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Has Bowyer lost it?
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We have won a game please have grace on both sides to be happy, and not see it as a chance to snipe and point score.12
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He's openly admitted he shouldn't have hooked Purrington for Matsaan on Tuesday night.
So why did he do it?
Because he lost it!
Admission is the first step on the road to recovery. We're with you Bows.0 -
That's not a fair comment. As i said on the post match thread, I've been quite vocal that I don't believe Bowyer is the man to take us forward long term, but I really want him to prove me wrong & I'm pleased with todays performance.ElfsborgAddick said:Half time against Rochdale at The Valley, Bowyer needed to be sacked on the spot. It's all gone very quiet.
Any Charlton fan who wants us to lose, or isn't happy when we win, needs to have a word with themselves!13 -
Guess we’re heading into this part of the cycle now, let’s give it to Monday or Tuesday when we can all talk rationally again!se9addick said:I have to say - I like this stage of the week, we can have a reasoned discussion without the raw emotion generated by our most recent loss/win.
In the day or so after the match it boils down to “Bowyer must go now” (if we’ve lost) or “where are the boo boys now” (if we’ve won).0 -
Gravesend_Addick said:
That's not a fair comment. As i said on the post match thread, I've been quite vocal that I don't believe Bowyer is the man to take us forward long term, but it was a good performance & I really want him to prove me wrong.ElfsborgAddick said:Half time against Rochdale at The Valley, Bowyer needed to be sacked on the spot. It's all gone very quiet.
Any Charlton fan who wants us to lose, or isn't happy when we win, needs to have a word with themselves!People were going potty at half time against Rochdale at The Valley.Why(virtually nobody) has there been nothing posted today after a win.......and the league table looking promising?3 -
Move to a defensive position. May I suggest.ElfsborgAddick said:Half time against Rochdale at The Valley, Bowyer needed to be sacked on the spot. It's all gone very quiet.
1. If he had played the players and formation that I have been saying we should have for weeks and weeks we would be top of the league.
2. Papering over the cracks, they were crap.
3. We were lucky. On another day, their two shots on target could have gone in and X should have been sent off.
4. We should have played X today, but Bowyer would have played him at left back (and collapse into laughter).2 -
Whether it becomes ‘noisy’ on this thread or not is entirely in the hands of one man - Lee Bowyer. If he makes needless changes to both the starting eleven and the formation for next Saturdays visit from Gillingham and we lose then of course fans have a right to ask questions. Like I said on the post match thread he needs to keep the same team as today (barring injuries in training this week), keep the same formation and let the players build on the foundations laid today. We don’t have to do much more than what we did today to beat the Gills so LB should keep faith in those who started to carry on where they left off. Now is the time to let a cohesive unit gel.2
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Redrobo said:
Move to a defensive position. May I suggest.ElfsborgAddick said:Half time against Rochdale at The Valley, Bowyer needed to be sacked on the spot. It's all gone very quiet.
1. If he had played the players and formation that I have been saying we should have for weeks and weeks we would be top of the league.
2. Papering over the cracks, they were crap.
3. We were lucky. On another day, their two shots on target could have gone in and X should have been sent off.
4. We should have played X today, but Bowyer would have played him at left back (and collapse into laughter).I don't watch the games as I do not have the Valley Pass facility. I have seen three matches since Swindon, April 2017.I go by his previous and being old fashioned in stabilty and not sacking a manager if they have a poor spell.1 -
Why would anyone post on a thread about loosing it after that performance? You could also argue that people are now coming on these threads and saying "were are you now" are just as sad. Almost like you get some sort of gratification out of it. That your more pleased some people's OPINIONS are wrong than we actually played well and won, comfortably.ElfsborgAddick said:Gravesend_Addick said:
That's not a fair comment. As i said on the post match thread, I've been quite vocal that I don't believe Bowyer is the man to take us forward long term, but it was a good performance & I really want him to prove me wrong.ElfsborgAddick said:Half time against Rochdale at The Valley, Bowyer needed to be sacked on the spot. It's all gone very quiet.
Any Charlton fan who wants us to lose, or isn't happy when we win, needs to have a word with themselves!People were going potty at half time against Rochdale at The Valley.Why(virtually nobody) hasthere been nothing posted today after a win.......and the league table looking promising?
