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Completely agree with Henderson, very overrated. How he is captain of that football club always baffles me 🤔North Lower Neil said:Mourinho's first Chelsea team too, mainly because both City and Liverpool have weaknesses at the back whereas some of the best teams in Premier League history were just quality back to front.
Liverpool had Lovren, Henderson and Origi in today for example, all bang average.0 -
Who in that team is World Class...?snowinberlin said:
You're telling me that Arsenal side with Henry, Bergkamp, Vieira, Pires, Ljungberg, Parlour, Campbell, Cole would be 2nd best to Man City?Chris_from_Sidcup said:
All 4 European finalists last season being from the premier league definitely proves your point.snowinberlin said:
Just shows how weak the premiership is, The Arsenal team of 03/04 or numerous Fergie sides are streets betterstockportaddick said:I was at Anfield today (perk of the job) and it will not be too long before teams start to realise Liverpool are there for the taking at times. With a bit more belief, Leicester could have done them a few weeks ago and the same today with Spurs. When they actually put their mind on attacking, they cut through Liverpools defense with ease at times.
That Arsenal side drew TWELVE games that season. Yeah they didn't lose but they became more focused on not losing, than trying to win games. Guardiola's Man City side would beat them.
OK that Arsenal team drew a few, did they lose at Norwich?
Who in that City team is world class?
Ermmm probably just Ederson, Fernandinho, Silva, De Bruyne, Sterling, Aguero....whilst top players like Laporte, Bernardo Silva, Jesus, Rodri etc
And yet you backed Arsenal up with Parlour and Ljungberg??!!3 -
ValleyGary said:
Who in that team is World Class...?snowinberlin said:
You're telling me that Arsenal side with Henry, Bergkamp, Vieira, Pires, Ljungberg, Parlour, Campbell, Cole would be 2nd best to Man City?Chris_from_Sidcup said:
All 4 European finalists last season being from the premier league definitely proves your point.snowinberlin said:
Just shows how weak the premiership is, The Arsenal team of 03/04 or numerous Fergie sides are streets betterstockportaddick said:I was at Anfield today (perk of the job) and it will not be too long before teams start to realise Liverpool are there for the taking at times. With a bit more belief, Leicester could have done them a few weeks ago and the same today with Spurs. When they actually put their mind on attacking, they cut through Liverpools defense with ease at times.
That Arsenal side drew TWELVE games that season. Yeah they didn't lose but they became more focused on not losing, than trying to win games. Guardiola's Man City side would beat them.
OK that Arsenal team drew a few, did they lose at Norwich?
Who in that City team is world class?
Ermmm probably just Ederson, Fernandinho, Silva, De Bruyne, Sterling, Aguero....whilst top players like Laporte, Bernardo Silva, Jesus, Rodri etc
And yet you backed Arsenal up with Parlour and Ljungberg??!!
In their prime the only Arsenal players out that list that would get in the Man City team are Henry, Bergkamp,Vieira and A.Cole0 -
Apparently according to The Guardian that the Southampton players have donated their weeks wages to Charity because of their pathetic performance against Leicester.0
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Yes they would be second best to a City side who got 198 points and 201 goals in 2 seasons. Whilst also winning the league cup twice and the FA Cup.snowinberlin said:
You're telling me that Arsenal side with Henry, Bergkamp, Vieira, Pires, Ljungberg, Parlour, Campbell, Cole would be 2nd best to Man City?Chris_from_Sidcup said:
All 4 European finalists last season being from the premier league definitely proves your point.snowinberlin said:
Just shows how weak the premiership is, The Arsenal team of 03/04 or numerous Fergie sides are streets betterstockportaddick said:I was at Anfield today (perk of the job) and it will not be too long before teams start to realise Liverpool are there for the taking at times. With a bit more belief, Leicester could have done them a few weeks ago and the same today with Spurs. When they actually put their mind on attacking, they cut through Liverpools defense with ease at times.
That Arsenal side drew TWELVE games that season. Yeah they didn't lose but they became more focused on not losing, than trying to win games. Guardiola's Man City side would beat them.
OK that Arsenal team drew a few, did they lose at Norwich?
Who in that City team is world class?
