Albie Morgan - diagnosed with type 1 diabetes (p63)

blackpool72

However we'll he plays for Blackpool cannot change the fact he was poor for us most of the time. 
I wish him well,  but I'm glad we moved him on especially with our latest signings 

Scoham

mendonca said:

Personally, am happy to see Albie doing well. Seem to be in the minority!

Happy to see him doing well, just don’t think he’s progressed from what he was doing here as he’s still being rotated between starting games and coming off the bench.

aliwibble

Dazzler21 said:

I hate zonal marking. With a passion. 

It's so much easier to man mark. Everyone has known responsibilities and you're less likely to get 4 blokes standing looking confused as they mark no one.

Unless those 4 blokes are our back 4, in which case I'm not sure it makes that much of a difference.

fenaddick

Thought it was worth saying how good he looked yesterday. Willing runners making consistent runs and he knew exactly how to find them. An assist and 4 chances created. His set piece delivery has vastly improved too. Really happy for him

NabySarr

fenaddick said:

Thought it was worth saying how good he looked yesterday. Willing runners making consistent runs and he knew exactly how to find them. An assist and 4 chances created. His set piece delivery has vastly improved too. Really happy for him

We often gave him the freedom of Blackpool on the ball, but he did look very good and was one of their better players yesterday 

Garrymanilow

When Albie was here he'd occasionally have a brilliant game and people would lose their minds about how great he could be and ask if he'd finally turned the corner. I remember the Plymouth game where we were in such total control he ended up getting shifted to right back and was still running the game from there. In the end though Plymouth won the league and we didn't win our next 8 games. Albie having a good game isn't anything new, Albie consistently playing like that would be a real progress and there's no evidence he's found that consistency at Blackpool either even if he has improved. Hope he gets there eventually

EveshamAddick

The fact that his dead ball delivery and goals tally have improved says it all about our coaching. 

Albie may not have the best footballing brain but he is a great striker of the ball and clearly Blackpool’s coaching has utilised this skill of his to improve kicks, corners and shots on target. 

Shame we couldn’t have done it with “one of our own” but it does explain the Charltonisation of players who turn to shit when they arrive at the Valley (too many to mention).

Scoham

Garrymanilow said:

When Albie was here he'd occasionally have a brilliant game and people would lose their minds about how great he could be and ask if he'd finally turned the corner. I remember the Plymouth game where we were in such total control he ended up getting shifted to right back and was still running the game from there. In the end though Plymouth won the league and we didn't win our next 8 games. Albie having a good game isn't anything new, Albie consistently playing like that would be a real progress and there's no evidence he's found that consistency at Blackpool either even if he has improved. Hope he gets there eventually

Agree, we’ll know he’s improved if he’s a regular in a team genuinely challenging for promotion. If he’s that good he’d likely play in the Championship, whether that’s with Blackpool after getting promoted or by moving to another club.

queensland_addick

Garrymanilow said:

When Albie was here he'd occasionally have a brilliant game and people would lose their minds about how great he could be and ask if he'd finally turned the corner. I remember the Plymouth game where we were in such total control he ended up getting shifted to right back and was still running the game from there. In the end though Plymouth won the league and we didn't win our next 8 games. Albie having a good game isn't anything new, Albie consistently playing like that would be a real progress and there's no evidence he's found that consistency at Blackpool either even if he has improved. Hope he gets there eventually

Consistency only comes with age and experience. We are too quick to dismiss talent and then give that talent away to our rivals, simply because we don't have the strength in depth to let them develop, and overplay them when they are in need of a break.

sam3110

But how long do you pay these so called young talents in the hope that they grow? 

Brownie12

fenaddick said:

Thought it was worth saying how good he looked yesterday. Willing runners making consistent runs and he knew exactly how to find them. An assist and 4 chances created. His set piece delivery has vastly improved too. Really happy for him

Sometimes it just needs the player to have a fresh start. New club, away from his local area, not knowing anybody etc, etc. 

MarcusH26

Brownie12 said:

fenaddick said:

Thought it was worth saying how good he looked yesterday. Willing runners making consistent runs and he knew exactly how to find them. An assist and 4 chances created. His set piece delivery has vastly improved too. Really happy for him

Sometimes it just needs the player to have a fresh start. New club, away from his local area, not knowing anybody etc, etc. 

