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Summer 2019 Transfer Rumours (ed. Pg 296 - Start of Deadline Day)
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I used to have that problem but I solved it by only ever wearing plain black socks. Also has the advantage I can make a new pair out of odd socks.lolwray said:
... ask me ... what colour socks I am wearing and I won't have a clue1 -
Leuth and Athletico:- stop it!Athletico Charlton said:
Because you go on ... and on and on about how good Nabby Sarr is and he was absolutely dreadful for the first season he was with us. In fact his best game that season was worse than Sollys at LB last year as not only was technique and suitability bad but his heart was not in it either back then (fair play to him for turning it around but lets not re-write history)
Let us draw a line under this topic with the assessment:
--- Sarr used to be shit but is now wonderful
--- Solly used to be wonderful but is now shit
Agreed?2 -
Rumours only please.0
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Will we look to loan out Albie and George now? I would’ve said to keep them both before the deadline but we brought in so many midfielders that I struggle to see them both breaking the gameday eighteen.
Suspect we might want them to go to “local” clubs so I had a quick look through the League One options...
Gillingham
Southend
Wimbledon
Wycombe
Any good fits there? I liked the way Wycombe tried to play at the Valley last year. They might be good for Albie to develop with.0 -
Which match are you referring to?Leuth said:Solly covering at left-back last season was, I am sorry to say, one of the worst performances I've ever seen from a Charlton player, culminating in a ridiculous red-card tackle I think
There were times where I thought Solly did perfectly fine at LB, and would argue some of his better performances last year came there.
That said, it wasn't until Dijksteel was given more freedom to get forward at RB that I understood why I thought Solly looked decent at LB.
I always thought Solly didn't get forward much at RB the last two years for tactical reasons. I thought because we had such attacking left backs, he was meant to play deeper. I should have known better after the Walsall away game last year when Robinson brought Clarke over to the right to cover him.
The reason he doesn't get forward from RB much is a lot of his pace and agility have gone. I take no pleasure in saying that. We all know he's not the player he once was. But at LB it was telling that he only had to get to about the halfway line, cut inside, and pass. It was good for him because he didn't have to stretch his legs. There wasn't an expectation of barnstorming overlapping runs. When Dijksteel came in, you saw that we could have two attacking fullbacks as long as they had the athleticism and positional sense to get back (it took Dijksteel some time to adapt to the latter). But once he came in, our attack looked much more balanced.
RB remains a concern for me. Regardless of what you think of Solly, we know he's unlikely to play more than 30-35 games at best. Deji is quick and looks relatively tidy on the ball, not unlike Dijks when he started at RB (doesn't have the technical ability of Dijks), but I don't know how comfortable he is there. Sarpong looks a good option as a wingback, and he's going to be quite a player, but I don't think he has a League appearance yet, does he? I thought the Alberto Redondo link at the time seemed weird unless we felt we really couldn't rely on Solly. It now makes a lot more sense. I believe he's still a free agent. Definitely seems worth a trial. And given he's coming from Getafe B he'll probably have much lower wage demands than players playing in England.
None of this is to question Solly's commitment or defensive ability, nor how good of a servant he's been to the club. But he had a lot of injuries at an early age and it feels like they've caught up with him.1 -
Bowyer’s said we need a right back, I’m sure neither Solly or Oshilaja will be playing there all season.1
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Don't forget Crawley.Callumcafc said:Will we look to loan out Albie and George now? I would’ve said to keep them both before the deadline but we brought in so many midfielders that I struggle to see them both breaking the gameday eighteen.
Suspect we might want them to go to “local” clubs so I had a quick look through the League One options...
Gillingham
Southend
Wimbledon
Wycombe
Any good fits there? I liked the way Wycombe tried to play at the Valley last year. They might be good for Albie to develop with.2 -
Source??? 😂😂😂😂Henry Irving said:We're still after an out of contract full back I'm told on top of the two Israelis which are done.0 -
Will Bow want them to go to League 2?Weegie Addick said:
Don't forget Crawley.Callumcafc said:Will we look to loan out Albie and George now? I would’ve said to keep them both before the deadline but we brought in so many midfielders that I struggle to see them both breaking the gameday eighteen.
Suspect we might want them to go to “local” clubs so I had a quick look through the League One options...
Gillingham
Southend
Wimbledon
Wycombe
Any good fits there? I liked the way Wycombe tried to play at the Valley last year. They might be good for Albie to develop with.0 -
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Didn't do Karlan Ahearne (as was)-Grant any harm.Callumcafc said:
Will Bow want them to go to League 2?Weegie Addick said:
Don't forget Crawley.Callumcafc said:Will we look to loan out Albie and George now? I would’ve said to keep them both before the deadline but we brought in so many midfielders that I struggle to see them both breaking the gameday eighteen.
Suspect we might want them to go to “local” clubs so I had a quick look through the League One options...
Gillingham
Southend
Wimbledon
Wycombe
Any good fits there? I liked the way Wycombe tried to play at the Valley last year. They might be good for Albie to develop with.0 -
Do you have zero understanding of the rules?golfaddick said:PS .