Not denying that Arsenal had a good side, because obviously they did, but not on City's level.
Ray Parlour! He wouldn't even have got on City's bench.0 -
But that brings it back to how weak the league isChris_from_Sidcup said:
Yes they would be second best to a City side who got 198 points and 201 goals in 2 seasons. Whilst also winning the league cup twice and the FA Cup.snowinberlin said:
You're telling me that Arsenal side with Henry, Bergkamp, Vieira, Pires, Ljungberg, Parlour, Campbell, Cole would be 2nd best to Man City?Chris_from_Sidcup said:
All 4 European finalists last season being from the premier league definitely proves your point.snowinberlin said:
Just shows how weak the premiership is, The Arsenal team of 03/04 or numerous Fergie sides are streets betterstockportaddick said:I was at Anfield today (perk of the job) and it will not be too long before teams start to realise Liverpool are there for the taking at times. With a bit more belief, Leicester could have done them a few weeks ago and the same today with Spurs. When they actually put their mind on attacking, they cut through Liverpools defense with ease at times.
That Arsenal side drew TWELVE games that season. Yeah they didn't lose but they became more focused on not losing, than trying to win games. Guardiola's Man City side would beat them.
OK that Arsenal team drew a few, did they lose at Norwich?
Who in that City team is world class?
Not denying that Arsenal had a good side, because obviously they did, but not on City's level.
Ray Parlour! He wouldn't even have got on City's bench.
The great Man Utd side that won the treble in 1999 only won the league with 79 points. Is this City side 20 odd points better or is the league weaker? My argument is the latter. If City are so much better why haven't they won the champions league? Just mopping up domestically.0 -
Liverpool won the Champions League and still couldn’t win the Prem.snowinberlin said:
But that brings it back to how weak the league isChris_from_Sidcup said:
Yes they would be second best to a City side who got 198 points and 201 goals in 2 seasons. Whilst also winning the league cup twice and the FA Cup.snowinberlin said:
You're telling me that Arsenal side with Henry, Bergkamp, Vieira, Pires, Ljungberg, Parlour, Campbell, Cole would be 2nd best to Man City?Chris_from_Sidcup said:
All 4 European finalists last season being from the premier league definitely proves your point.snowinberlin said:
Just shows how weak the premiership is, The Arsenal team of 03/04 or numerous Fergie sides are streets betterstockportaddick said:I was at Anfield today (perk of the job) and it will not be too long before teams start to realise Liverpool are there for the taking at times. With a bit more belief, Leicester could have done them a few weeks ago and the same today with Spurs. When they actually put their mind on attacking, they cut through Liverpools defense with ease at times.
That Arsenal side drew TWELVE games that season. Yeah they didn't lose but they became more focused on not losing, than trying to win games. Guardiola's Man City side would beat them.
OK that Arsenal team drew a few, did they lose at Norwich?
Who in that City team is world class?
Not denying that Arsenal had a good side, because obviously they did, but not on City's level.
Ray Parlour! He wouldn't even have got on City's bench.
The great Man Utd side that won the treble in 1999 only won the league with 79 points. Is this City side 20 odd points better or is the league weaker? My argument is the latter. If City are so much better why haven't they won the champions league? Just mopping up domestically.3 -
If only English clubs had won, or maybe even come runners up in any European competitions last year, then our league would look a lot stronger.snowinberlin said:
But that brings it back to how weak the league isChris_from_Sidcup said:
Yes they would be second best to a City side who got 198 points and 201 goals in 2 seasons. Whilst also winning the league cup twice and the FA Cup.snowinberlin said:
You're telling me that Arsenal side with Henry, Bergkamp, Vieira, Pires, Ljungberg, Parlour, Campbell, Cole would be 2nd best to Man City?Chris_from_Sidcup said:
All 4 European finalists last season being from the premier league definitely proves your point.snowinberlin said:
Just shows how weak the premiership is, The Arsenal team of 03/04 or numerous Fergie sides are streets betterstockportaddick said:I was at Anfield today (perk of the job) and it will not be too long before teams start to realise Liverpool are there for the taking at times. With a bit more belief, Leicester could have done them a few weeks ago and the same today with Spurs. When they actually put their mind on attacking, they cut through Liverpools defense with ease at times.
