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Summer 2019 Transfer Rumours (ed. Pg 296 - Start of Deadline Day)
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I’m hoping (although it’s very unlikely) that we can bring in a goalkeeper, a left back, a right sided centre back, a defensive midfielder who can slot in at centre back if need be, a central midfielder, 2 attacking midfielders and 2 strikers.
GK - Amos
LB - Purrington
RCB - Lockyer
DM who can play centre back - Bielik
CM - Cullen
2 AMs - Williams, Oztumer
2 STs - Nketiah, Eaves
Of course that’s very unlikely and would probably require a takeover but I think that’s the ideal situation but also somewhat realistic3 -
I think JFC will signJoshAddick said:I’m hoping (although it’s very unlikely) that we can bring in a goalkeeper, a left back, a right sided centre back, a defensive midfielder who can slot in at centre back if need be, a central midfielder, 2 attacking midfielders and 2 strikers.
GK - Amos
LB - Purrington
RCB - Lockyer
DM who can play centre back - Bielik
CM - Cullen
2 AMs - Williams, Oztumer
2 STs - Nketiah, Eaves
Of course that’s very unlikely and would probably require a takeover but I think that’s the ideal situation but also somewhat realistic0 -
No problems from Dijksteel, talking about Bauer. SorryJoshAddick said:10 -
No way he'll get a gig anywhere else in the Championship.Henry Irving said:
I think JFC will signJoshAddick said:I’m hoping (although it’s very unlikely) that we can bring in a goalkeeper, a left back, a right sided centre back, a defensive midfielder who can slot in at centre back if need be, a central midfielder, 2 attacking midfielders and 2 strikers.
GK - Amos
LB - Purrington
RCB - Lockyer
DM who can play centre back - Bielik
CM - Cullen
2 AMs - Williams, Oztumer
2 STs - Nketiah, Eaves
Of course that’s very unlikely and would probably require a takeover but I think that’s the ideal situation but also somewhat realistic0 -
That’s providing JFC signs. If he doesn’t I think we’ll 2 more centre mids instead of one. I’m pretty sure JFC has accepted a 1 year contract with an offer to extend if he plays over 50% of our games this seasonHenry Irving said:
I think JFC will signJoshAddick said:I’m hoping (although it’s very unlikely) that we can bring in a goalkeeper, a left back, a right sided centre back, a defensive midfielder who can slot in at centre back if need be, a central midfielder, 2 attacking midfielders and 2 strikers.
GK - Amos
LB - Purrington
RCB - Lockyer
DM who can play centre back - Bielik
CM - Cullen
2 AMs - Williams, Oztumer
2 STs - Nketiah, Eaves
Of course that’s very unlikely and would probably require a takeover but I think that’s the ideal situation but also somewhat realistic0 -
Pearce is a great captain but is he championship standard now ?Covered End said:
I agree. A freak goal as Dillon said, due to lack of concentration in a big atmosphere.JamesSeed said:
That was a freak goal. He was absolutely outstanding all season, and watching highlights of the Premier League and The Championship, plenty of the keepers on display were making mistakes all over the shop. Happy to keep Dillon as number one myself, for long enough to see how he gets on at least.Covered End said:
I love Dillon, but anyone remember Sunderland's Wembley goal ?Leuth said:Why would there be any doubt about Phillips 'cutting it' in the Championship? How is it any different for goalkeepers? Surely that's the one position where you can tell how good someone is no matter what league they're in
Any doubt ?
Leuth said ANY doubt.
Yes even if it's 1% there must be a doubt the same as there must be a doubt with Amos, who bizarrely couldn't make Millwall's first team after being outstanding for us in L1.
I think there must be a doubt over many of our players who haven't played in The Championship.
Sarr had superb run of games but then hit the buffers in his last two games which were the biggest of the season. Will the Nabster get away with his cruyff turn when last man and a Derby striker closing him down.
Will Solly still have the ability to hold off Champ wide men this time around?
Will Page still be fit by September ?
Will Taylor get frustrated when no passes come his way for 30 minutes ?
Have Pratley's legs gone ?