We beat Rochdale, like we should, however that was probably our best, most complete, 90 minutes of the season. If we play like that every week no one will be "going potty"
Even more importantly if we play our best players, in the right positions, in a logical formation no one will be "going potty" either. We will never win every game, is it to much to ask to not not be able to win it at half time?
I think we are all in agreement that we only want Charlton to win as many games as possible. I can guarantee you no one wants us to not win against Gillingham to prove some point or stick some mythical boot in.
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If we had lost today there would have been a mountain of posts questioning Bowyer's position.All very predictable.2
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ElfsborgAddick said:If we had lost today there would have been a mountain of posts questioning Bowyer's position.All very predictable.TBF, that’s true.1
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If we had lost today there should be a lot of people questioning Bowyer's position, that's so predictable Stevie Wonder could see it.ElfsborgAddick said:If we had lost today there would have been a mountain of posts questioning Bowyer's position.All very predictable.
We didn't loose, but maybe you would prefer it if we did, so you could get some "oh here they are again points"?
I'll tell why we won, we had square pegs in square holes, looked sharp, looked like the players knew what they were doing, didn't fanny about with it for the sake of it, played our best available team and didn't make 5 defensive substitutions.
If you can tell me we have done all, or the majority of, them previously and consistently, please tell me when?12 -
Have a read of the comments made when the team was announced. How many thought that was the team we should be playing?AddickUpNorth said:Whether it becomes ‘noisy’ on this thread or not is entirely in the hands of one man - Lee Bowyer. If he makes needless changes to both the starting eleven and the formation for next Saturdays visit from Gillingham and we lose then of course fans have a right to ask questions. Like I said on the post match thread he needs to keep the same team as today (barring injuries in training this week), keep the same formation and let the players build on the foundations laid today. We don’t have to do much more than what we did today to beat the Gills so LB should keep faith in those who started to carry on where they left off. Now is the time to let a cohesive unit gel.Did someone actually say ‘use your brain Bowyer’?Now if he does not play the same team he is wrong? even though we don’t know what the medical team is saying. How will we know if it is needless or not?So as I understand it, if he makes any changes and loses, it is all his fault - like bringing in Famewo.
OK.
Just to be clear though. If he starts the same team he has done well whatever the result or performance?0 -
We’ve beaten 18th placed Rochdale in League One, the day I wank the manager off for that result hasn’t yet arrived ...
now win promotion and I’ll be warming the custard up for him !10 -
We did not "loose", correct.Cafc43v3r said:
If we had lost today there should be a lot of people questioning Bowyer's position, that's so predictable Stevie Wonder could see it.ElfsborgAddick said:If we had lost today there would have been a mountain of posts questioning Bowyer's position.All very predictable.
We didn't loose, but maybe you would prefer it if we did, so you could get some "oh here they are again points"?
I'll tell why we won, we had square pegs in square holes, looked sharp, looked like the players knew what they were doing, didn't fanny about with it for the sake of it, played our best available team and didn't make 5 defensive substitutions.
If you can tell me we have done all, or the majority of, them previously and consistently, please tell me when?
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Yes there would've been and rightfully so given recent performances & how bad Rochdale are!!ElfsborgAddick said:If we had lost today there would have been a mountain of posts questioning Bowyer's position.All very predictable.
Thankfully we won the game & played well, so let's enjoy it1 -
There is a guy from Scotland who adopted Charlton as his team, this was all VERY recently. He quoted himself as saying that before he came to London to "stay", he'd never heard of Charlton.
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Lose = lose a game.
Loose = my trousers are loose.
Is Bowyer losing it (as in the plot) ?4 -
It's a sign of progress you see, we failed to beat 24th placed Burton or 21st place Swindon, twice.oohaahmortimer said:We’ve beaten 18th placed Rochdale in League One, the day I wank the manager off for that result hasn’t yet arrived ...
now win promotion and I’ll be warming the custard up for him !
Did you warm the custard up for 20th place Bristol City or 19th place MK Dons?
The difference is though that this was a convincing win. Its the performance that might earn the manager a reach around, not just the result.