This is ultimately what it came down to with Morgan, needed to get away from Charlton and find a new environment. Completely fresh start 

Scoham

queensland_addick said:

Garrymanilow said:

When Albie was here he'd occasionally have a brilliant game and people would lose their minds about how great he could be and ask if he'd finally turned the corner. I remember the Plymouth game where we were in such total control he ended up getting shifted to right back and was still running the game from there. In the end though Plymouth won the league and we didn't win our next 8 games. Albie having a good game isn't anything new, Albie consistently playing like that would be a real progress and there's no evidence he's found that consistency at Blackpool either even if he has improved. Hope he gets there eventually

Consistency only comes with age and experience. We are too quick to dismiss talent and then give that talent away to our rivals, simply because we don't have the strength in depth to let them develop, and overplay them when they are in need of a break.

Morgan’s about to turn 24 and played over 100 games for us. Who else have we let go too early and it’s turned out to be a mistake? There’s the odd example over the last decade but the bigger problem has been selling young talent too early because we need the money and aren’t progressing enough as a club to hold onto them.

blackpool72

Scoham said:

queensland_addick said:

Garrymanilow said:

When Albie was here he'd occasionally have a brilliant game and people would lose their minds about how great he could be and ask if he'd finally turned the corner. I remember the Plymouth game where we were in such total control he ended up getting shifted to right back and was still running the game from there. In the end though Plymouth won the league and we didn't win our next 8 games. Albie having a good game isn't anything new, Albie consistently playing like that would be a real progress and there's no evidence he's found that consistency at Blackpool either even if he has improved. Hope he gets there eventually

Consistency only comes with age and experience. We are too quick to dismiss talent and then give that talent away to our rivals, simply because we don't have the strength in depth to let them develop, and overplay them when they are in need of a break.

Morgan’s about to turn 24 and played over 100 games for us. Who else have we let go too early and it’s turned out to be a mistake? There’s the odd example over the last decade but the bigger problem has been selling young talent too early because we need the money and aren’t progressing enough as a club to hold onto them.

Releasing Morgan was not a mistake. 
Certain players play well at one club and are poor at another. 
Kermagant poor at Leicester,  great for us.

Lyle Taylor great for us ,poor for Forest.

Simon Francis is another example,  I could go on.

The fact is that Albie Morgan played over 100 games for Charlton and he never showed the sort of consistently to hold down a regular place and we released him 

How well he does at Blackpool is irrelevant. 

Scoham

blackpool72 said:

Scoham said:

queensland_addick said:

Garrymanilow said:

When Albie was here he'd occasionally have a brilliant game and people would lose their minds about how great he could be and ask if he'd finally turned the corner. I remember the Plymouth game where we were in such total control he ended up getting shifted to right back and was still running the game from there. In the end though Plymouth won the league and we didn't win our next 8 games. Albie having a good game isn't anything new, Albie consistently playing like that would be a real progress and there's no evidence he's found that consistency at Blackpool either even if he has improved. Hope he gets there eventually

Consistency only comes with age and experience. We are too quick to dismiss talent and then give that talent away to our rivals, simply because we don't have the strength in depth to let them develop, and overplay them when they are in need of a break.

Morgan’s about to turn 24 and played over 100 games for us. Who else have we let go too early and it’s turned out to be a mistake? There’s the odd example over the last decade but the bigger problem has been selling young talent too early because we need the money and aren’t progressing enough as a club to hold onto them.

Releasing Morgan was not a mistake. 
Certain players play well at one club and are poor at another. 
Kermagant poor at Leicester,  great for us.

Lyle Taylor great for us ,poor for Forest.

Simon Francis is another example,  I could go on.

The fact is that Albie Morgan played over 100 games for Charlton and he never showed the sort of consistently to hold down a regular place and we released him 

How well he does at Blackpool is irrelevant. 

I agree, I meant it was the right decision. I don’t think there are many others we didn’t give enough time to, those who stayed tended to be those who never nailed down a regular place because they weren’t good enough.

As you say he might do well elsewhere by getting a fresh start and finding the right club and manager.

esseffect

Realising Morgan was a mistake. Never set the world alight, but we had a player who cared and on his day was creative for us. 

We would be playing him over Fiorini and Watson for sure. Salary would have been chips as well.

killerandflash

Another tick for Morgan is that he never seems to get injured. His midfield replacements Taylor and Camara have hardly played this season.