That Arsenal side drew TWELVE games that season. Yeah they didn't lose but they became more focused on not losing, than trying to win games. Guardiola's Man City side would beat them.
OK that Arsenal team drew a few, did they lose at Norwich?
Who in that City team is world class?
Not denying that Arsenal had a good side, because obviously they did, but not on City's level.
Ray Parlour! He wouldn't even have got on City's bench.
The great Man Utd side that won the treble in 1999 only won the league with 79 points. Is this City side 20 odd points better or is the league weaker? My argument is the latter. If City are so much better why haven't they won the champions league? Just mopping up domestically.
Proper WUM.1 -
In last seasons CL, English clubs knocked out:snowinberlin said:
But that brings it back to how weak the league isChris_from_Sidcup said:
Yes they would be second best to a City side who got 198 points and 201 goals in 2 seasons. Whilst also winning the league cup twice and the FA Cup.snowinberlin said:
You're telling me that Arsenal side with Henry, Bergkamp, Vieira, Pires, Ljungberg, Parlour, Campbell, Cole would be 2nd best to Man City?Chris_from_Sidcup said:
All 4 European finalists last season being from the premier league definitely proves your point.snowinberlin said:
Just shows how weak the premiership is, The Arsenal team of 03/04 or numerous Fergie sides are streets betterstockportaddick said:I was at Anfield today (perk of the job) and it will not be too long before teams start to realise Liverpool are there for the taking at times. With a bit more belief, Leicester could have done them a few weeks ago and the same today with Spurs. When they actually put their mind on attacking, they cut through Liverpools defense with ease at times.
That Arsenal side drew TWELVE games that season. Yeah they didn't lose but they became more focused on not losing, than trying to win games. Guardiola's Man City side would beat them.
OK that Arsenal team drew a few, did they lose at Norwich?
Who in that City team is world class?
Not denying that Arsenal had a good side, because obviously they did, but not on City's level.
Ray Parlour! He wouldn't even have got on City's bench.
The great Man Utd side that won the treble in 1999 only won the league with 79 points. Is this City side 20 odd points better or is the league weaker? My argument is the latter. If City are so much better why haven't they won the champions league? Just mopping up domestically.
Dortmund, PSG, Bayern, Barcelona, Porto and Ajax (who had destroyed Juve and Real).
Man City also beat Schalke 7-0.
Hardly a weak league.0 -
Not saying its weak, just weaker than previous seasons, sheff utd seem to be thriving with a pub team. 15 years ago theyd be playing for 4th bottom from the first game. Arsenal are top 4, they're an awful side, Chelsea are up there playing the kids.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
In last seasons CL, English clubs knocked out:snowinberlin said:
But that brings it back to how weak the league isChris_from_Sidcup said:
Yes they would be second best to a City side who got 198 points and 201 goals in 2 seasons. Whilst also winning the league cup twice and the FA Cup.snowinberlin said:
You're telling me that Arsenal side with Henry, Bergkamp, Vieira, Pires, Ljungberg, Parlour, Campbell, Cole would be 2nd best to Man City?Chris_from_Sidcup said:
All 4 European finalists last season being from the premier league definitely proves your point.snowinberlin said:
Just shows how weak the premiership is, The Arsenal team of 03/04 or numerous Fergie sides are streets betterstockportaddick said:I was at Anfield today (perk of the job) and it will not be too long before teams start to realise Liverpool are there for the taking at times. With a bit more belief, Leicester could have done them a few weeks ago and the same today with Spurs. When they actually put their mind on attacking, they cut through Liverpools defense with ease at times.
That Arsenal side drew TWELVE games that season. Yeah they didn't lose but they became more focused on not losing, than trying to win games. Guardiola's Man City side would beat them.
OK that Arsenal team drew a few, did they lose at Norwich?
Who in that City team is world class?
Not denying that Arsenal had a good side, because obviously they did, but not on City's level.
Ray Parlour! He wouldn't even have got on City's bench.
The great Man Utd side that won the treble in 1999 only won the league with 79 points. Is this City side 20 odd points better or is the league weaker? My argument is the latter. If City are so much better why haven't they won the champions league? Just mopping up domestically.