Why did JFC leave Brighton when in Champ ? (Lack of game time)
A question mark about every single player including Lyle Taylor who at 29 has spent more time in the lower leagues and Scotland (same thing !)
That's why CL members stop saying underwhelmed and accept the status quo when we get players in. (or until the Aussies take over in 2020 and we bring players in from Perth glory fc.)
So big doubts about the whole squad as it stands, whether played in champ or not.
In Lee Bowyer we trust.4 -
Has Aribo seen Glasgow, makes Preston look like Hampstead, blah, blah, blah!!Oggy Red said:
A million a year ........ I bet Aribo feels like he's won the lottery.Callumcafc said:
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/4374845/rangers-joe-aribo-20k-a-week-deal/DA9 said:
There is no way on gods earth he would be getting 20k p/w at Rangers, not even sure morellos gets anything like thatCallumcafc said:It has to be a good sign that Aribo is waiting until Friday to meet with LB. That’s the mindset of a player who might be willing to stay if he gets the right offer.
Yes I’m straw clutching. Can’t see us offering even half of the 20k p/w he’d be rumoured to get at Rangers.
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No, it's just the average wage in The Championship and we did not offer it.Oggy Red said:
A million a year ........ I bet Aribo feels like he's won the lottery.Callumcafc said:
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/4374845/rangers-joe-aribo-20k-a-week-deal/DA9 said:
There is no way on gods earth he would be getting 20k p/w at Rangers, not even sure morellos gets anything like thatCallumcafc said:It has to be a good sign that Aribo is waiting until Friday to meet with LB. That’s the mindset of a player who might be willing to stay if he gets the right offer.
Yes I’m straw clutching. Can’t see us offering even half of the 20k p/w he’d be rumoured to get at Rangers.
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There's probably at least seven or eight teams who are not paying a player 25k a week0
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killerandflash said:
Slightly worrying that we had tried to get him to sign a new contract last season and that never happenedScoham said:
I agree - it's absolutely imperative that we persuade Dijksteel and Taylor to sign contract extensions before the start of the season. Once Anfernee demonstrates that he can cope in the Championship - which I'm convinced he will - other clubs will be all over him and his agent may well advise him to simply run his contract down.
You'd hope that Duchatelet might have learnt from what's happened with Aribo, although he's already told the world that he intends to run the club on a shoestring and isn't prepared to pay the market rate, so I don't expect him to modify his approach at all. Duchatelet's idiocy in withdrawing a contract offer from Joe last summer and then offering him 50% less has potentially cost the club (and, indeed, him) £3-5million.
https://www.msn.com/en-sg/sport/news/joe-aribo-heading-towards-charlton-athletic-door-with-bundesliga-in-his-sights-as-the-next-english-export/ar-BBQTFyr
Given that we only have 11 players under contract for next season, we're going to need to recruit at least the same again, including a number of loanees. The smallest budget in the league is a major handicap but at least we have top football men like Bowyer, Jacko and Gallen at the helm, as opposed to some of the clowns of yesteryear (even if little Tommy Driesen is squeaking away in the background).2 -
Just because it's an 'average' wage doesn't necessarily mean that's what a large number of Champ players are actually paid.Charlton_Stu said:There's probably at least seven or eight teams who are not paying a player 25k a week
Aston Villa reportedly paid out £73m on wages last season. And other big clubs recently relegated from the Prem are still paying out some huge contracts they've been saddled with from that time.
That's going to heavily distort the figures, compared to a significant number of clubs who manage on much smaller budgets without parachute payments or a sugar daddy.
Even within an individual club, there's going to be disparity between many of the squad players.
Their star striker is going to be paid far more than their reserve fullback.
For it to be truly meaningful, I believe that we have to have actual examples of individual contract, rather than some hypothetical 'average'.
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Be good if we have at least 11 players by the start of the season. Maybe LB and JJ as subs?0
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That's what i'm sort of saying the top eight are probably on very big wages, with the rest on a lot less, it was more of a reply to @NapaAddick who keeps saying it's the championship average.Oggy Red said:
Just because it's an 'average' wage doesn't necessarily mean that's what a large number of Champ players are actually paid.Charlton_Stu said:There's probably at least seven or eight teams who are not paying a player 25k a week
Aston Villa reportedly paid out £73m on wages last season. And other big clubs recently relegated from the Prem are still paying out some huge contracts they've been saddled with from that time.
