so transparent. They rely on part timers and one offs to make it feel big but they have run out of people that can still go. There aren't the equivalents to Taker, HBK, HHH even Flair that could have one match a year and it be the match of the year.
There is obviously something in it because the worse the product is the more money they make. 🤷♂️
Plus there is still that novelty factor with him. It amazes me that a billionaire heir is willing and able to want to do the things he does at his age. I couldn’t see Randy Orton, Bobby Lashley, Brock Lesnar etc going to the top rope, let alone diving off the top of a cell. He doesn’t need to, but still wants to.
If the alternative is watching boring mid card feuds invoking Nakamura, Nikki ASH, Street Profits etc then give me Shane any day of the week.
I didn’t really understand the fuss with him when he joined the company. The NXT run was decent enough, but some fans were talking about him being THE guy in WWE for years to come purely based upon a style he wrestled in Japan. Bizarre thinking really, as he and WWE don’t really go hand in hand at all.
Boogs is class! I think Shane over Nakamura says a lot about how the two have been pushed. His debut match with Zayn was incredible. Zayn has also been used exceptionally....
He is probably the most "legit" world champion since Jack Brisco, including Angle, you can well believe he could out wrestle Bret, out power Mark Henry, throw big show round like a rag doll. Him and Heyman are up there with Heenan and Bockwinkle, Cornette and the midnight and Ellery and the road warriors as iconic manager wrestlers combos.
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Ending the Undertaker’s streak felt like a strange decision at the time, but it did propel Lesnar to being close to invincible for a few years following that. They’ve managed to get a ton of Wrestlemania, Summerslam, Rumble main events out of Lesnar in turn.
Just what they need.........
Orton was terrible for going through the motions, he kind of admitted to it on a recent broken skull. Nakamura is probably the worst at present for it.
Each to their own but I don't think you can get more legit than someone who won an Olympic Gold medal with a broken freaking neck. Sid and Vader had great looks as did other pre *insert date of steroid trial* I think by the nature of wrestling fans the looks aren't important these days and promos work rate are. I think Steve Austin is the best ever WWF/E champion and Flair WCW/NWA.
Although there was some match on Raw a couple of years ago with two giants that had a this is awesome chant before they even locked up.
Also, he owns another promotion so we can have more forbidden door fun! 😂
The Brandi Rhodes segment was cringe. She's fit, but should never be allowed to cut a promo EVER