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  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,633
    golfaddick said:
    Just do what we all did back in the day....leave after 5th form (year 11 now).

    What....can't go that anymore. Fecking stupid Labour party FORCING students to stay on in education for no good reason.....apart from massaging the unemployment figures.

    I left school in 1983 aged 16. Finished my last O level exam on the Wednesday & started work the following Monday. Already had a job in a bank lined up - had interviews that Easter & job offer in the May.

    Bloody bonkers making kids stay on when they have no desire or interest in learning. Yes they can get an apprenticeship or something but still need to go to college during that time too. 
    Labour left government in 2010, why hasn’t the strong & stable government since then changed it?
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    edited March 2019
    golfaddick said:
    Uboat said:
    golfaddick said:
    Just do what we all did back in the day....leave after 5th form (year 11 now).

    What....can't go that anymore. Fecking stupid Labour party FORCING students to stay on in education for no good reason.....apart from massaging the unemployment figures.

    I left school in 1983 aged 16. Finished my last O level exam on the Wednesday & started work the following Monday. Already had a job in a bank lined up - had interviews that Easter & job offer in the May.

    Bloody bonkers making kids stay on when they have no desire or interest in learning. Yes they can get an apprenticeship or something but still need to go to college during that time too. 
    No-one is forced to stay on at school, so cut out the poundshop Clarkson bollocks.
    After year 11 EVERYONE has to do another 2 years.......either study at a school or college or an apprenticeship (With at least 1 day spent at college). Not sure there are many apprenticeships around & the vast number of students stay on at school. 

     I thought that couldn't be true... But it is. I found this on GOV.UK:

    You can leave school on the last Friday in June if you’ll be 16 by the end of the summer holidays.
    You must then do one of the following until you’re 18:
    • stay in full-time education, for example at a college
    • spend 20 hours or more a week working or volunteering, while in part-time education or training

    Link

    What happens if you don't, they put you in prison? 
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,118
    I wonder what training would count, as doesn't all work involve some form of training?
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    The purpose of education for some might be work related, but education per se is not principally a preparation for employment.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    edited March 2019
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    I wonder what training would count, as doesn't all work involve some form of training?
    I read it to mean something with a qualification or certification at the end.
  • Crusty54
    Crusty54 Posts: 3,232
    Off_it said:
    Curb_It said:
    Off_it said:
    JaShea99 said:
    I think anything would be better than Crown Woods.
    You've obviously not been to have a look at the college on Shooters Hill then. The one that looks like a 60s built Hungarian prison.
    Are you dissing Eaglesfield?!
    I dunno, am I? 

    The college seemed to be made up of two parts. One was an old building that was probably nice when it was built - my guess in the 20s or 30s - but was just run down. The other looked like a bunker.

    If that is, or was, Eaglesfield then “yes”.

    but obviously the buildings are only one part of it. The teachers appeared to be much much worse. And bear in mind these are the ones deemed “normal” enough to represent the college at an open day!

    It's no longer Eaglesfield. Now Shooters Hill again. An Academy. Seems to specialise in hairdressing and catering. The old building opened in the 20s with the bunker was added in the 70s - built across a pond which is one of the problems with the building. 
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,846
    Chunes said:
    golfaddick said:
    Uboat said:
    golfaddick said:
    Just do what we all did back in the day....leave after 5th form (year 11 now).

    What....can't go that anymore. Fecking stupid Labour party FORCING students to stay on in education for no good reason.....apart from massaging the unemployment figures.

    I left school in 1983 aged 16. Finished my last O level exam on the Wednesday & started work the following Monday. Already had a job in a bank lined up - had interviews that Easter & job offer in the May.

    Bloody bonkers making kids stay on when they have no desire or interest in learning. Yes they can get an apprenticeship or something but still need to go to college during that time too. 
    No-one is forced to stay on at school, so cut out the poundshop Clarkson bollocks.
    After year 11 EVERYONE has to do another 2 years.......either study at a school or college or an apprenticeship (With at least 1 day spent at college). Not sure there are many apprenticeships around & the vast number of students stay on at school. 

     I thought that couldn't be true... But it is. I found this on GOV.UK:

    You can leave school on the last Friday in June if you’ll be 16 by the end of the summer holidays.
    You must then do one of the following until you’re 18:
    • stay in full-time education, for example at a college
    • spend 20 hours or more a week working or volunteering, while in part-time education or training

    Link

    What happens if you don't, they put you in prison? 
    The only definite action is that any child support payments are stopped. Other than that I do not believe it is enforced and ultimately, in law, it is the responsibility of the 16 year old to stay in education or training, not the parents.

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