Dortmund, PSG, Bayern, Barcelona, Porto and Ajax (who had destroyed Juve and Real).
Man City also beat Schalke 7-0.
Hardly a weak league.0 - Sponsored links:
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I think Henderson is a top player for Liverpool and England.
Don't understand half of the hate he gets.1 -
The kids that just went to Amsterdam and won 1-0.snowinberlin said:
Not saying its weak, just weaker than previous seasons, sheff utd seem to be thriving with a pub team. 15 years ago theyd be playing for 4th bottom from the first game. Arsenal are top 4, they're an awful side, Chelsea are up there playing the kids.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
In last seasons CL, English clubs knocked out:snowinberlin said:
But that brings it back to how weak the league isChris_from_Sidcup said:
Yes they would be second best to a City side who got 198 points and 201 goals in 2 seasons. Whilst also winning the league cup twice and the FA Cup.snowinberlin said:
You're telling me that Arsenal side with Henry, Bergkamp, Vieira, Pires, Ljungberg, Parlour, Campbell, Cole would be 2nd best to Man City?Chris_from_Sidcup said:
All 4 European finalists last season being from the premier league definitely proves your point.snowinberlin said:
Just shows how weak the premiership is, The Arsenal team of 03/04 or numerous Fergie sides are streets betterstockportaddick said:I was at Anfield today (perk of the job) and it will not be too long before teams start to realise Liverpool are there for the taking at times. With a bit more belief, Leicester could have done them a few weeks ago and the same today with Spurs. When they actually put their mind on attacking, they cut through Liverpools defense with ease at times.
That Arsenal side drew TWELVE games that season. Yeah they didn't lose but they became more focused on not losing, than trying to win games. Guardiola's Man City side would beat them.
OK that Arsenal team drew a few, did they lose at Norwich?
Who in that City team is world class?
Not denying that Arsenal had a good side, because obviously they did, but not on City's level.
Ray Parlour! He wouldn't even have got on City's bench.
The great Man Utd side that won the treble in 1999 only won the league with 79 points. Is this City side 20 odd points better or is the league weaker? My argument is the latter. If City are so much better why haven't they won the champions league? Just mopping up domestically.
Dortmund, PSG, Bayern, Barcelona, Porto and Ajax (who had destroyed Juve and Real).
Man City also beat Schalke 7-0.
Hardly a weak league.
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went with a mate on a freebie to arsenal yesterday - my word what a waste of an afternoon we was sitting right near the virgins who are beyond sad black flares, shirts off and chanting, also sat next to me was a bloke with a liverpool jacket on ffs.
arsenal are just a banter club can understand xhaka reaction as it was a noticable jeer when he went off, but as a captain you cant behave like that.1 -
What are you basing this 'playing for 4th bottom' on? Your imagination? Any idea how much Shef Utd have spent since coming, they are competing on merit, european success shows the league is stronger than ever.snowinberlin said:
Not saying its weak, just weaker than previous seasons, sheff utd seem to be thriving with a pub team. 15 years ago theyd be playing for 4th bottom from the first game. Arsenal are top 4, they're an awful side, Chelsea are up there playing the kids.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
In last seasons CL, English clubs knocked out:snowinberlin said:
But that brings it back to how weak the league isChris_from_Sidcup said:
Yes they would be second best to a City side who got 198 points and 201 goals in 2 seasons. Whilst also winning the league cup twice and the FA Cup.snowinberlin said:
You're telling me that Arsenal side with Henry, Bergkamp, Vieira, Pires, Ljungberg, Parlour, Campbell, Cole would be 2nd best to Man City?Chris_from_Sidcup said:
All 4 European finalists last season being from the premier league definitely proves your point.snowinberlin said:
Just shows how weak the premiership is, The Arsenal team of 03/04 or numerous Fergie sides are streets betterstockportaddick said:I was at Anfield today (perk of the job) and it will not be too long before teams start to realise Liverpool are there for the taking at times. With a bit more belief, Leicester could have done them a few weeks ago and the same today with Spurs. When they actually put their mind on attacking, they cut through Liverpools defense with ease at times.
