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England Cricket Team Summer 2019 -ICC World Cup and Ashes etc

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,851
    If it had chucked it down half an hour ago, it would have been a perfect day for England
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,338
    killerandflash said:
    If it had chucked it down half an hour ago all day, it would have been a perfect day for England

  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    Root scores 140 less than their no 4.
    I think we're about 130 behind.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,792
    Covered End said:
    Root lbw Hazlewood 71

    175-4
    And that is why Root averages 48 and Smith 66 and the former's conversion rate is 25% whereas the latter's is 50%.

    Is it a lack of concentration on Root's part and are all Smith's batting eccentricities and routines the reasons he stays at the crease?
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    Roy b Hazlewood 22

    196-5
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,851
    Roy bowled for a brisk 22. He's got all the shots, but not the defence
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    A number 11 would be embarrassed of roy’s Forward defensive. About a foot between his bat and pad.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,934
    DamoNorthStand said:
    Cue the collapse
    It was always gonna happen
  • superchrissypowell
    superchrissypowell Posts: 693
    Sigh. The pitch looks to have quickened up a bit, but a few soft wickets have gone quite quickly. Worrying times.
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    kentaddick said:
    What the fuck is Roy still doing in the team ffs 

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  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,316
    Fire the goddamned selectors 
  • AshBurton
    AshBurton Posts: 1,142
    I’m afraid Roy looked like a walking wicket from start to finish. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,792
    Roy will never ever be a Test batsman. We've sacrificed Denly at 4 to accommodate him but now is the time to ditch Roy and bring someone like Sibley in to open. 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    We still need 100 to avoid the follow on.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,355
    dodgy batting .. but also give the Aussies credit for some very persistent and consistent bowling
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,008
    200-5 bad light stopped play & probably now cop.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,792
    The really strange thing about Roy's dismissals are the number of times he seems to react, after he has been bowled, as if the ball in question was one of the greatest bowled of all time!
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,851
    Lincsaddick said:
    dodgy batting .. but also give the Aussies credit for some very persistent and consistent bowling
    The pace and hostility of Cummins today has rather shown up how Archer has bowled in this match. You hope that this is just a one off
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,679
    Addick Addict said:
    Roy will never ever be a Test batsman. We've sacrificed Denly at 4 to accommodate him but now is the time to ditch Roy and bring someone like Sibley in to open. 
    Roy will never be a test match batsman I agree. 
    He is a brilliant one day batsman. 
    But please don't kid yourself  that Denly  is any  better. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    Covered End said:
    We still need 100 to avoid the follow on.
    Very rarely nowdays are teams asked to bat again.....but then I think we will be 150/170 behind so it wont be an issue. 

    Got to fight for a draw now though.
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  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,792
    blackpool72 said:
    Addick Addict said:
    Roy will never ever be a Test batsman. We've sacrificed Denly at 4 to accommodate him but now is the time to ditch Roy and bring someone like Sibley in to open. 
    Roy will never be a test match batsman I agree. 
    He is a brilliant one day batsman. 
    But please don't kid yourself  that Denly  is any  better. 
    I'm not and have said that Denly probably isn't up to Test level. However, Roy definitely has never been and never will as evidenced by the 79 runs from 7 innings he has scored in this series.

    My objection was to moving Denly from a position where he made a meaningful contribution to a fantastic win to facilitate someone whose technique is never going to suddenly improve just because he has moved lower down the order. If he plays so far out in front of him up top he will still do so batting at 11. 

     
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,962
    I think we need to bat for two sessions tomorrow to save this test. I fear we won't last much longer than lunch and will be batting again before close of play chasing an impossible total. Can't see us batting out the final day especially as the forecast is good.
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    A shame what looked like a decent day for England became a bad one in the last hour or so.

    If we are to save this match it is absolutely imperative we avoid the follow on which is no formality with 98 needed, 5 wickets left, 3 of whom are not great against pace bowling and a new ball in just a few overs.

    Others have said they wouldn't enforce the follow on but England as a batting unit have the backbone of a British civil servant negotiating with the EU. The Aussies have a foot firmly on our throat just now and if I was skipper I'd keep it there.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,851
    LenGlover said:
    A shame what looked like a decent day for England became a bad one in the last hour or so.

    If we are to save this match it is absolutely imperative we avoid the follow on which is no formality with 98 needed, 5 wickets left, 3 of whom are not great against pace bowling and a new ball in just a few overs.

    Others have said they wouldn't enforce the follow on but England as a batting unit have the backbone of a British civil servant negotiating with the EU. The Aussies have a foot firmly on our throat just now and if I was skipper I'd keep it there.
    The Aussies don't have to worry about their bowlers being too tired for The Oval either, as they have Siddle and Pattinson to bring in if necessary
  • Addickted2TheReds
    Addickted2TheReds Posts: 7,736
    Roy has been accomodated for because he is one of "the boys" 

    To shunt Denly up the order after he had just made a score just to keep a friend in the side is fucking piss poor weak management. 

    Roy failed. Bring another opener in. Well, I say another, Roy never was one in the first place - neither is Denly.

    And Root is happy to sacrifice Denly, but when it's his time to bat? Nah, Overton can do it.

    I'm clearly speaking from a Kent perspective here, but also as an England fan. Whoever you support - this is clearly absolute bullshit management.  
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    edited September 2019
    Addickted2TheReds said:
    Roy has been accomodated for because he is one of "the boys" 

    To shunt Denly up the order after he had just made a score just to keep a friend in the side is fucking piss poor weak management. 

    Roy failed. Bring another opener in. Well, I say another, Roy never was one in the first place - neither is Denly.

    And Root is happy to sacrifice Denly, but when it's his time to bat? Nah, Overton can do it.

    I'm clearly speaking from a Kent perspective here, but also as an England fan. Whoever you support - this is clearly absolute bullshit management.  
    Michael Vaughan knows his cricket and overall I like him as a summariser.

    However Joe Root can do no wrong and if he (Root) came into the commentary box and urinated over Andrew Sampson's scorebook (or is it a laptop these days) Vaughan would still find an excuse for him! Same applies to Bairstow to a lesser extent.
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,738
    Laddick01 said:
    Here we go. Jason Roy 100 loading.
    I think you meant IMPloding......
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,316
    Only one England batsman has hit a ton today :)
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,851
    edited September 2019
    Leuth said:
    Only one England batsman has hit a ton today :)
    Wow. Moeen seems to have rediscovered his mojo. Good bowling figures too
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,316
    He just needs to have nothing in his head except the desire to attack the bowling. If he can bring that (lack of) mentality back to his four-day form he could well get back in the Test side. He'll have a few games to show what he can do and I think he'll tour.

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