Man stabbed to death on Surrey train
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A man who was stabbed to death on a train in Surrey was with his 14-year-old son at the time, police have said.
A manhunt is under way for the 51-year-old victim's killer, who fled from the train after the stabbing during a "vicious fight" on board the London-bound service.
The victim and the attacker had both boarded the train at the same station.
British Transport Police say they do not believe the pair were known to each other.
Supt Paul Langley said the teenager would have seen the killing.
"This would have been an horrific and hugely traumatic event to have witnessed and we are providing him with as much support as possible," he said.
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The Police have announced that they are looking for a young (sic) black man dressed all in Black and wearing white trainers, they emphasise that the public should not approach himclive said:A man who was stabbed to death on a train in Surrey was with his 14-year-old son at the time, police have said.
A manhunt is under way for the 51-year-old victim's killer, who fled from the train after the stabbing during a "vicious fight" on board the London-bound service.
The victim and the attacker had both boarded the train at the same station.
British Transport Police say they do not believe the pair were known to each other.
Supt Paul Langley said the teenager would have seen the killing.
"This would have been an horrific and hugely traumatic event to have witnessed and we are providing him with as much support as possible," he said.
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Just seen the 10 o'clock news. Victim was a 51 yr old man who's 14 yr old son was with him at the time & witnessed it all. Absolutely horrific. Scumbag who did it (apparently a black man aged 20-30) should be give life......which should mean life. 80 years. No parole. Ever.8
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RIP. Sounds like a mentally ill person. You don't just walk up to a stranger and stab them if you are sane! Very worrying if this is the case that these people can slip under the radar.0
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The should be given the earliest opportunity to plunge through a trap door with only a length of rope round his neck to stop his fall.golfaddick said:Just seen the 10 o'clock news. Victim was a 51 yr old man who's 14 yr old son was with him at the time & witnessed it all. Absolutely horrific. Scumbag who did it (apparently a black man aged 20-30) should be give life......which should mean life. 80 years. No parole. Ever.
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Terrifying.
Our eldest grandson is the same age as the poor lad who has not only lost his Dad but will never be able to forget what he witnessed whilst being helpless to prevent the outcome.
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Sounds like a fight (possibly following a disagreement/argument) rather than an unprovoked attack, which you would assume more likely from a mentally ill person scenario?!MuttleyCAFC said:RIP. Sounds like a mentally ill person. You don't just walk up to a stranger and stab them if you are sane! Very worrying if this is the case that these people can slip under the radar.
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Weird scenario this, not known to each other board a train and murdered inbetween boarding and the next stop !The Organiser said:
Sounds like a fight (possibly following a disagreement/argument) rather than an unprovoked attack, which you would assume more likely from a mentally ill person scenario?!MuttleyCAFC said:RIP. Sounds like a mentally ill person. You don't just walk up to a stranger and stab them if you are sane! Very worrying if this is the case that these people can slip under the radar.
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I've seen plenty of aggro between random people on trains. I'll bet it was started over something petty and ridiculous. Either way, RIP... utter tragedy. Can't imagine how the kid is feeling4
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Someone needs to get a f***** grip of this.
It is bloody shameful. When will it stop?2 -
When any knife crime is punished with a very long sentence. Carrying a knife = 5 years. Wounding with Intent = 20 years. Murder = life with no parole. Won't happen as we'd need loads more prisons.carly burn said:Someone needs to get a f***** grip of this.
It is bloody shameful. When will it stop?
I will get lambasted for this........but it is mainly young black men - esp in gangs. Sort that out & you're half way there.11 -
I'm not going to lambast you for having a view. But it's worth pointing out that this is one person in the middle of Surrey, on a Friday lunchtime. Starting from those facts, it's hard to see how anyone might draw the conclusion it's something to do with gangs.golfaddick said:
When any knife crime is punished with a very long sentence. Carrying a knife = 5 years. Wounding with Intent = 20 years. Murder = life with no parole. Won't happen as we'd need loads more prisons.carly burn said:Someone needs to get a f***** grip of this.
It is bloody shameful. When will it stop?
I will get lambasted for this........but it is mainly young black men - esp in gangs. Sort that out & you're half way there.
When more facts come to light, it may be that it's a fair conclusion. But it doesn't seem that way from what's known so far.
The perpetrator must be caught - no expense should be spared. And he must be charged with murder, surely. That way, if he's convicted, he will be sentenced to life.
We don't need people like that walking the streets.3 -
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Two arrests, one believed to be the suspect.1 -
Don’t know the details of this incident but I know that as I’ve got older I’ve learned to ‘withdraw myself’ when in public. Whether on the train, bus, in a pub, street etc.
So many times I want to offer an opinion ranging from minor things like people having their feet on seats or blasting music too loud, up to interfering and trying to mediate other peoples disagreements or telling a drunk or someone out of it to calm themselves, leave others alone etc.
I’ve done all the above in the past with mixed outcomes, but I don’t do any anymore. Quite simply I’m too afraid of the higher probabilities these days of where the potential worst case scenario could lead, and be too many other things in life that I value far higher.
So a few years ago I made the conscious decision to ensure i walk away, change carriage, keep quiet and not offer my opinion etc. I’ll always by instinct rush to help anyone in trouble but basically i do everything I can to avoid confrontation, even if in my heart I know I’m in the right.
