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  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,725
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    And what if the Super League fails to ignite as a 12 club competition with the same teams playing each other over and over? These clubs will have nowhere to go. 
    Good. Let them fold.
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,748
    Redmidland said:
    This is another attempt at pure greed and stifling smaller clubs dreams of playing in the PL.
    Dock points off the six who have signed up, ban them from our domestic cup competitions and let them then fuck off and die when they realise German clubs etc will not be taking part.
    Let them go and invite the top 6 from Germany to take their place. They can help lead the way to English fan owned clubs. Call it the FA Premier Volks League.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,453
    FIFA not happy.


    Mainly because they didn't think of it and haven't got a wedge of the pie.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited April 2021
    Check out the owners of the founding clubs:
    Middle East, China, UAE, Americans, Russian.

    Gary Neville sums it up ; Absolute greed with no understanding of the history of competitive football.

  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,982
    Football mirroring society in general atm.

    Those with power and money do what they like without consequence - and no one does anything to stop them.

    Accept your lot common man and move along.


  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,453
    Customers. Not Fans.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    edited April 2021
    I am feeling sorry for the proper football fans of these clubs. At least the heart and soul of our club will be here for the future. They know they are losing theirs to US, Russian corruption, Asian and Oil money. From a selfish perspective. When did we last play one of these clubs?
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,453
    edited April 2021
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    I am feeling sorry for the proper football fans of these clubs. At least the heart and soul of our club will be here for the future. They know they are losing theirs to US, Asian and Oil money. 
    Many Proper football fans of these clubs have been priced out of it for well over a decade If truth be told.

    What we are witnessing now is football finally disappearing up its own arsehole!
  • hudson-son-son
    hudson-son-son Posts: 2,645
    JoshrewCAFC said:
    Utter disgrace. Backing PSG in the Champions League now
    Same, but I'm pretty sure there is some other reason PSG aren't doing it because of some love for fans will be some other reason, saw it floated that it's related to the World Cup in Qatar and the closeness with FIFA because of that.

    Won't be long til Bayern join too, another scummy club. Hopefully Dortmund can at least be the one "big" team with a bit of backbone and genuine reasons for not joining, they seem the only hope.
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  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    What it will mean in the future is silly player wages will have to come down. 
  • Gary Poole
    Gary Poole Posts: 1,874
    If a coordinated group of pissed off Charlton fans could successfully get under the skin of a relatively low profile man in Belgium running a very stable business. Imagine what effect a co ordinated group of fans from across the nation could to to disrupt the personal and business interests of those who seek to ruin our game for their own financial gain.
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,445



    All the super league clubs have left the ECA. What happens to the Champions League and Europa league this season now? 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    If the Champions League continues and "lesser teams" win it, in the way that the likes of Forest, PSV, Red Star Belgrade and Celtic won the old European Cup, it might actually create a more interesting competition, rather than the closed shop of a Super League which could easily become monotonous

    Imagine a team like Leicester or Villa reaching the CL final, that would be far more of a story than Man U being in another Super League final.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited April 2021
    PSG will be announced as winners of the Champions League this season as the other 3 teams will be banned.

    Only Man City, United and Atletico Madrid out of the 12 founders haven't put on social media that they have joined the ESL. Expect them to do it in the morning.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,364
    killerandflash said:
    If the Champions League continues and "lesser teams" win it, in the way that the likes of Forest, PSV, Red Star Belgrade and Celtic won the old European Cup, it might actually create a more interesting competition, rather than the closed shop of a Super League which could easily become monotonous

    Imagine a team like Leicester or Villa reaching the CL final, that would be far more of a story than Man U being in another Super League final.
    I initially felt the same way on this. However, winning the CL will not necessarily be the achievement that it currently is without the best sides in the world. It would be the equivalent of winning what is currently the Europa League. There would always be that footnote on that victory.  
  • Gary Poole
    Gary Poole Posts: 1,874
    Imagine how passed off real Man City fans, who not so long ago were watching their team in the third tier will be when they are kicked out of the Champions League tomorrow, when they had a real chance of winning it.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,364
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    What it will mean in the future is silly player wages will have to come down. 
    Or, they'll just sign for Super League Clubs and probably get paid double what they currently get at the top level. 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,445
    killerandflash said:
    If the Champions League continues and "lesser teams" win it, in the way that the likes of Forest, PSV, Red Star Belgrade and Celtic won the old European Cup, it might actually create a more interesting competition, rather than the closed shop of a Super League which could easily become monotonous

    Imagine a team like Leicester or Villa reaching the CL final, that would be far more of a story than Man U being in another Super League final.
    Is the Papa Johns Trophy better than the FA Cup? 
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,453
    Said clubs should also be banned from buying players outside of the superleague.