IF Taylor does start playing up then we could still sell him before the end of the month.......to a L1 or L2 side.
Tell him Pompey or Ipswich have come for him - I'm sure he'll like another stint in L1.
Thats the stance I'd be taking IF he doesn't get his head done - but I'm sure he will & he will be back to his striking best.
You can't just sell a player.0 -
We were a League One club then thoughAethelstan said:
Didn't do Karlan Ahearne (as was)-Grant any harm.Callumcafc said:
Will Bow want them to go to League 2?Weegie Addick said:
Don't forget Crawley.Callumcafc said:Will we look to loan out Albie and George now? I would’ve said to keep them both before the deadline but we brought in so many midfielders that I struggle to see them both breaking the gameday eighteen.
Suspect we might want them to go to “local” clubs so I had a quick look through the League One options...
Gillingham
Southend
Wimbledon
Wycombe
Any good fits there? I liked the way Wycombe tried to play at the Valley last year. They might be good for Albie to develop with.
Dont really want any players on the fringes of the first team to drop more than a level below us - Wiredu on the other hand would probably benefit from a League Two loan1 -
Kewell’s not there any more so maybe not as much of an option, looked them up and they’ve had an Italian manager since last September.Weegie Addick said:
Don't forget Crawley.Callumcafc said:Will we look to loan out Albie and George now? I would’ve said to keep them both before the deadline but we brought in so many midfielders that I struggle to see them both breaking the gameday eighteen.
Suspect we might want them to go to “local” clubs so I had a quick look through the League One options...
Gillingham
Southend
Wimbledon
Wycombe
Any good fits there? I liked the way Wycombe tried to play at the Valley last year. They might be good for Albie to develop with.0 -
NoAethelstan said:
Leuth and Athletico:- stop it!Athletico Charlton said:
Because you go on ... and on and on about how good Nabby Sarr is and he was absolutely dreadful for the first season he was with us. In fact his best game that season was worse than Sollys at LB last year as not only was technique and suitability bad but his heart was not in it either back then (fair play to him for turning it around but lets not re-write history)
Let us draw a line under this topic with the assessment:
--- Sarr used to be shit but is now wonderful
--- Solly used to be wonderful but is now shit
Agreed?
Sarr poor, Solly OK1 -
Nothing to say to this, just wanted to make everyone scroll past it againAthletico Charlton said:
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Why? I've only seen about 200-300 Charlton games total, maybe (in person or on TV) - not many of those games have featured someone routinely losing the ball, getting skinned and then diving in two-footed when we're chasing the game against 10 menAthletico Charlton said:
Daft commentLeuth said:Solly covering at left-back last season was, I am sorry to say, one of the worst performances I've ever seen from a Charlton player, culminating in a ridiculous red-card tackle I think8 -
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Nothing to say to this, just wanted to make everyone scroll past it againAthletico Charlton said:
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Why? I've only seen about 200-300 Charlton games total, maybe (in person or on TV) - not many of those games have featured someone routinely losing the ball, getting skinned and then diving in two-footed when we're chasing the game against 10 menAthletico Charlton said:
Daft commentLeuth said:Solly covering at left-back last season was, I am sorry to say, one of the worst performances I've ever seen from a Charlton player, culminating in a ridiculous red-card tackle I think1 -
There’s still some strikers on frees in case. Will Keane scored a few in a poor Ipswich side. Gary Hooper is ok, Ross McCormack.
Balotelli has just done well for Marseille but not sure what his attitude is like these days? Could he do it on a wet Tuesday night?0 -
Imagine us signing Balotelli.1
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Eh....what rules...??Stu_of_Kunming said:
Do you have zero understanding of the rules?golfaddick said:PS .
IF Taylor does start playing up then we could still sell him before the end of the month.......to a L1 or L2 side.
Tell him Pompey or Ipswich have come for him - I'm sure he'll like another stint in L1.
Thats the stance I'd be taking IF he doesn't get his head done - but I'm sure he will & he will be back to his striking best.
You can't just sell a player.
Club A - "we'll give you £4m for Taylor"
CAFC - "done"
Club A then speaks to Taylor, offering him 2x what he is on now. Taylor leaves.
Not hard to understand & not sure what "rules" there are.0 -
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The transfer window has closed. We could LOAN Taylor to a league One or Two club. Not sell. We have also supposedly just knocked back near £4 million from Brentford for Taylor. Which League One Or Two club do you think could come remotely close to that.golfaddick said:
Eh....what rules...??Stu_of_Kunming said:
Do you have zero understanding of the rules?golfaddick said:PS .
IF Taylor does start playing up then we could still sell him before the end of the month.......to a L1 or L2 side.
Tell him Pompey or Ipswich have come for him - I'm sure he'll like another stint in L1.
Thats the stance I'd be taking IF he doesn't get his head done - but I'm sure he will & he will be back to his striking best.
You can't just sell a player.