At first I felt less of a man but I’ve learnt to be comfortable with it. I’ve simply too much I don’t want to lose at the hands of some idiot or what may turn out to be a psychopath. Because there seems to be an increased number of them around these days.
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I get really aggy on trains and if someone annoys me I usually let them know. This incident has made me think its completely not worth it. Too many wrongens, carrying too many weapons, with such little value for life. Keep yourself to yourself cos you don’t know who you could be arguing with.3
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Don’t know the details of this incident but I know that as I’ve got older I’ve learned to ‘withdraw myself’ when in public. Whether on the train, bus, in a pub, street etc.
So many times I want to offer an opinion ranging from minor things like people having their feet on seats or blasting music too loud, up to interfering and trying to mediate other peoples disagreements or telling a drunk or someone out of it to calm themselves, leave others alone etc.
I’ve done all the above in the past with mixed outcomes, but I don’t do any anymore. Quite simply I’m too afraid of the higher probabilities these days of where the potential worst case scenario could lead, and be too many other things in life that I value far higher.
So a few years ago I made the conscious decision to ensure i walk away, change carriage, keep quiet and not offer my opinion etc. I’ll always by instinct rush to help anyone in trouble but basically i do everything I can to avoid confrontation, even if in my heart I know I’m in the right.
At first I felt less of a man but I’ve learnt to be comfortable with it. I’ve simply too much I don’t want to lose at the hands of some idiot or what may turn out to be a psychopath. Because there seems to be an increased number of them around these days.
RIP to that poor bloke
A thing we are taught at martial arts is to disengage with any threat if possible. Walk away if you can.ValleyGary said:I get really aggy on trains and if someone annoys me I usually let them know. This incident has made me think its completely not worth it. Too many wrongens, carrying too many weapons, with such little value for life. Keep yourself to yourself cos you don’t know who you could be arguing with.
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Let’s not jump to conclusions and assumptions.MuttleyCAFC said:RIP. Sounds like a mentally ill person. You don't just walk up to a stranger and stab them if you are sane! Very worrying if this is the case that these people can slip under the radar.
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How many people with no gang involvement walk around with a knife, I wonder.Chizz said:
I'm not going to lambast you for having a view. But it's worth pointing out that this is one person in the middle of Surrey, on a Friday lunchtime. Starting from those facts, it's hard to see how anyone might draw the conclusion it's something to do with gangs.golfaddick said:
When any knife crime is punished with a very long sentence. Carrying a knife = 5 years. Wounding with Intent = 20 years. Murder = life with no parole. Won't happen as we'd need loads more prisons.carly burn said:Someone needs to get a f***** grip of this.
It is bloody shameful. When will it stop?
I will get lambasted for this........but it is mainly young black men - esp in gangs. Sort that out & you're half way there.
When more facts come to light, it may be that it's a fair conclusion. But it doesn't seem that way from what's known so far.
The perpetrator must be caught - no expense should be spared. And he must be charged with murder, surely. That way, if he's convicted, he will be sentenced to life.
We don't need people like that walking the streets.1 -
R.I.P. to the victim, and my thoughts are with his poor son, how will he get over what he saw? My sympathy to the whole family. One arrested believed to be the attacker, the other a woman for aiding his escape.0
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It's murder so in my eyes hang the twat, awful for the youngster who witnessed his dad being murdered.6
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Man arrested0
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See the thought police are out and about1
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A man has been arrestedi_b_b_o_r_g said:See the thought police are out and about
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Shocking murder - terrible for his son.0
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I meant on the thread, policing opinionshirty5 said:
A man has been arrestedi_b_b_o_r_g said:See the thought police are out and about
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My mate is a copper in Lewisham and he says young kids carry them now for self defence. A lot of the kids that carry them are not in gangs, are good kids and will do well at school but feel they have to carry them for fear of getting robbed or ambushed. They would never use the knife for anything else (to attack or mug someone).Stu_of_Kunming said:
How many people with no gang involvement walk around with a knife, I wonder.Chizz said:
I'm not going to lambast you for having a view. But it's worth pointing out that this is one person in the middle of Surrey, on a Friday lunchtime. Starting from those facts, it's hard to see how anyone might draw the conclusion it's something to do with gangs.golfaddick said:
When any knife crime is punished with a very long sentence. Carrying a knife = 5 years. Wounding with Intent = 20 years. Murder = life with no parole. Won't happen as we'd need loads more prisons.carly burn said:Someone needs to get a f***** grip of this.
It is bloody shameful. When will it stop?
I will get lambasted for this........but it is mainly young black men - esp in gangs. Sort that out & you're half way there.
When more facts come to light, it may be that it's a fair conclusion. But it doesn't seem that way from what's known so far.
The perpetrator must be caught - no expense should be spared. And he must be charged with murder, surely. That way, if he's convicted, he will be sentenced to life.
We don't need people like that walking the streets.
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Been the same on here for the last 12 yearsi_b_b_o_r_g said:
I meant on the thread, policing opinionshirty5 said:
A man has been arrestedi_b_b_o_r_g said:See the thought police are out and about
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