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Samuel Smiths pubs ban phones

Good for business or not ?

I suggest not.

Samuel Smiths pubs have banned people from using phones, in an attempt to foster "social conversations". Various pubs across the country have been sent a memo making clear that people should not be allowed to use their phones or chat in the bar, and that if they wish to they should be directed outside in the same way as if they were smoking.

It follows a similar rule that saw swearing banned in the pubs. The strange rules are said to be enforced by the company's 73-year-old owner, who is rumoured to enter the pubs undercover to check that they are being kept to. The phone rule enforces a wide-ranging ban on phones and tablets, as well as including particular bans on "pictures of sport" and "music apps".

://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/samuel-smiths-pubs-ban-phones-to-protect-social-conversation/ar-BBVoN8s?li=BBoPWjQ
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  • sunbury-addick
    sunbury-addick Posts: 1,929
    If my phone rings when I am in the pub, the above is what I do - or, kill the call - good idea.
  • They do it in a lot of micropubs.  I think it's a good idea - if the call is that important go outside, if it's not leave it.  

    The odd text from the Mrs asking why you aren't home yet fine, but it's nice when people forget about their phones for a while.
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,156
    What is it about people who run chains of pubs thinking they should rule the world? :lol: 

    I like the idea BTW, just not sure how commercially successful it would be? What attracts me to Sam Smiths pubs is the decent quality ale and the good value that they offer. Like a chav free spoons...     
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,849
    Banning all use of phones, tablets and laptops seems crazy to me. You're on a long walk and fancy a quick pint and sit down to read Charlton Life, and this isn't allowed any more?
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,848
    I should like Sam Smiths pubs. They normally have character, prices are cheap, they don’t attract the chav market, they make their own beer, etc.

    But I just don’t like them. Can’t really put my finger on why not.
  • Boom
    Boom Posts: 1,680
    Off_it said:
    I should like Sam Smiths pubs. They normally have character, prices are cheap, they don’t attract the chav market, they make their own beer, etc.

    But I just don’t like them. Can’t really put my finger on why not.
    The lager”s shit
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,849
    Off_it said:
    I should like Sam Smiths pubs. They normally have character, prices are cheap, they don’t attract the chav market, they make their own beer, etc.

    But I just don’t like them. Can’t really put my finger on why not.
    I find the beer range really dull. The one cask ale is fine, but I like a range to choose from
  • JohnBoyUK
    JohnBoyUK Posts: 9,018
    Can I say I absolutely detest these pubs.  Never once had a decent pint in one and would avoid at all costs.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,026
    Off_it said:
    I should like Sam Smiths pubs. They normally have character, prices are cheap, they don’t attract the chav market, they make their own beer, etc.

    But I just don’t like them. Can’t really put my finger on why not.
    Maybe I'm not used to London prices, but I don't find them cheap. The only ones I ever go in are the Cittie of York and the Captain Kidd and I always think 'ouch'.

    As for banning phones and swearing, It seems like Humphrey Smith is setting himself up to be the second maddest pub chain owner in the country. I wouldn't want to be one of his staff trying to enforce that.
    "I'm sorry sir, but your not allowed to use your phone in here"
    "Fark off you carnt, I'm foning for a cab. Muppet."
  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    JohnBoyUK said:
    Can I say I absolutely detest these pubs.  Never once had a decent pint in one and would avoid at all costs.
    Their chocolate stout is phenomenal.
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  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,848
    Off_it said:
    I should like Sam Smiths pubs. They normally have character, prices are cheap, they don’t attract the chav market, they make their own beer, etc.

    But I just don’t like them. Can’t really put my finger on why not.
    I find the beer range really dull. The one cask ale is fine, but I like a range to choose from
    Dull. That’s what they are. Full stop. They’re dull pubs.

    Thanks for that. Was struggling to put my finger on it.
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    Bit like Sun In The Sands when it declared itself a "football free zone" during the Euros one year (was run by fat non sporting types, but who claimed to like rugby, you know the sort), was empty throughout the tournament 
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,349
    great idea
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    Bit like Sun In The Sands when it declared itself a "football free zone" during the Euros one year (was run by fat non sporting types, but who claimed to like rugby, you know the sort), was empty throughout the tournament 
    you sure they weren't just Scottish 
  • Hastingsaddick
    Hastingsaddick Posts: 4,079
    Off_it said:
    I should like Sam Smiths pubs. They normally have character, prices are cheap, they don’t attract the chav market, they make their own beer, etc.