    See how that works out.
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  • LawrieAbrahams
    LawrieAbrahams Posts: 3,779
    SELR_addicks said:



    All the super league clubs have left the ECA. What happens to the Champions League and Europa league this season now? 
    I have seen tweets that both competitions have been suspended.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    edited April 2021
    Could the Government (and Governments from other countries involved) bring in a law which protects football clubs from owners who effectively (by their actions) remove their clubs from domestic leagues? Something that would prevent them using the name and stadium and force them to sell.  

    Let's be honest, most of the fans don't want it. They were not consulted. The owners see an opportunity to line their pockets. Imagine Levy thinking he can pocket a big slice of the 3 billon and sell the club to a Saudi Prince. 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,445
    edited April 2021
    LawrieAbrahams said:
    SELR_addicks said:



    All the super league clubs have left the ECA. What happens to the Champions League and Europa league this season now? 
    I have seen tweets that both competitions have been suspended.




    Think a few unverified people jumped the gun. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    cafctom said:
    killerandflash said:
    If the Champions League continues and "lesser teams" win it, in the way that the likes of Forest, PSV, Red Star Belgrade and Celtic won the old European Cup, it might actually create a more interesting competition, rather than the closed shop of a Super League which could easily become monotonous

    Imagine a team like Leicester or Villa reaching the CL final, that would be far more of a story than Man U being in another Super League final.
    I initially felt the same way on this. However, winning the CL will not necessarily be the achievement that it currently is without the best sides in the world. It would be the equivalent of winning what is currently the Europa League. There would always be that footnote on that victory.  
    It won't be the same achievement, but it will be one more widely spread around, instead of being the monopoly of a tiny group of clubs

    Other than Bayern, the last non "Super League" club to win the CL was Porto in 2004
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,445



    The scale of UEFA's problem. Their viewing numbers will sink like a stone. 
  • Notts_Addick
    Notts_Addick Posts: 376
    Saw it said somewhere else and summed up my view, football is just consumed by greed. It will eventually destroy itself. All of these owners care not one jot about fans, or teams lower down the pyramid. And why would they? They are all owned by people who will never meet real fans and who probably don't have a clue about any other team not in the Premier League. It's an absolute irrelevance to them whether fans like it or not, or whether it affects other clubs negatively, as long as there making money from it then that's all that matters. Joel Glazer as vice chairman telling us what a great opportunity this is for football? Give me a break.

    I'd also point out that a lot of the criticism going round tonight is totally warranted, but let's not kid ourselves that many of those criticising are also driven by greed. I'd wager a bet that a lot of teams who will come out and criticise this will make a very quick U-turn if an offer gets extended to them to join.

    Fans of top level clubs have never been more at risk of becoming totally detached from their clubs than they are now. Where does this end? The way things are going I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if we saw top level teams re-locating from their home stadiums and playing in places like China, Qatar etc if it's more lucrative. You'll have teams in Manchester who maybe only play 25% of their home games in Manchester and play the rest elsewhere. 


    Not sure if others feel the same but over the last few months I've found myself getting more and more detached from top level football, at first I put it down to VAR as I honestly just can't abide it. But I was only thinking today if there was some kind of package that Sky or BT offered which meant I could forego Premier League matches and just pay for football league I'd probably take it. I find myself getting much more excited about lower league fixtures than I do Premier League games and I generally find them much more entertaining as well. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    I would like to see these clubs driven out of the country. Then we have our domestic leagues and hopefully their fans can form new clubs. Manchester United already have FC United.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,982
    edited April 2021
    If it’s all about money, which it patently is, then you watch as the dissenting voices suddenly become more circumspect in the coming days, probably after being told they’re being thrown a piece of the pie.

    Politicians to climb down from ‘disgrace’ to ‘we await the result of a review’ as the week goes on.

    Our world now exists in a terrifying integrity vaccum.
  • O-Randy-Hunt
    O-Randy-Hunt Posts: 10,631
    Do I have this correct. It's going to be a midweek competition with the clubs still playing in their respective leagues. So our 'big 6' carry on playing prem football aswell as the super league?
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,445
    O-Randy-Hunt said:
    Do I have this correct. It's going to be a midweek competition with the clubs still playing in their respective leagues. So our 'big 6' carry on playing prem football aswell as the super league?
    Only if they're allowed to by the Premier League. 

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