If we repeat the performance, more often than not, for the next 19 games I'll jump in a vat of custard holding only what God gave me and a humble pie.4 -
Is all that you can find fault in?ElfsborgAddick said:
We did not "loose", correct.Cafc43v3r said:
If we had lost today there should be a lot of people questioning Bowyer's position, that's so predictable Stevie Wonder could see it.ElfsborgAddick said:If we had lost today there would have been a mountain of posts questioning Bowyer's position.All very predictable.
We didn't loose, but maybe you would prefer it if we did, so you could get some "oh here they are again points"?
I'll tell why we won, we had square pegs in square holes, looked sharp, looked like the players knew what they were doing, didn't fanny about with it for the sake of it, played our best available team and didn't make 5 defensive substitutions.
If you can tell me we have done all, or the majority of, them previously and consistently, please tell me when?0 -
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Covered End said:Lose = lose a game.
Loose = my trousers are loose.
Is Bowyer losing it (as in the plot) ?
Anyway, do you know the guy from Scotland?
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Cafc43v3r said:
Is all that you can find fault in?ElfsborgAddick said:
We did not "loose", correct.Cafc43v3r said:
If we had lost today there should be a lot of people questioning Bowyer's position, that's so predictable Stevie Wonder could see it.ElfsborgAddick said:If we had lost today there would have been a mountain of posts questioning Bowyer's position.All very predictable.
We didn't loose, but maybe you would prefer it if we did, so you could get some "oh here they are again points"?
I'll tell why we won, we had square pegs in square holes, looked sharp, looked like the players knew what they were doing, didn't fanny about with it for the sake of it, played our best available team and didn't make 5 defensive substitutions.
If you can tell me we have done all, or the majority of, them previously and consistently, please tell me when?
No.
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Answer the question then.....ElfsborgAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:
Is all that you can find fault in?ElfsborgAddick said:
We did not "loose", correct.Cafc43v3r said:
If we had lost today there should be a lot of people questioning Bowyer's position, that's so predictable Stevie Wonder could see it.ElfsborgAddick said:If we had lost today there would have been a mountain of posts questioning Bowyer's position.All very predictable.
We didn't loose, but maybe you would prefer it if we did, so you could get some "oh here they are again points"?
I'll tell why we won, we had square pegs in square holes, looked sharp, looked like the players knew what they were doing, didn't fanny about with it for the sake of it, played our best available team and didn't make 5 defensive substitutions.
If you can tell me we have done all, or the majority of, them previously and consistently, please tell me when?
No.0 -
Cafc43v3r said:
Answer the question then.....ElfsborgAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:
Is all that you can find fault in?ElfsborgAddick said:
We did not "loose", correct.Cafc43v3r said:
If we had lost today there should be a lot of people questioning Bowyer's position, that's so predictable Stevie Wonder could see it.ElfsborgAddick said:If we had lost today there would have been a mountain of posts questioning Bowyer's position.All very predictable.
We didn't loose, but maybe you would prefer it if we did, so you could get some "oh here they are again points"?
I'll tell why we won, we had square pegs in square holes, looked sharp, looked like the players knew what they were doing, didn't fanny about with it for the sake of it, played our best available team and didn't make 5 defensive substitutions.
If you can tell me we have done all, or the majority of, them previously and consistently, please tell me when?
No.
I did.
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And rightly so!!, but we won and everyone should be happy, and bowyer continues to prove the people that doubt him wrong. If he doesn’t then he should be criticised for not doing his job well enough. It’s called football management.ElfsborgAddick said:If we had lost today there would have been a mountain of posts questioning Bowyer's position.All very predictable.0 -
paulfox said:
And rightly so!!, but we won and everyone should be happy, and bowyer continues to prove the people that doubt him wrong. If he doesn’t then he should be criticised for not doing his job well enough. It’s called football management.ElfsborgAddick said:If we had lost today there would have been a mountain of posts questioning Bowyer's position.All very predictable.
A manager's tenure is one game at a time then?
