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Summer 2019 Transfer Rumours (ed. Pg 296 - Start of Deadline Day)
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palarsehater said:heard we are being linked with nahki wells scored 7 goals in 40 games for qpr last season!! really think we are scraping the barrel BUT who in there right mind would come to us, and we are reliant on loans and free agents.0
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I miss Bielik already.
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NapaAddick said:I miss Bielik already.4
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NapaAddick said:I miss Bielik already.
It was much improved on earlier in the season, when a Charlton fan ran on the pitch and kicked me in the bollocks.16 -
I got so much time for that guy. He showed nothing but respect for our club, staff and players. He got injured and came back better. He won MoM in probably the greatest day of our recent history.
Hopefully one day we can rid ourselves of this cock owner and make players like him our own. I hope he becomes a top top player.47 -
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Aethelstan said:roseandcrown said:
Currently we have two defenders for each position. Losing Dijksteel and moving Oshilaja across to right back would still leave us a defender short.
How do you know he was signed to play right back?
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Gutted about Bielik. I mean, we all knew him coming back was a <5% chance, but that interview, and his reaction after the play-off final shows that if we could've offered a competitive deal he 100% would be a Charlton player now. Reality is though, even if Roland was gone we'd have needed a new owner willing to throw big bucks at it for us to be paying that sort of money for a defensive midfielder.A permanent cult hero in my books though - will follow his career with interest, and wish him well.15
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Exiled_Addick said:Gutted about Bielik. I mean, we all knew him coming back was a <5% chance, but that interview, and his reaction after the play-off final shows that if we could've offered a competitive deal he 100% would be a Charlton player now. Reality is though, even if Roland was gone we'd have needed a new owner willing to throw big bucks at it for us to be paying that sort of money for a defensive midfielder.A permanent cult here in my books though - will follow his career with interest, and wish him well.3
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Football has properly lost its mind if a team unlikely to be promoted are paying about £10 million for a player.8
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10m is definitely overpaying for Bielek, as much as I rate him one good season in league one doesn't make a player worth 10m.t2
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killerandflash said:Exiled_Addick said:Gutted about Bielik. I mean, we all knew him coming back was a <5% chance, but that interview, and his reaction after the play-off final shows that if we could've offered a competitive deal he 100% would be a Charlton player now. Reality is though, even if Roland was gone we'd have needed a new owner willing to throw big bucks at it for us to be paying that sort of money for a defensive midfielder.A permanent cult here in my books though - will follow his career with interest, and wish him well.Agreed, in the fantasy world where we'd been a position to smash our transfer record this summer, there are probably other areas Bowyer would've prioritized spending the money.Market value or not, Derby have got themselves a very good player. Was possibly our best player last season, if maybe not quite as consistent as a couple of other, and, tellingly, particularly stood out as a cut above in games against the best sides - was immense, for example, vs Pompey and Luton at home.Will miss him.5
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Think this is probably nonsense, looks like it could be another of those fake journalist accounts:9
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Scoham said:Think this is probably nonsense, looks like it could be another of those fake journalist accounts:1
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Really can’t see why Dijksteel would sign a new contract. He’s already got Boro and Bristol City chasing him and if he doesn’t go now they are likely to be queuing round the block next summer. Not as if we are able to offer him a decent deal either. Anyway if there is 2m on the table Roland is going to take it.0
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Our glorious leader had not realised that if he doesn't up the budget by a decent portion of player sales, there will be no motivation for LB to sell anyone in contract. Will LdT have a handle on transfer matters, or Dreisden?
I guess LB expected to get some KAG money. Once bitten, twice shy.2 -
cfgs said:Football has properly lost its mind if a team unlikely to be promoted are paying about £10 million for a player.6
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Think Beleik is a snip # £10 mill personally.4
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carly burn said:Think Beleik is a snip # £10 mill personally.
It’s a lot of money, but it’s a good deal for Derby.1 - Sponsored links:
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Athletico Charlton said:cfgs said:Football has properly lost its mind if a team unlikely to be promoted are paying about £10 million for a player.
In relative terms, it’s about right. But of course, in reality, it’s ludicrous.3 -
Bielik will mature even more in a team who should be around the top 8 all season.
Will on occasions get caught on the ball but at 21 could still go far in the game. Only thing which makes this a gamble is he did have about 5 different short term Injuries over the season at Cafc. 6 if you include the kick in the bollocks by a fan.0 -
Ironically Arsenal have just sold their best CH and the ones they retain are mid-table Championship at best.1
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Bielik is an investment. He’ll be sold next summer for a profit.
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carly burn said:Think Beleik is a snip # £10 mill personally.0
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Swisdom said:Bielik is an investment. He’ll be sold next summer for a profit.Oh they will be selling alright. Fire sale, unless they are promoted.In 2016-17, Derby had a £23.3M operating loss, and offset that by selling off £16M in players. Their actual loss was £7.1M. But in 2017-18 they had a £29M operational loss and an actual loss of £25M. But they did a financial shenanigan where they sold the ground to themselves as another company and are claiming that they did so at a £40M profit. So magically..... they were profitable last year! Total bullshit. They are running on fumes, breaching FFP Rules to gain an advantage, and the FA should be punishing them for such crap.Excluding their magical sale of the ground to themselves, and estimating their loss for last season, their 3-year loss is approaching £60-70M, when they are not suppose to exceed £39M. But here they are, splashing out more cash and hoping to get promoted before fines and bans and point deductions can be imposed.It's one thing to get outspent by bigger clubs who generate more revenue. Its another to be cheated. I doubt they get promoted this season. I hope they go into Administration when the music stops. They and their moaning fans will get no pity from me. Screw em.11
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Dazzler21 said:carly burn said:Think Beleik is a snip # £10 mill personally.11
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NapaAddick said:Swisdom said:Bielik is an investment. He’ll be sold next summer for a profit.Oh they will be selling alright. Fire sale, unless they are promoted.In 2016-17, Derby had a £23.3M operating loss, and offset that by selling off £16M in players. Their actual loss was £7.1M. But in 2017-18 they had a £29M operational loss and an actual loss of £25M. But they did a financial shenanigan where they sold the ground to themselves as another company and are claiming that they did so at a £40M profit. So magically..... they were profitable last year! Total bullshit. They are running on fumes, breaching FFP Rules to gain an advantage, and the FA should be punishing them for such crap.Excluding their magical sale of the ground to themselves, and estimating their loss for last season, their 3-year loss is approaching £60-70M, when they are not suppose to exceed £39M. But here they are, splashing out more cash and hoping to get promoted before fines and bans and point deductions can be imposed.It's one thing to get outspent by bigger clubs who generate more revenue. Its another to be cheated. I doubt they get promoted this season. I hope they go into Administration when the music stops. They and their moaning fans will get no pity from me. Screw em.
This meant Derby could announce a yearly profit of over £14m. They are not in any danger of violating FFP in the near future.2 -
FFP rules are supposto count "relevant turnover" vs "relevant expenses." Clearly this is a ridiculous get around. Can't wait til ManC sells their stadium and training ground to themselves for £5,000,000,000 and then spends it on Galacticos without FFP breach. This is a farce. And the EFL and others are waking up a bit. I hope. But if not, and if more fans don't start calling this kind of crap out, those fans will be getting exactly what they deserve for their lack of diligence.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/sky-bet-championship-clubs-accused-of-selling-grounds-then-renting-them-back-to-exploit-ffp-rules-nd332mdzl
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If you can cheat your way around FFP rules and you don't get punished, there is no point having the rules.8