That Arsenal side drew TWELVE games that season. Yeah they didn't lose but they became more focused on not losing, than trying to win games. Guardiola's Man City side would beat them.
OK that Arsenal team drew a few, did they lose at Norwich?
Who in that City team is world class?
Not denying that Arsenal had a good side, because obviously they did, but not on City's level.
Ray Parlour! He wouldn't even have got on City's bench.
The great Man Utd side that won the treble in 1999 only won the league with 79 points. Is this City side 20 odd points better or is the league weaker? My argument is the latter. If City are so much better why haven't they won the champions league? Just mopping up domestically.
Dortmund, PSG, Bayern, Barcelona, Porto and Ajax (who had destroyed Juve and Real).
Man City also beat Schalke 7-0.
Hardly a weak league.0 -
It just means they're well managed and every player knows their role.snowinberlin said:
Not saying its weak, just weaker than previous seasons, sheff utd seem to be thriving with a pub team. 15 years ago theyd be playing for 4th bottom from the first game. Arsenal are top 4, they're an awful side, Chelsea are up there playing the kids.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
In last seasons CL, English clubs knocked out:snowinberlin said:
But that brings it back to how weak the league isChris_from_Sidcup said:
Yes they would be second best to a City side who got 198 points and 201 goals in 2 seasons. Whilst also winning the league cup twice and the FA Cup.snowinberlin said:
You're telling me that Arsenal side with Henry, Bergkamp, Vieira, Pires, Ljungberg, Parlour, Campbell, Cole would be 2nd best to Man City?Chris_from_Sidcup said:
All 4 European finalists last season being from the premier league definitely proves your point.snowinberlin said:
Just shows how weak the premiership is, The Arsenal team of 03/04 or numerous Fergie sides are streets betterstockportaddick said:I was at Anfield today (perk of the job) and it will not be too long before teams start to realise Liverpool are there for the taking at times. With a bit more belief, Leicester could have done them a few weeks ago and the same today with Spurs. When they actually put their mind on attacking, they cut through Liverpools defense with ease at times.
That Arsenal side drew TWELVE games that season. Yeah they didn't lose but they became more focused on not losing, than trying to win games. Guardiola's Man City side would beat them.
OK that Arsenal team drew a few, did they lose at Norwich?
Who in that City team is world class?
Not denying that Arsenal had a good side, because obviously they did, but not on City's level.
Ray Parlour! He wouldn't even have got on City's bench.
The great Man Utd side that won the treble in 1999 only won the league with 79 points. Is this City side 20 odd points better or is the league weaker? My argument is the latter. If City are so much better why haven't they won the champions league? Just mopping up domestically.
Dortmund, PSG, Bayern, Barcelona, Porto and Ajax (who had destroyed Juve and Real).
Man City also beat Schalke 7-0.
Hardly a weak league.
In comparison last season Fulham spent over 100m and got relegated.0 -
What about when Derby came up and got 11 points and only one win all season? If the standard was so much higher now, they get 0 points and lose 0-5 every week? This Sheff Utd side is light years ahead of that Derby side? really? I doubt it, I reckon the Derby team would sit comfortably mid table by todays standard4
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snowinberlin said:What about when Derby came up and got 11 points and only one win all season? If the standard was so much higher now, they get 0 points and lose 0-5 every week? This Sheff Utd side is light years ahead of that Derby side? really? I doubt it, I reckon the Derby team would sit comfortably mid table by todays standardState of that Derby County playing squad. Please stop.0
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Seriously Derby that season had Paul Jewell as Manager!!
Surely Chris Wilder since winning promotion with Northampton has shown he's the type of Manager who'll be successful1 -
WUM is WUMing.snowinberlin said:What about when Derby came up and got 11 points and only one win all season? If the standard was so much higher now, they get 0 points and lose 0-5 every week? This Sheff Utd side is light years ahead of that Derby side? really? I doubt it, I reckon the Derby team would sit comfortably mid table by todays standard
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Didn't he win promotion previously with Wigan?ForeverAddickted said:Seriously Derby that season had Paul Jewell as Manager!!