That's going to heavily distort the figures, compared to a significant number of clubs who manage on much smaller budgets without parachute payments or a sugar daddy.
Even within an individual club, there's going to be disparity between many of the squad players.
Their star striker is going to be paid far more than their reserve fullback.
For it to be truly meaningful, I believe that we have to have actual examples of individual contract, rather than some hypothetical 'average'.1 -
Yes, and there are 7-8 teams whose average wage is twice that. Our wage bill last year was around £8M. We are getting £6M more in payments in the Championship. Given our losses (not including transfers-out) run £10M per year and we are capped at an average loss of £13M... this means if we push ALL the levers and lose the max (which RD would never do).... CAFC can spend £17M on wages. That would have ranked in the bottom-third of the Championship. The median wage bill in the Championship is way above our max possibility. Lots of others clubs pay £20k per week like it is going out of style.Charlton_Stu said:There's probably at least seven or eight teams who are not paying a player 25k a week
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Another Tony WattAthletico Charlton said:Ravel Morrison out of contract i think. A talented midfielder who has made some bad life choices in his early days.. if only we had a manager who could sympathise and improve him... no rumour just a name that popped into my head.0 -
Mate, paying big wages doesn't guarantee success, in fact it can ruin team spirit, i'd be happy with a squad of 20+ players who want to play for the club not the wage, this season is going to difficult but we can survive, Millwall have done it the last few years so we can with Bowyer and Jacko in charge.NapaAddick said:
Yes, and there are 7-8 teams whose average wage is twice that. Our wage bill last year was around £8M. We are getting £6M more in payments in the Championship. Given our losses (not including transfers-out) run £10M per year and we are capped at an average loss of £13M... this means if we push ALL the levers and lose the max (which RD would never do).... CAFC can spend £17M on wages. That would have ranked in the bottom-third of the Championship. The median wage bill in the Championship is way above our max possibility. Lots of others clubs pay £20k per week like it is going out of style.Charlton_Stu said:There's probably at least seven or eight teams who are not paying a player 25k a week4 -
Does not "guarantee success"... agree totally. But over the long-term, the clubs with the highest wage spend do better than those with the middle and those in the middle do better than those at the bottom. It's just the law of large numbers. Could we beat the odds this year? Totally! Are we likely to do that every year when we are among the smallest teams in the Championship in terms of ability to pay? Not likely. Now that Bowyer is back, and a sale is not that likely, imho, I hope to just enjoy the season for what it is and stay up. That would be a success to me at this point. I can worry about next year's lack of spending next year.
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With RD at the helm it will be a success if we avoid relegation next season.7
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Always puzzled me as to how we can lose so much money each yearYes, and there are 7-8 teams whose average wage is twice that. Our wage bill last year was around £8M. We are getting £6M more in payments in the Championship. Given our losses (not including transfers-out) run £10M per year and we are capped at an average loss of £13M... this means if we push ALL the levers and lose the max (which RD would never do).... CAFC can spend £17M on wages. That would have ranked in the bottom-third of the Championship. The median wage bill in the Championship is way above our max possibility. Lots of others clubs pay £20k per week like it is going out of style.0 -
You really need to see the distribution/min/max to see if a few teams are skewing the ‘average’. I’m guessing that the parachute teams have a significantly higher wage bill than the mid-table teams and massively higher than the paupersCharlton_Stu said:
That's what i'm sort of saying the top eight are probably on very big wages, with the rest on a lot less, it was more of a reply to @NapaAddick who keeps saying it's the championship average.Oggy Red said:
Just because it's an 'average' wage doesn't necessarily mean that's what a large number of Champ players are actually paid.Charlton_Stu said:There's probably at least seven or eight teams who are not paying a player 25k a week
Aston Villa reportedly paid out £73m on wages last season. And other big clubs recently relegated from the Prem are still paying out some huge contracts they've been saddled with from that time.
