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Incident in Greenwich
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Covered End said:
Yes I saw it.palarsehater said:6 stabbings yesterday all in daylight and around the time kids are coming out school, did anyone catch 24 hours in police custody? - scary stuff the size of the knifes are killing not injuring people.
what a time to be alive.
If I were in charge I'd round up everyone carrying a knife without a valid reason.
Then I'd put them and their knives in an enormous locked area, perhaps the size of Greenwich Park and leave them to it.
I'd give it a few weeks and hopefully the problem would all be sorted
Two kids from each postcode, live broadcast, only the winner gets out alive.
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Yep, one at Forest Hill Station on Monday, school kids at leaving time.
I know there needs to be a number of structural changes in society to stop this in the long term, but I'm amazed there hasn't been any short term emergency legislation bumping up being caught with a knife to 10 years. Being caught stabbing someone with a knife but not fatally wounding them 25 years, murder, life imprisonment. Might not be that practical, but we do need something.6 -
Nowadays if you stab someone you will be told you're a naughty boy.
Kill someone and you will be told you're a very naughty boy.1 -
Meat wagon stationed outside Croydon McDonalds every day now at school kick out time. Rumours were they wanted to install a metal detector tooBaldybonce said:
The connection with school leaving time is what worries me. Woolwich town centre between 2.30 and 4 is not a nice place to be.palarsehater said:6 stabbings yesterday all in daylight and around the time kids are coming out school, did anyone catch 24 hours in police custody? - scary stuff the size of the knifes are killing not injuring people.
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we cant as a society just keep blaming the "tory cuts" however convenient that is, this is getting way out of hand and i genuinely fear for the younger generation i have cousins that hang around etc and wrong place wrong time and instead of a beating you end up dead.
bexleyheath broadway come kicking out time is ridiculous always kids fighting and police in a heavy presence0 -
I agree. Bexleyheath Broadway is a hell hole when the kids turn out. Was lively 20 years ago, but nothing like the atmosphere it is now.palarsehater said:we cant as a society just keep blaming the "tory cuts" however convenient that is, this is getting way out of hand and i genuinely fear for the younger generation i have cousins that hang around etc and wrong place wrong time and instead of a beating you end up dead.
bexleyheath broadway come kicking out time is ridiculous always kids fighting and police in a heavy presence
At the same time, my nieces/nephews and their friends are a lot more liberal than most of the people i knew and was at that age.
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Whilst not the whole story you can't ignore the major effects the cuts have had on this.palarsehater said:we cant as a society just keep blaming the "tory cuts" however convenient that is, this is getting way out of hand and i genuinely fear for the younger generation i have cousins that hang around etc and wrong place wrong time and instead of a beating you end up dead.
bexleyheath broadway come kicking out time is ridiculous always kids fighting and police in a heavy presence5 -
completely agree they cannot be ignored but to simply lie the blame of this type of cuntish behaviour on the closure of youth clubs, less police and single parent families is also completely ridiculous.iainment said:
Whilst not the whole story you can't ignore the major effects the cuts have had on this.palarsehater said:we cant as a society just keep blaming the "tory cuts" however convenient that is, this is getting way out of hand and i genuinely fear for the younger generation i have cousins that hang around etc and wrong place wrong time and instead of a beating you end up dead.
bexleyheath broadway come kicking out time is ridiculous always kids fighting and police in a heavy presence1 -
always used to be school on school fights, but this is punches etc and no one was that badly hurt - now knifes are used and its a sad state of affairs.ValleyGary said:
I agree. Bexleyheath Broadway is a hell hole when the kids turn out. Was lively 20 years ago, but nothing like the atmosphere it is now.palarsehater said:we cant as a society just keep blaming the "tory cuts" however convenient that is, this is getting way out of hand and i genuinely fear for the younger generation i have cousins that hang around etc and wrong place wrong time and instead of a beating you end up dead.
bexleyheath broadway come kicking out time is ridiculous always kids fighting and police in a heavy presence
At the same time, my nieces/nephews and their friends are a lot more liberal than most of the people i knew and was at that age.0 -
That's quite an easy one to answer. The results of said legislation would paint a very uncomfortable, additional, layer of figures that would be used, not to understand the reasons or catalysts, but to claim that the legislation was only introduced to target certain demographics of society.cabbles said:Yep, one at Forest Hill Station on Monday, school kids at leaving time.
