Drummers

i_b_b_o_r_g

Thought I'd start this rather than derail the guitar thread.

Starting teaching myself a couple of months ago using YouTube (Drumeo mainly with a couple of independent channels). Doing okay with a basic beat, but struggling to use anything other than the snare, high-hat and kick drum. Still made some noticable progress though..

https://youtu.be/zfBirrmLArc

https://youtu.be/8T-85IbmuxE

T_C_E

Started learning a couple of years back bought an alesiss electric kit. Sadly arthritis in my hands saw that end very enjoyable though, had a few lessons and was getting a beat out of it when it all ended.

SoundAsa£

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

Thought I'd start this rather than derail the guitar thread.

Starting teaching myself a couple of months ago using YouTube (Drumeo mainly with a couple of independent channels). Doing okay with a basic beat, but struggling to use anything other than the snare, high-hat and kick drum. Still made some noticable progress though..

https://youtu.be/zfBirrmLArc

https://youtu.be/8T-85IbmuxE

Anything to get yourself a one on one with Thomas at some point...........honestly, you’re so calculating. 😉😉😉

Wheresmeticket

What's the difference between a drummer and a drum machine?

You only have to punch information into a drum machine once.

man_at_milletts

I started having lessons with a professional drummer and he insists on using all the kit. Fair enough, he reckons too many drummers just concentrate on the hi-hat, snare and kick drum.

Been doing alright and got all both arms and feet going with the rhythm, until I broke my leg in May and haven't been able to use my left foot on the hi-hat.  Going back this week now it's almost fixed.

Would recommend lessons from somebody, he not only explains it all but gives you the tab/music and exercises combining all the kit.

Like @TCE I bought a second hand Alesis eleconic kit to practice on, but not really the same as a real drum kit, but it works.

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Our drummer often played a three piece. I'm a firm believer it's not what you got, it's what you do with it.

i_b_b_o_r_g

That's what she said

Garrymanilow

Get yourself a practice pad, makes a big difference being able to practice in little gaps in your day if you can. I'd also recommend not learning on an electric kit if possible, it doesn't provide that same real bounce you get off proper drum skins and you can develop a much stiffer stick technique if you're not careful

i_b_b_o_r_g

Been developing a stiffer stick since I was about 13

Garrymanilow

I knew that comment was on its way and I genuinely looked at my original post before I confirmed it for about a minute thinking 'I could write this a different way to avoid it' and decided not to

hawksmoor

Been drumming and gigging for years, drum lessons every week, and I could honestly get by with snare, hi-hat, bass drum, one crash and a ride, and a single pedal. But then I can play 16th note triplet doubles and 32nd note doubles on that pedal. It’s like Clyde Stubblefield, the great James Brown drummer, said, ‘I don’t know why Brown put all those toms on the kit, because we never used them.’

Chizz

You don't need anything more than a snare, a hi-hat and a kick drum. 

https://youtu.be/8P-y0mD442I 

hawksmoor

Nate Smith is a monster drummer. 16 inch bass drum too in that clip.

Garrymanilow

You don't need a lot of things on a drumkit but there's nothing wrong with having them if they work for you and your style. You don't need a china cymbal but they're great when used right. Personally I like playing with a four piece with a double pedal; gives you a bit of flexibility and variety and there's not really any style you can't play with that. After that it's up to you. I find myself a bit mystified by drummers with 15 different toms on a rack because I just don't think I'd ever get round to using half of them but you can just use what works for you.

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I need to get a new stool/throne. I've asked a few drummers and their general census has been to get a either Porkpie or Roc n Soc. Now, drums isn't my first instrument, so spending north of £250 on a seat is out of the question. it would be like me advising a guitartist who has only been playing a six months to go and buy a Mesa Boogie amp after their one from Argos broke.

I've looked online and the info out there is suprisingly unhelpful. Money is super tight, regardless though, I'm looking at £150 max.

Thanks in advance.

fat man on a moped

I've got one of these, nice and sturdy and well padded. Personal preference but I prefer the round seat. 

https://www.drumshop.co.uk/products/pearl-drum-throne-d-1000n

Some used ones on Ebay too

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fat man on a moped said:

I've got one of these, nice and sturdy and well padded. Personal preference but I prefer the round seat. 

https://www.drumshop.co.uk/products/pearl-drum-throne-d-1000n

Some used ones on Ebay too

Cheers, i think i've found one or one similar on eBsy for £76.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/226531693160?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=ni3t_jkvrri&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=Zm94Y5tjRvq&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

SoundAsa£

fat man on a moped said:

I've got one of these, nice and sturdy and well padded. Personal preference but I prefer the round seat. 

https://www.drumshop.co.uk/products/pearl-drum-throne-d-1000n

Some used ones on Ebay too

fat man on a drum stool

Blackheathen

I’ve mentioned this film before but I’m sure you drummer guys would enjoy “Whiplash”.  My heroes are Buddy Rich and Gene Kruper by the way.