That's going to heavily distort the figures, compared to a significant number of clubs who manage on much smaller budgets without parachute payments or a sugar daddy.
Even within an individual club, there's going to be disparity between many of the squad players.
Their star striker is going to be paid far more than their reserve fullback.
For it to be truly meaningful, I believe that we have to have actual examples of individual contract, rather than some hypothetical 'average'.1 -
In addition, there will often be large discrepancies within clubs. Sarr will be on a lot more than Dijksteel for example.CatAddick said:
You really need to see the distribution/min/max to see if a few teams are skewing the ‘average’. I’m guessing that the parachute teams have a significantly higher wage bill than the mid-table teams and massively higher than the paupersCharlton_Stu said:
That's what i'm sort of saying the top eight are probably on very big wages, with the rest on a lot less, it was more of a reply to @NapaAddick who keeps saying it's the championship average.Oggy Red said:
Just because it's an 'average' wage doesn't necessarily mean that's what a large number of Champ players are actually paid.Charlton_Stu said:There's probably at least seven or eight teams who are not paying a player 25k a week
Aston Villa reportedly paid out £73m on wages last season. And other big clubs recently relegated from the Prem are still paying out some huge contracts they've been saddled with from that time.
That's going to heavily distort the figures, compared to a significant number of clubs who manage on much smaller budgets without parachute payments or a sugar daddy.
Even within an individual club, there's going to be disparity between many of the squad players.
Their star striker is going to be paid far more than their reserve fullback.
For it to be truly meaningful, I believe that we have to have actual examples of individual contract, rather than some hypothetical 'average'.0 -
Strikes me as his agent is doing his job and seeing where it ends upAthletico Charlton said:0 -
I am seriously crossing all fingers and toes that Joe Aribo becomes their Andy Delort.
If you search twitter their fan base is genuinely unbearable. They haven't got a clue about Joe and all they're doing is constantly gloating. If he goes I hope it's somewhere like Southampton3 -
We will see after Joe and Bowyer meet tomorrow1
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Looks like a Benfica fan thinks they might sign Aribo
https://twitter.com/grandmastersuck/status/1141727643739525120?s=21
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A couple of years ago, Airman reported that Sarr was our highest earner, on about £275k p.a.Henry Irving said:
In addition, there will often be large discrepancies within clubs. Sarr will be on a lot more than Dijksteel for example.CatAddick said:
You really need to see the distribution/min/max to see if a few teams are skewing the ‘average’. I’m guessing that the parachute teams have a significantly higher wage bill than the mid-table teams and massively higher than the paupersCharlton_Stu said:
That's what i'm sort of saying the top eight are probably on very big wages, with the rest on a lot less, it was more of a reply to @NapaAddick who keeps saying it's the championship average.Oggy Red said:
Just because it's an 'average' wage doesn't necessarily mean that's what a large number of Champ players are actually paid.Charlton_Stu said:There's probably at least seven or eight teams who are not paying a player 25k a week
Aston Villa reportedly paid out £73m on wages last season. And other big clubs recently relegated from the Prem are still paying out some huge contracts they've been saddled with from that time.
That's going to heavily distort the figures, compared to a significant number of clubs who manage on much smaller budgets without parachute payments or a sugar daddy.
Even within an individual club, there's going to be disparity between many of the squad players.
Their star striker is going to be paid far more than their reserve fullback.
For it to be truly meaningful, I believe that we have to have actual examples of individual contract, rather than some hypothetical 'average'.0 -
Honestly at this point it would be funny if he didn’t go to Rangers. Their fans on twitter are insufferable.Scoham said:Looks like a Benfica fan thinks they might sign Aribo
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George Edmondson is just the sort of player we should be going after, young and likely to go up in value significantly.Braziliance said:
I am seriously crossing all fingers and toes that Joe Aribo becomes their Andy Delort.
If you search twitter their fan base is genuinely unbearable. They haven't got a clue about Joe and all they're doing is constantly gloating. If he goes I hope it's somewhere like Southampton0