Club A - "we'll give you £4m for Taylor"
CAFC - "done"
Club A then speaks to Taylor, offering him 2x what he is on now. Taylor leaves.
Not hard to understand & not sure what "rules" there are.0 -
You know, the rule that you can’t actually sell a player now.golfaddick said:
Eh....what rules...??Stu_of_Kunming said:
Do you have zero understanding of the rules?golfaddick said:PS .
IF Taylor does start playing up then we could still sell him before the end of the month.......to a L1 or L2 side.
Tell him Pompey or Ipswich have come for him - I'm sure he'll like another stint in L1.
Thats the stance I'd be taking IF he doesn't get his head done - but I'm sure he will & he will be back to his striking best.
You can't just sell a player.
Club A - "we'll give you £4m for Taylor"
CAFC - "done"
Club A then speaks to Taylor, offering him 2x what he is on now. Taylor leaves.
Not hard to understand & not sure what "rules" there are.0 -
You made it sound like a punishment, in reality he could just say no.golfaddick said:
Eh....what rules...??Stu_of_Kunming said:
Do you have zero understanding of the rules?golfaddick said:PS .
IF Taylor does start playing up then we could still sell him before the end of the month.......to a L1 or L2 side.
Tell him Pompey or Ipswich have come for him - I'm sure he'll like another stint in L1.
Thats the stance I'd be taking IF he doesn't get his head done - but I'm sure he will & he will be back to his striking best.
You can't just sell a player.
Club A - "we'll give you £4m for Taylor"
CAFC - "done"
Club A then speaks to Taylor, offering him 2x what he is on now. Taylor leaves.
Not hard to understand & not sure what "rules" there are.0 -
Expecting a right back to come in on a free, and maybe even another striker (not including Hemed). Doubt we will find a decent striker knocking around without a contract. If their is one Gallen will find him.1
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Polish Pete was signed to get networked to St Trinians.ForeverAddickted said:
What about players like Polish Pete who only get three minutes of Football or Christophe Lepoint who ran around as though he'd won a competition?Leuth said:
Why? I've only seen about 200-300 Charlton games total, maybe (in person or on TV) - not many of those games have featured someone routinely losing the ball, getting skinned and then diving in two-footed when we're chasing the game against 10 menAthletico Charlton said:
Daft commentLeuth said:Solly covering at left-back last season was, I am sorry to say, one of the worst performances I've ever seen from a Charlton player, culminating in a ridiculous red-card tackle I think0 -
AristonAthletico Charlton said:
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Why? I've only seen about 200-300 Charlton games total, maybe (in person or on TV) - not many of those games have featured someone routinely losing the ball, getting skinned and then diving in two-footed when we're chasing the game against 10 menAthletico Charlton said:
Daft commentLeuth said:Solly covering at left-back last season was, I am sorry to say, one of the worst performances I've ever seen from a Charlton player, culminating in a ridiculous red-card tackle I think0 -
She the one in Friends?0
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That’s Courtney Cox you idiot.iaitch said:She the one in Friends?0 -
Sorry, I thought League 1 & 2 clubs could still buy players, hence we could still sell them one of ours.ShootersHillGuru said:
The transfer window has closed. We could LOAN Taylor to a league One or Two club. Not sell. We have also supposedly just knocked back near £4 million from Brentford for Taylor. Which League One Or Two club do you think could come remotely close to that.golfaddick said:
Eh....what rules...??Stu_of_Kunming said:
Do you have zero understanding of the rules?golfaddick said:PS .
IF Taylor does start playing up then we could still sell him before the end of the month.......to a L1 or L2 side.
Tell him Pompey or Ipswich have come for him - I'm sure he'll like another stint in L1.
Thats the stance I'd be taking IF he doesn't get his head done - but I'm sure he will & he will be back to his striking best.
You can't just sell a player.
Club A - "we'll give you £4m for Taylor"
CAFC - "done"
Club A then speaks to Taylor, offering him 2x what he is on now. Taylor leaves.
Not hard to understand & not sure what "rules" there are.0 -
Cadiz are on the look out for a striker though...golfaddick said:
Sorry, I thought League 1 & 2 clubs could still buy players, hence we could still sell them one of ours.ShootersHillGuru said:
The transfer window has closed. We could LOAN Taylor to a league One or Two club. Not sell. We have also supposedly just knocked back near £4 million from Brentford for Taylor. Which League One Or Two club do you think could come remotely close to that.golfaddick said:
Eh....what rules...??Stu_of_Kunming said:
Do you have zero understanding of the rules?golfaddick said:PS .
IF Taylor does start playing up then we could still sell him before the end of the month.......to a L1 or L2 side.
Tell him Pompey or Ipswich have come for him - I'm sure he'll like another stint in L1.
Thats the stance I'd be taking IF he doesn't get his head done - but I'm sure he will & he will be back to his striking best.
You can't just sell a player.
Club A - "we'll give you £4m for Taylor"
CAFC - "done"
Club A then speaks to Taylor, offering him 2x what he is on now. Taylor leaves.
Not hard to understand & not sure what "rules" there are.1