    But I just don’t like them. Can’t really put my finger on why not.
    I find the beer range really dull. The one cask ale is fine, but I like a range to choose from
    Agree with that with regards to the cask ale....try some of their bottled beers.
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,968
    I can see the logic. I work away three or four days a week, and forgot my phone last week. Absolutely liberating. Will forget it again next week.
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    Bit like Sun In The Sands when it declared itself a "football free zone" during the Euros one year (was run by fat non sporting types, but who claimed to like rugby, you know the sort), was empty throughout the tournament 
    you sure they weren't just Scottish 
    Possibly, always wearing rugby tops though
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    Banning all use of phones, tablets and laptops seems crazy to me. You're on a long walk and fancy a quick pint and sit down to read Charlton Life, and this isn't allowed any more?
    I usually take a book to the pub...
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,848
    Banning all use of phones, tablets and laptops seems crazy to me. You're on a long walk and fancy a quick pint and sit down to read Charlton Life, and this isn't allowed any more?
    I usually take a book to the pub...
    That's what doesn't make sense about this "ban". You're allowed to sit there and read a book (or a paper), but you can't read a kindle or your phone?
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,849
    Off_it said:
    Banning all use of phones, tablets and laptops seems crazy to me. You're on a long walk and fancy a quick pint and sit down to read Charlton Life, and this isn't allowed any more?
    I usually take a book to the pub...
    That's what doesn't make sense about this "ban". You're allowed to sit there and read a book (or a paper), but you can't read a kindle or your phone?
    In future I'll hide my tablet inside a copy of Big Uns Monthly to get around the ban.
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  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,825
    How are you supposed to tell your wife, yes you did find it ok, no I’m not really enjoying myself, yes I’ve got my keys, no I won’t wake the kids, yes I’ll open the kitchen door if I bring food home, yes I was just about to leave but Pete has just bought me another beer, I’ll have to buy him another one back, yes I’m glad Strictly was good, yes it was a surprise that one got eliminated, yes Pete and Phil are fine, no I’m not sure because I haven’t actually asked them but they seem fine, yes it is busy tonight...
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 10,968
    How are you supposed to tell your wife, yes you did find it ok, no I’m not really enjoying myself, yes I’ve got my keys, no I won’t wake the kids, yes I’ll open the kitchen door if I bring food home, yes I was just about to leave but Pete has just bought me another beer, I’ll have to buy him another one back, yes I’m glad Strictly was good, yes it was a surprise that one got eliminated, yes Pete and Phil are fine, no I’m not sure because I haven’t actually asked them but they seem fine, yes it is busy tonight...
    Before you go out, say to her 'I'm going to the pub. See you later.'
    job done
  • Boom said:
    Off_it said:
    I should like Sam Smiths pubs. They normally have character, prices are cheap, they don’t attract the chav market, they make their own beer, etc.

    But I just don’t like them. Can’t really put my finger on why not.
    The lager”s shit
    What do they serve these days? They used to serve Ayinger Brau, which I thought was OK.

    Quite like the Sam Smiths pub on Marylebone High Street. Can't remember the name. Dark, plain wood paneled moody pub with a real fire last time I went.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,848
    Boom said:
    Off_it said:
    I should like Sam Smiths pubs. They normally have character, prices are cheap, they don’t attract the chav market, they make their own beer, etc.

    But I just don’t like them. Can’t really put my finger on why not.
    The lager”s shit
    What do they serve these days? They used to serve Ayinger Brau, which I thought was OK.

    Quite like the Sam Smiths pub on Marylebone High Street. Can't remember the name. Dark, plain wood paneled moody pub with a real fire last time I went.
    Angel in the Fields.

    The bar is in the window, which seems to block out the natural light and makes it all a bit .... dull.
  • Hastingsaddick
    Hastingsaddick Posts: 4,079
    Off_it said:
    Boom said:
    Off_it said:
    I should like Sam Smiths pubs. They normally have character, prices are cheap, they don’t attract the chav market, they make their own beer, etc.

    But I just don’t like them. Can’t really put my finger on why not.
    The lager”s shit
    What do they serve these days? They used to serve Ayinger Brau, which I thought was OK.

    Quite like the Sam Smiths pub on Marylebone High Street. Can't remember the name. Dark, plain wood paneled moody pub with a real fire last time I went.
    Angel in the Fields.

    The bar is in the window, which seems to block out the natural light and makes it all a bit .... dull.
    Popped in there the other week for a swift 1/2 while I was in the area.
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    How can a pub, which depends on people turning up and staying around for few hours, to make money, ban what is now an essential everyday harmless item? 

    Are they expecting their staff to tell Terry a 40 pint a week punter to not use his phone or get out?
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,371
    Blimey. A couple of big albums and number 1 singles, and all of a sudden he reckons he can have a say on pub culture. 
  • sunbury-addick
    sunbury-addick Posts: 1,929
    How can a pub, which depends on people turning up and staying around for few hours, to make money, ban what is now an essential everyday harmless item? 

    Are they expecting their staff to tell Terry a 40 pint a week punter to not use his phone or get out?
    How can a pub, which depends on people turning up and staying around for few hours, to make money, ban what is now an essential everyday harmless item? 

    Are they expecting their staff to tell Terry a 40 pint a week punter to not use his phone or get out?

    Suppose it is all about how annoying "Terry" is, and how loud while sitting at the bar

  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167
    In our pub we don't have a ban on phones but we do ask people to take or make calls in the corridor. Texting, surfing etc is fine and to ban it is just ridiculous. We have a fine of £1 for offenders (everyone gets one chance)  that goes into our Demelza tin. Polite notices explaining our policy are displayed. It can cause some amusement when a phone rings and someone goes to answer it before remembering. The funniest was when the local MP answered his on a very busy Friday night and the whole pub was in uproar, he soon paid up and has never offended again. The rule is 99.9% popular with our customers. 
     Again trying to ban swearing is crazy. How can you tell a fully grown adult that they can't swear? It's all about the volume and context, we don't allow loud swearing that can be heard above the general volume level nor would we allow people to sit there and consistently spout expletives in an aggressive manner and the C word receives a request to not repeat. 
     We don't have a TV so we are football free during major tournaments and this is very much appreciated by many and not just women. 
    As for Sam Smiths pubs, I used to love them but they don't do the ales they used to. The Rising Sun in Smithfield was a favourite in my City days.  
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Went in one yesterday, it was strange not being able to follow the game on twitter.  At one point an old fella bellowed across the pub "you can't flecking use your phone or swear in here love".