Surely Chris Wilder since winning promotion with Northampton has shown he's the type of Manager who'll be successful0 -
Yes because Wigan were the club he built
He inherited Derby0 -
To be fair, Palace are 6th which proves something weird has happened since last season and I think the Championship is now the stronger of the two divisionsStu_of_Kunming said:
What are you basing this 'playing for 4th bottom' on? Your imagination? Any idea how much Shef Utd have spent since coming, they are competing on merit, european success shows the league is stronger than ever.snowinberlin said:
Not saying its weak, just weaker than previous seasons, sheff utd seem to be thriving with a pub team. 15 years ago theyd be playing for 4th bottom from the first game. Arsenal are top 4, they're an awful side, Chelsea are up there playing the kids.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
In last seasons CL, English clubs knocked out:snowinberlin said:
But that brings it back to how weak the league isChris_from_Sidcup said:
Yes they would be second best to a City side who got 198 points and 201 goals in 2 seasons. Whilst also winning the league cup twice and the FA Cup.snowinberlin said:
You're telling me that Arsenal side with Henry, Bergkamp, Vieira, Pires, Ljungberg, Parlour, Campbell, Cole would be 2nd best to Man City?Chris_from_Sidcup said:
All 4 European finalists last season being from the premier league definitely proves your point.snowinberlin said:
Just shows how weak the premiership is, The Arsenal team of 03/04 or numerous Fergie sides are streets betterstockportaddick said:I was at Anfield today (perk of the job) and it will not be too long before teams start to realise Liverpool are there for the taking at times. With a bit more belief, Leicester could have done them a few weeks ago and the same today with Spurs. When they actually put their mind on attacking, they cut through Liverpools defense with ease at times.
That Arsenal side drew TWELVE games that season. Yeah they didn't lose but they became more focused on not losing, than trying to win games. Guardiola's Man City side would beat them.
OK that Arsenal team drew a few, did they lose at Norwich?
Who in that City team is world class?
Not denying that Arsenal had a good side, because obviously they did, but not on City's level.
Ray Parlour! He wouldn't even have got on City's bench.
The great Man Utd side that won the treble in 1999 only won the league with 79 points. Is this City side 20 odd points better or is the league weaker? My argument is the latter. If City are so much better why haven't they won the champions league? Just mopping up domestically.
Dortmund, PSG, Bayern, Barcelona, Porto and Ajax (who had destroyed Juve and Real).
Man City also beat Schalke 7-0.
Hardly a weak league.1 -
How does that make him a bad manager?ForeverAddickted said:Yes because Wigan were the club he built
He inherited Derby0 -
Thought Billy Davies was manager?ForeverAddickted said:Seriously Derby that season had Paul Jewell as Manager!!
Surely Chris Wilder since winning promotion with Northampton has shown he's the type of Manager who'll be successful0 -
Got sacked end of November that season.iaitch said:
Thought Billy Davies was manager?ForeverAddickted said:Seriously Derby that season had Paul Jewell as Manager!!
Surely Chris Wilder since winning promotion with Northampton has shown he's the type of Manager who'll be successful1 -
snowinberlin said:What about when Derby came up and got 11 points and only one win all season? If the standard was so much higher now, they get 0 points and lose 0-5 every week? This Sheff Utd side is light years ahead of that Derby side? really? I doubt it, I reckon the Derby team would sit comfortably mid table by todays standardSo just to be clear:. 12 years ago, Derby got the lowest points total in PL history. This proves that the league used to be stronger0
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Clinton Morrison saying Xhaka should apologise.
Why should he Arsenal fans havent apologised4 -
Regardless of subject matter, Clinton Morrison’s opinion can be disregarded. The man is an intelligence vacuum.0
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Of course. The other teams were so good Derby could only get 12 points.Powell Is Pleasant said:snowinberlin said:What about when Derby came up and got 11 points and only one win all season? If the standard was so much higher now, they get 0 points and lose 0-5 every week? This Sheff Utd side is light years ahead of that Derby side? really? I doubt it, I reckon the Derby team would sit comfortably mid table by todays standardSo just to be clear:. 12 years ago, Derby got the lowest points total in PL history. This proves that the league used to be strongerDefinitely not that Derby were so poor.Likewise last year the league was so poor that Liverpool got highest ever runner up points and Not because they were any good.1