Stefco

Garrymanilow said:

Get yourself a practice pad, makes a big difference being able to practice in little gaps in your day if you can. I'd also recommend not learning on an electric kit if possible, it doesn't provide that same real bounce you get off proper drum skins and you can develop a much stiffer stick technique if you're not careful

Even a practice pad isn't the same. Think of the electronic kit like a set of practice pads, the more often you get to practice, with your whole body, the better you will get.

Once I got my first electronic kit (Roland TD-6) 20+ years ago, my playing improved massively. Made me far better on an acoustic kit, Almost like I was playing on air

Sure, the ideal scenario would be to have an acoustic kit that you can practice on anytime, without fear of noise pollution, but electronic kits have improved massively.

I've been a drummer for close to 40 years & selling drums for close to 30, & getting to test all the different kits, & seeing the advancements first hand, there are some genuinely excellent electronic kits out there. A brand to look out for is EFnote. Absolutely superb! 

*Edit* - Sorry Garry, just seen when your post was made. (Still look out for EFnote though!) ;-)

Stig

So how's the drumming going @Gribbo?

Gribbo

Stig said:

So how's the drumming going @Gribbo?

Drum kit's still Frenchside atm, and I've moved back to the UK. Still keen though,  but have also recently been thinking about swapping disciplines and having a go at the piano. 

Stefco

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I need to get a new stool/throne. I've asked a few drummers and their general census has been to get a either Porkpie or Roc n Soc. Now, drums isn't my first instrument, so spending north of £250 on a seat is out of the question. it would be like me advising a guitartist who has only been playing a six months to go and buy a Mesa Boogie amp after their one from Argos broke.

I've looked online and the info out there is suprisingly unhelpful. Money is super tight, regardless though, I'm looking at £150 max.

Thanks in advance.

I would definitely go to a drum shop, if you can, & try some out.
Everyones arse is different, so one mans comfort, can be another mans pain.

Remember that you use the seat 100% of the time, so comfort & support is really important. There aren't too many seats at the cheaper end that genuinely offer that.

I've sold stuff to many players who go cheaper first, only to return sometime later, & get the seat that they should have done in the first place.

Drumming is a sport, ultimately, & if you were a sprinter, you wouldn't be comfortable in a pair of shoes that are too tight, or too big.

The D1000n is not a bad option at all (I actually have one myself) but again, if you can get to a shop, then it will be worth your while. (Make sure whatever you get has the threaded shaft. More stability & better for height adjustment)

I'm not sure of what shops are around in London, as I am now based in Aus', but there is a good one in Battersea, called Drumshack. Well worth a visit!

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Stefco said:

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I need to get a new stool/throne. I've asked a few drummers and their general census has been to get a either Porkpie or Roc n Soc. Now, drums isn't my first instrument, so spending north of £250 on a seat is out of the question. it would be like me advising a guitartist who has only been playing a six months to go and buy a Mesa Boogie amp after their one from Argos broke.

I've looked online and the info out there is suprisingly unhelpful. Money is super tight, regardless though, I'm looking at £150 max.

Thanks in advance.

I would definitely go to a drum shop, if you can, & try some out.
Everyones arse is different, so one mans comfort, can be another mans pain.

Remember that you use the seat 100% of the time, so comfort & support is really important. There aren't too many seats at the cheaper end that genuinely offer that.

I've sold stuff to many players who go cheaper first, only to return sometime later, & get the seat that they should have done in the first place.

Drumming is a sport, ultimately, & if you were a sprinter, you wouldn't be comfortable in a pair of shoes that are too tight, or too big.

The D1000n is not a bad option at all (I actually have one myself) but again, if you can get to a shop, then it will be worth your while. (Make sure whatever you get has the threaded shaft. More stability & better for height adjustment)

I'm not sure of what shops are around in London, as I am now based in Aus', but there is a good one in Battersea, called Drumshack. Well worth a visit!

Thanks for the advice. I don't spent loads of time playing the drums. It's more a necessity for songwriting and hopefully a live set next year.

Money is the key factor right now, basically- i don't have any. So hiking over to Battersea to try a shed load of drum stools feels like a lost battle.

Right now i have no drum stool, it's a story too boring even for Charlton Life. I'm having ro play my SPD-SX sitting on my bed and for the kit i'm using a dining room chair. My spine hates me right now.  So opting for this £76 seat feels like a no brainer.. The last throne i had was truly awful, like sitting on a tower of paint cans. 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/226531693160?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=ni3t_jkvrri&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=Zm94Y5tjRvq&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

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Sold now, i bet it was one of you lot.....