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Tinker’s cusses

Or should it be Tinker’s cuss’ ?

Anyway, following on from the informative explanation, are there any other sayings that people want origins of?

I’ll throw ‘Couldn’t give a monkey’s’ into the ring.  Is it rhyming slang?
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  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,026
    Monkey's Spank = Wank (can I say that nowadays?)
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,741
    “Cheap at half the price”.......this one never makes sense to me in the context in which it is used. 

    Seems to me like it it should be “Cheap at twice the price”?!?
  • You can’t have your cake and eat it. Why would you want cake you can’t eat?
  • redbuttle
    redbuttle Posts: 1,981
    “Cheap at half the price”.......this one never makes sense to me in the context in which it is used. 

    Seems to me like it it should be “Cheap at twice the price”?!?
    It's a piss take 
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,480
    edited April 2019
    Not enough room to swing a cat.
    Nothing whatsoever to do with cats.
    It’s yet another expression from the long list of Navy related ones.
    The cat being referred to is in fact, “the cat o’ nine tails.”
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    You can’t have your cake and eat it. Why would you want cake you can’t eat?
    You can't have your cake and eat it (too) is a popular English idiomatic proverb or figure of speech.[1] The proverb literally means "you cannot simultaneously retain your cake and eat it".
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,195
    Scoham said:
    You can’t have your cake and eat it. Why would you want cake you can’t eat?
    You can't have your cake and eat it (too) is a popular English idiomatic proverb or figure of speech.[1] The proverb literally means "you cannot simultaneously retain your cake and eat it".
    Thanks. I'm going to use this version from now on. 
  • CatAddick
    CatAddick Posts: 2,386
    Not enough room to swing a cat.
    Nothing whatsoever to do with cats.
    It’s yet another expression from the long list of Navy related ones.
    The cat being referred to is in fact, “the cat o’ nine tails.”
    I knew that one; but the Naval explanation of 'Brass Monkeys' never sounds right to me (is the co-efficient of expansion between brass and iron really that different?)
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,026
    You can’t have your cake and eat it. Why would you want cake you can’t eat?
    I believe we've gone round the houses (there's another one for you) on having your cake and eating it. You are absolutely right @thai malaysia addick, it should be "you can't eat your cake and have it", but at some point in history, someone who couldn't give a tinker's cuss for logic switched the words around, everybody followed suit (there's another one) and Bob's your uncle... (and onother). 

  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,026
    Not enough room to swing a cat.
    Nothing whatsoever to do with cats.
    It’s yet another expression from the long list of Navy related ones.
    The cat being referred to is in fact, “the cat o’ nine tails.”
    Or not. https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/no-room-to-swing-a-cat.html
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  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,846
    When you are struggling to find something - 'it's always the last place you look'.

    No shit Sherlock - you wouldn't find it and keep f*cking looking!
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,459
    I believe the word you are looking for to describe these kinds of sayings is 'Idioms'
  • This fun sentence takes on seven different meanings depending on which word is emphasized: 

    [I] never said she stole my money. — Someone else said it. 

    I [never] said she stole my money. — I didn't say it. 

    I never [said] she stole my money. — I only implied it. 

    I never said [she] stole my money. — I said someone did, not necessarily her. 

    I never said she [stole] my money. — I considered it borrowed. 

    I never said she stole [my] money. — Only that she stole money,  not necessarily my own. 

    I never said she stole my [money]. — She stole something of mine, not my money. 

    Discuss.

  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,164
    You can ‘sling your hook’ is it a reference to the Captain in Peter Pan?
  • addick05
    addick05 Posts: 2,348
    You can ‘sling your hook’ is it a reference to the Captain in Peter Pan?


    No! Think it MIGHT be another old naval term, possibly to do with rigging your hammock?

    I am standing by waiting be corrected.

  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,195
    addick05 said:
    You can ‘sling your hook’ is it a reference to the Captain in Peter Pan?


    No! Think it MIGHT be another old naval term, possibly to do with rigging your hammock?

    I am standing by waiting be corrected.

    So you're offering a definitive answer whilst suggesting it's probably wrong. 
    Come on mate, you can't simultaneously retain your cake whilst eating it. 
  • Vinnie V.
    Vinnie V. Posts: 1,509
    “Cheap at half the price”.......this one never makes sense to me in the context in which it is used. 

    Seems to me like it it should be “Cheap at twice the price”?!?
    The word cheap has changed meaning, it used to mean substandard. So really the saying is meaning it would still be crap at half the price. 
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,741
    Vinnie V. said:
    “Cheap at half the price”.......this one never makes sense to me in the context in which it is used. 

    Seems to me like it it should be “Cheap at twice the price”?!?
    The word cheap has changed meaning, it used to mean substandard. So really the saying is meaning it would still be crap at half the price. 
    Aaahhhhhh. Nice one. Cheers. 
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    "Just sell the club and fuck off" is an old Flemish saying meaning, just sell the Club and fuck off.
  • CatAddick
    CatAddick Posts: 2,386
    Addickted said:
    "Just sell the club and fuck off" is an old Flemish saying meaning, just sell the Club and fuck off.
    I think that's another one that has been corrupted over time.  I believe the original was "Just fuck off and sell the club"
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  • addick05 said:
    You can ‘sling your hook’ is it a reference to the Captain in Peter Pan?


    No! Think it MIGHT be another old naval term, possibly to do with rigging your hammock?

    I am standing by waiting be corrected.

    I used to think that chiropractors were useless, but I stand corrected.
  • Acab
    Acab Posts: 725
    Not enough room to swing a cat.
    Nothing whatsoever to do with cats.
    It’s yet another expression from the long list of Navy related ones.
    The cat being referred to is in fact, “the cat o’ nine tails.”
    Where is ‘the neck of the woods’?
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,480
    Enough is all you get.....?
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,480
    Stig said:
    Not enough room to swing a cat.
    Nothing whatsoever to do with cats.
    It’s yet another expression from the long list of Navy related ones.
    The cat being referred to is in fact, “the cat o’ nine tails.”
    Or not. https://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/no-room-to-swing-a-cat.html
    Belay your style of speech Mr Stig.....lest you’ll soon find yourself at the gratings where Her Majesty’s cat awaits to scratch your poxed back.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    There's an Elephant in the room.

    A jumbo problem which really should be dealt with. 

    Where did this idiom come from ?
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,480
    A silver cloud gathers no lining........?
  • Acab said:
    Not enough room to swing a cat.
    Nothing whatsoever to do with cats.
    It’s yet another expression from the long list of Navy related ones.
    The cat being referred to is in fact, “the cat o’ nine tails.”
    Where is ‘the neck of the woods’?
    Just below Chris's head.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,026
    There's an Elephant in the room.

    A jumbo problem which really should be dealt with. 

    Where did this idiom come from ?

    Don't know, but it was unheard if before QI now it's absolutely everywhere.
  • charltonkeston
    charltonkeston Posts: 7,365
    Not enough room to swing a cat.
    Nothing whatsoever to do with cats.
    It’s yet another expression from the long list of Navy related ones.
    The cat being referred to is in fact, “the cat o’ nine tails

    Another nautical saying, " Who's turn in the barrel." Apparently this refers to having to do an unpleasant job.

    In olden days they used to take turns in a barrel with a hole in it, due to the lack of women on ships.

  • “Cheap at half the price”.......this one never makes sense to me in the context in which it is used. 

    Seems to me like it it should be “Cheap at twice the price”?!?

    It's sarcstic i.e. it ain't cheap at all