Kips

Scoham said:

Morgan’s about to turn 24 and played over 100 games for us. Who else have we let go too early and it’s turned out to be a mistake? There’s the odd example over the last decade but the bigger problem has been selling young talent too early because we need the money and aren’t progressing enough as a club to hold onto them.

Paul bacon

Scoham

killerandflash said:

Another tick for Morgan is that he never seems to get injured. His midfield replacements Taylor and Camara have hardly played this season.

That’s an issue with recruitment though. It’s fine to release inconsistent players but we usually replace them with similar or worse, whether that’s ability or due to injury/fitness problems.

Dippenhall

Think it was at Burton away and as Allie was warming up as sub on the touch line a bunch of our knucklehead “fans” were hurling abuse at him . He’d had a few forgettable moments in previous games. His expression said it all, he was gutted and disgusted. Good luck to him he’s probably glad to be away.

ValleyBen

Not a professional club in the country who does not have that kind of fan though, good luck to Albie, truly hope it works out for him long term not just another short run of form as was so common for him here but similar to the Campbell situation if you are that deeply effected by a handful of morons you are unlikely to ever be mentally strong enough to make the most of your abilities. 

Scoham

https://x.com/cspvisualz/status/1837573579098956153?s=46&t=A-w3Eq0EWWpjMxring904Q

Said he wasn’t sad to be booed, it pushed him on.

J BLOCK

Scoham said:

https://x.com/cspvisualz/status/1837573579098956153?s=46&t=A-w3Eq0EWWpjMxring904Q

Said he wasn’t sad to be booed, it pushed him on.

Was only boo’d after he scored and celebrated infront of the covered end. Muggy behaviour.

se9addick

J BLOCK said:

Scoham said:

https://x.com/cspvisualz/status/1837573579098956153?s=46&t=A-w3Eq0EWWpjMxring904Q

Said he wasn’t sad to be booed, it pushed him on.

Was only boo’d after he scored and celebrated infront of the covered end. Muggy behaviour.

Really? I used to give him a bit of stick when he played for us (he was pony) so it’s fair enough for him to give a bit back when the tables turn.

He’s making a better career for himself up there than I thought he would so fair play to him, hope he succeeds and continues to prove me wrong. 

SELR_addicks

Yeah if clearly you weren't particularly liked while you were playing for the team, I don't mind the player then celebrating a goal against us. 

I don't miss Morgan one bit so who cares. 

Henry Irving

J BLOCK said:

Scoham said:

https://x.com/cspvisualz/status/1837573579098956153?s=46&t=A-w3Eq0EWWpjMxring904Q

Said he wasn’t sad to be booed, it pushed him on.

Was only boo’d after he scored and celebrated infront of the covered end. Muggy behaviour.

Celebrated his goal at the end he scored, he didn't run to the Covered End, if anything it was to the lower West. Nothing muggy at all 

Took his goal well and had a very good game and after having been released by us he had every right to celebrate.

Glad to see him thriving, just a shame it was against us 

Scoham

Quite a few ex players commenting on his instagram post, some of them giving back to fans giving them abuse. Mostly between Lyle Taylor and fans of course.

https://www.instagram.com/p/DAMOqx9okxD/?igsh=N3FncXFmam4zOGMw

redman

He got a good reception before the game. I don't blame for celebrating. However he could have gone infield to celebrate with him teammates rather than run directly in front of our fans. Disappointing 

Chunes

Of course some fans were annoyed. Why wouldn't they be? It's like football isn't allowed to be theatre anymore, it's got to be a sanitised corporate event. Like all reactions have to factor in external variables and be crafted into a balanced view. The tribalism, the intensity and the drama that made it electric is just stripped away. Now these genuine reactions are considered too much - as if you should watch and support your team from an emotional distance. As if to say: 'So what if the ex-player celebrated in front of the home end? We should understand it from his point-of-view. And good for him!' Good grief. Let football be football.

killerandflash

redman said:

He got a good reception before the game. I don't blame for celebrating. However he could have gone infield to celebrate with him teammates rather than run directly in front of our fans. Disappointing 

Agreed. He got a good round of applause before the game, and wasn't booed during the game before the goal, so thought the celebration slightly OTT.