I know there needs to be a number of structural changes in society to stop this in the long term, but I'm amazed there hasn't been any short term emergency legislation bumping up being caught with a knife to 10 years. Being caught stabbing someone with a knife but not fatally wounding them 25 years, murder, life imprisonment. Might not be that practical, but we do need something.
Similar has been played out on various debates over the years and it's one that will continue to only be discussed.5 - Sponsored links:
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Was it ever?Baldybonce said:
The connection with school leaving time is what worries me. Woolwich town centre between 2.30 and 4 is not a nice place to be.palarsehater said:6 stabbings yesterday all in daylight and around the time kids are coming out school, did anyone catch 24 hours in police custody? - scary stuff the size of the knifes are killing not injuring people.
what a time to be alive.
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They seem to have got a grip on the problem in Glasgow. They treated it as a 'not just a policing issue but a public health issue':
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-45572691
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-34609790
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I’d hope that if taken in context, people would look at any legislation enacted as being totallly inkeeping with a short term need to do something to try and stop this happening. For me, that frequency and ferocity at which these attacks now happen are in the same league as acid attacks, the only difference being the amount of fatalities.Big_Bad_World said:
That's quite an easy one to answer. The results of said legislation would paint a very uncomfortable, additional, layer of figures that would be used, not to understand the reasons or catalysts, but to claim that the legislation was only introduced to target certain demographics of society.cabbles said:Yep, one at Forest Hill Station on Monday, school kids at leaving time.
I know there needs to be a number of structural changes in society to stop this in the long term, but I'm amazed there hasn't been any short term emergency legislation bumping up being caught with a knife to 10 years. Being caught stabbing someone with a knife but not fatally wounding them 25 years, murder, life imprisonment. Might not be that practical, but we do need something.
Similar has been played out on various debates over the years and it's one that will continue to only be discussed.
it went beyond a national shame a long time ago. I’m all for hearing and introducing long term counter measures involving education, inclusion and money into policing. But I’m equally for what we have at our disposal to try and stop this now.
The knife epidemic is exactly the same as the shootings that go on in the U.S. I’m proud of our gun laws over here, but knives are doing just as much damage at the moment as shootings are (comparatively speaking). We needed to enact something yesterday. It can’t go on
if parties are worried about the political repercussions and how it plays out to those that are more liberally minded, I don’t see anyone rushing to condone Jacinda Arden when she banned assault rifles and tightened their gun laws. That was (among other things), great leadership.
i know assault rifles are very different, but a weapon is a weapon and a life lost is a life lost regardless of whether it’s one or several at one time
I personally wouldn’t attach any political leanings on this either way. Wouldn’t care if the legislation was put forward by Tory, UKIP or labour or the DUP. Just want some assertive short term sign something will be done9 -
It would seem older teens are grooming younger kids for a life of crime in Powis Street and Hare Street and around General Gordon Square.man_at_milletts said:
Was it ever?Baldybonce said:
The connection with school leaving time is what worries me. Woolwich town centre between 2.30 and 4 is not a nice place to be.palarsehater said:6 stabbings yesterday all in daylight and around the time kids are coming out school, did anyone catch 24 hours in police custody? - scary stuff the size of the knifes are killing not injuring people.
what a time to be alive.0 -
Is it not part and parcel of living in this great city?0
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My nephew was threatened with a knife back in August last year in Paddock Wood, apparently it has gone to court 3 times but each time it has been delayed. As a consequence my nephew quit his job in the October and rarely leaves the house. The bloke who did it, broad daylight and multiple witnesses, is still roaming the streets around his area. Absolutely pitiful state for our country to be in11
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sorry to hear this, this is what pisses me off - they single handedly ruin someones life by being a good nothing but the gallows tramp and get to roam free.Bigbadbozman said:My nephew was threatened with a knife back in August last year in Paddock Wood, apparently it has gone to court 3 times but each time it has been delayed. As a consequence my nephew quit his job in the October and rarely leaves the house. The bloke who did it, broad daylight and multiple witnesses, is still roaming the streets around his area. Absolutely pitiful state for our country to be in4 -
Meanwhile - https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-478377520
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Absolutely sickening.i_b_b_o_r_g said:Meanwhile - https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-47837752
4th time been caught with a knife.
Imprisoned for 8 months and out in less than 4.
Then celebrated on stage like a hero.1 -
Nothing will change until the black community get rid of their "bro's" & "hoods" type mentality. Disgusting that a criminal straight out of jail for serving time carrying a knife is hero worshiped. Nothing to do with austerity.9
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This is why it's a catch 22 problem.