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No you didn't. Here it is againElfsborgAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:
Answer the question then.....ElfsborgAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:
Is all that you can find fault in?ElfsborgAddick said:
We did not "loose", correct.Cafc43v3r said:
If we had lost today there should be a lot of people questioning Bowyer's position, that's so predictable Stevie Wonder could see it.ElfsborgAddick said:If we had lost today there would have been a mountain of posts questioning Bowyer's position.All very predictable.
We didn't loose, but maybe you would prefer it if we did, so you could get some "oh here they are again points"?
I'll tell why we won, we had square pegs in square holes, looked sharp, looked like the players knew what they were doing, didn't fanny about with it for the sake of it, played our best available team and didn't make 5 defensive substitutions.
If you can tell me we have done all, or the majority of, them previously and consistently, please tell me when?
No.
I did.
I'll tell why we won, we had square pegs in square holes, looked sharp, looked like the players knew what they were doing, didn't fanny about with it for the sake of it, played our best available team and didn't make 5 defensive substitutions.If you can tell me we have done all, or the majority of, them previously and consistently, please tell me when?2 -
Cafc43v3r said:
No you didn't. Here it is againElfsborgAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:
Answer the question then.....ElfsborgAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:
Is all that you can find fault in?ElfsborgAddick said:
We did not "loose", correct.Cafc43v3r said:
If we had lost today there should be a lot of people questioning Bowyer's position, that's so predictable Stevie Wonder could see it.ElfsborgAddick said:If we had lost today there would have been a mountain of posts questioning Bowyer's position.All very predictable.
We didn't loose, but maybe you would prefer it if we did, so you could get some "oh here they are again points"?
I'll tell why we won, we had square pegs in square holes, looked sharp, looked like the players knew what they were doing, didn't fanny about with it for the sake of it, played our best available team and didn't make 5 defensive substitutions.
If you can tell me we have done all, or the majority of, them previously and consistently, please tell me when?
No.
I did.
I'll tell why we won, we had square pegs in square holes, looked sharp, looked like the players knew what they were doing, didn't fanny about with it for the sake of it, played our best available team and didn't make 5 defensive substitutions.If you can tell me we have done all, or the majority of, them previously and consistently, please tell me when?Which of course, I cannot, as has been mentioned with only having seen three games since 2017.As for Dundee...1 -
So your unequivocal defence of Bowyer is based on...............ElfsborgAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:
No you didn't. Here it is againElfsborgAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:
Answer the question then.....ElfsborgAddick said:Cafc43v3r said:
Is all that you can find fault in?ElfsborgAddick said:
We did not "loose", correct.Cafc43v3r said:
If we had lost today there should be a lot of people questioning Bowyer's position, that's so predictable Stevie Wonder could see it.ElfsborgAddick said:If we had lost today there would have been a mountain of posts questioning Bowyer's position.All very predictable.
We didn't loose, but maybe you would prefer it if we did, so you could get some "oh here they are again points"?
I'll tell why we won, we had square pegs in square holes, looked sharp, looked like the players knew what they were doing, didn't fanny about with it for the sake of it, played our best available team and didn't make 5 defensive substitutions.
If you can tell me we have done all, or the majority of, them previously and consistently, please tell me when?
No.
I did.
I'll tell why we won, we had square pegs in square holes, looked sharp, looked like the players knew what they were doing, didn't fanny about with it for the sake of it, played our best available team and didn't make 5 defensive substitutions.If you can tell me we have done all, or the majority of, them previously and consistently, please tell me when?Which of course, I cannot, as has been mentioned with only having seen three games since 2017.As for Dundee...4 -
That’s not what I said, you are putting words in my post!!!!.... bowyer has been far from perfect in his decision making and tactics for quite a while,based on results and performances he has to be judged by them.He has the squad so now he either sinks or swims. He has done well today, if he loses the next three he would have done shit and deserves any repercussions.in an ideal world he does a good job and we are all happy. If not he goes, whatever loyalty he has shown in his well paid job he loves to do.ElfsborgAddick said:paulfox said:
And rightly so!!, but we won and everyone should be happy, and bowyer continues to prove the people that doubt him wrong. If he doesn’t then he should be criticised for not doing his job well enough. It’s called football management.ElfsborgAddick said:If we had lost today there would have been a mountain of posts questioning Bowyer's position.All very predictable.
A manager's tenure is one game at a time then?3
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