If Police stop and search Black young folk, 13 to 30, they are said to be picking on them. Yet Black on Black knife crime whether Drug or gang related have been going up and getting worse over the last 30 years.
Then Drake treats this guy like a hero.
Show graphic pictures in primary schools of the dead youngsters of knife crimes. Ask black and mixed race film, TV, and sport stars to help to spread the word and give back to deter the next generation about the evils of knife crime and the gang and postcode wars.
May already be too late to expect a seismic change in attitudes of the 13 to 30 age group but to carry on like this is crazy.
PS, I know it's not just a black problem BUT the high percentage of black on black or mixed race don't lie.
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You’ve only gotta look at the response to the first tweet in that article criticising that singer. ‘Yeah but what about Jagger and drug culture. White people blah blah blah’. The blame culture needs eradicating, it’s always someone else’s fault.soapboxsam said:
This is why it's a catch 22 problem.
If Police stop and search Black young folk, 13 to 30, they are said to be picking on them. Yet Black on Black knife crime whether Drug or gang related have been going up and getting worse over the last 30 years.
Then Drake treats this guy like a hero.
Show graphic pictures in primary schools of the dead youngsters of knife crimes. Asked black and mixed race film, TV, and sport stars to help to spread the word and give back to deter the next generation about the evils of knife crime and the gang and postcode wars.
May already be too late to expect a seismic change in attitudes of the 13 to 30 age group but to carry on like this is crazy.
PS, I know it's not just a black problem BUT the high percentage of black on black or mixed race don't lie.7 -
Teenager shot dead in Hartville Rd Plumstead yesterday afternoon
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I know what the answer is, but it wouldn't go down well on here with all the lefty do gooders, so I'll keep it to myself.4
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Why don’t you track him down and punch his f’ing lights out?Bigbadbozman said:My nephew was threatened with a knife back in August last year in Paddock Wood, apparently it has gone to court 3 times but each time it has been delayed. As a consequence my nephew quit his job in the October and rarely leaves the house. The bloke who did it, broad daylight and multiple witnesses, is still roaming the streets around his area. Absolutely pitiful state for our country to be in0 -
Just reading the Secret Barrister book, he/she spills the beans on our criminal justice system and explains why so many cases keep getting delayed like this. One of those books everyone needs to read - bit of an eye openerBigbadbozman said:My nephew was threatened with a knife back in August last year in Paddock Wood, apparently it has gone to court 3 times but each time it has been delayed. As a consequence my nephew quit his job in the October and rarely leaves the house. The bloke who did it, broad daylight and multiple witnesses, is still roaming the streets around his area. Absolutely pitiful state for our country to be in4 -
Yup, definitely worth reading ... it’s a revelation for things like the above.PeakieRocket said:
Just reading the Secret Barrister book, he/she spills the beans on our criminal justice system and explains why so many cases keep getting delayed like this. One of those books everyone needs to read - bit of an eye openerBigbadbozman said:My nephew was threatened with a knife back in August last year in Paddock Wood, apparently it has gone to court 3 times but each time it has been delayed. As a consequence my nephew quit his job in the October and rarely leaves the house. The bloke who did it, broad daylight and multiple witnesses, is still roaming the streets around his area. Absolutely pitiful state for our country to be in1 -
Because he’ll probably get stabbed!SoundAsa£ said:
Why don’t you track him down and punch his f’ing lights out?Bigbadbozman said:My nephew was threatened with a knife back in August last year in Paddock Wood, apparently it has gone to court 3 times but each time it has been delayed. As a consequence my nephew quit his job in the October and rarely leaves the house. The bloke who did it, broad daylight and multiple witnesses, is still roaming the streets around his area. Absolutely pitiful state for our country to be in0 -
No you don’t know the answer.Hartleypete said:I know what the answer is, but it wouldn't go down well on here with all the lefty do gooders, so I'll keep it to myself.2 -
Not if you give him no chance to use a knife......there’s such a thing as a sucker punch when needed, he wouldn’t see it coming.se9addick said:
Because he’ll probably get stabbed!SoundAsa£ said:
Why don’t you track him down and punch his f’ing lights out?Bigbadbozman said:My nephew was threatened with a knife back in August last year in Paddock Wood, apparently it has gone to court 3 times but each time it has been delayed. As a consequence my nephew quit his job in the October and rarely leaves the house. The bloke who did it, broad daylight and multiple witnesses, is still roaming the streets around his area. Absolutely pitiful state for our country to be in0
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