Boris is a highly intelligent man who plays a role that too many people fall for.
The ‘bumbling idiot’ act is just that; an act.
He uses it to pretend that his risible and provocative behaviour is all innocent errors and jest and far too many people fall for it.
What Abbott's excuse then?
I’m not a big fan of her. I don’t think she is the person to represent Labour on the front bench. I don’t think she is particularly bright or has the required nous and intellect for such a role.
She has views I don’t agree with and I would not support if she were in government.
However, she is clearly a very successful constituency MP judging by the views of those who keep voting her in and the margins of her victories.
But as I have said before she is nowhere near the worst and my worry is that as a woman (under represented in British politics) and black (under represented in British politics) it is her who is subjected to far more personal abuse than white male politicians.
Leaves a bad taste when there are others in more prominent and powerful positions who openly lie to parliament, promote policies that are oppressive and have their intentional and deliberate divisive decisions quickly forgotten or glossed over by their media pals.
As said before maybe people should dig deeper to find out about others but then they may have to accept stuff they don’t want to see.
Yes I understand that if you don’t want to read a thread or see the relevance to it then don’t open it.
However, there are many more politicians who all the adjectives used to describe Diane Abbott, also fit that I am not sure why she has been singled out. She is certainly not the most racist, dimmest, or dishonest politician out there at the moment.
Look deeper than what the right wing media present and do some proper investigation and analysis of other high profile politicians and their voting records, dodgy affiliations and broken promises and you’ll see such behaviours is rife at all levels of politics and life in general.
This thread engendered over 140 comments in about 170 minutes. I am less inclined to read it as to measure it.
The relentless quality of such numbers depresses me, and makes me wonder if a thread about that complete and utter c*nt of the first order, Boris Johnson, would have got so many so excited so quickly.
Johnson is a complete and utter c*nt as you put it for sure.
The difference is that, unlike Labour, he has no pretensions of representing anyone except Boris Johnson. In that sense what you see is what you get.
Labour politicians pretend to represent the ordinary people but in reality hold them in sneering contempt. The last Labour Prime Minister referred to an elderly voter asking questions about immigration as a 'bigot' when he thought the microphones had been switched off.
Many would argue that Labour's hypocrisy is worse than Tory c****ishness as that is what you expect and deserve if you vote Tory. Therefore Abbott gets the flak because she exemplifies and has exemplified that hypocrisy in so many ways.
My view is a plague on both their houses. I feel thoroughly disenfranchised and am probably not alone.
So we got Abbott and Thornberry, then there's the shadow Chancellor, who still displays a “H-Block Martyrs” plaque in his office. Hardly someone fit enough to be 2nd in charge of the British government is it?
Says he from France. Hardly someone fit enough to comment on Britain. You gave up your right to an input when you emigrated.
What a ridiculous comment. I also live abroad, doesn't mean i can't think (or comment) that Abbott is a complete fucking idiot.
Not to mention that if you were a registered voter (as i was) then Brits living abroad can vote in elections for up to 15 years after they've left the UK.
I don't think anyone should have the vote here if they don't live here. Especially if they don't pay taxes here. You move, you're gone.
So we got Abbott and Thornberry, then there's the shadow Chancellor, who still displays a “H-Block Martyrs” plaque in his office. Hardly someone fit enough to be 2nd in charge of the British government is it?
Says he from France. Hardly someone fit enough to comment on Britain. You gave up your right to an input when you emigrated.
What a ridiculous comment. I also live abroad, doesn't mean i can't think (or comment) that Abbott is a complete fucking idiot.
Not to mention that if you were a registered voter (as i was) then Brits living abroad can vote in elections for up to 15 years after they've left the UK.
I don't think anyone should have the vote here if they don't live here. Especially if they don't pay taxes here. You move, you're gone.
I think I'm more within my rights to have an opinion on UK politics, than I am to have an opinion on French politics.
So we got Abbott and Thornberry, then there's the shadow Chancellor, who still displays a “H-Block Martyrs” plaque in his office. Hardly someone fit enough to be 2nd in charge of the British government is it?
Says he from France. Hardly someone fit enough to comment on Britain. You gave up your right to an input when you emigrated.
What a ridiculous comment. I also live abroad, doesn't mean i can't think (or comment) that Abbott is a complete fucking idiot.
Not to mention that if you were a registered voter (as i was) then Brits living abroad can vote in elections for up to 15 years after they've left the UK.
I don't think anyone should have the vote here if they don't live here. Especially if they don't pay taxes here. You move, you're gone.
"You gave up your right to an input when you emigrated"
So we got Abbott and Thornberry, then there's the shadow Chancellor, who still displays a “H-Block Martyrs” plaque in his office. Hardly someone fit enough to be 2nd in charge of the British government is it?
Says he from France. Hardly someone fit enough to comment on Britain. You gave up your right to an input when you emigrated.
What a ridiculous comment. I also live abroad, doesn't mean i can't think (or comment) that Abbott is a complete fucking idiot.
Not to mention that if you were a registered voter (as i was) then Brits living abroad can vote in elections for up to 15 years after they've left the UK.
I don't think anyone should have the vote here if they don't live here. Especially if they don't pay taxes here. You move, you're gone.
"You gave up your right to an input when you emigrated"
What absolute ignorant nonsense.
If you leave why should you have the right to influence what happens to those who stay?
So we got Abbott and Thornberry, then there's the shadow Chancellor, who still displays a “H-Block Martyrs” plaque in his office. Hardly someone fit enough to be 2nd in charge of the British government is it?
Says he from France. Hardly someone fit enough to comment on Britain. You gave up your right to an input when you emigrated.
What a ridiculous comment. I also live abroad, doesn't mean i can't think (or comment) that Abbott is a complete fucking idiot.
Not to mention that if you were a registered voter (as i was) then Brits living abroad can vote in elections for up to 15 years after they've left the UK.
I don't think anyone should have the vote here if they don't live here. Especially if they don't pay taxes here. You move, you're gone.
"You gave up your right to an input when you emigrated"
What absolute ignorant nonsense.
If you leave why should you have the right to influence what happens to those who stay?
I've never really liked Diane Abbott. I think she is incompetent. That said, I do admire her as a trailblazer in many regards (first black woman MP etc), and she does not warrant the frankly staggering amount of racist abuse she gets.
However, her comments about Mao are completely inexcusable. Not to delve too far into my family history, but my grandfather's internment absolutely broke him. He was a government employee, too, when he was incarcerated - and then was essentially made to sift through pig shit or something similar for several years, until such time as he was magically restored to the head of his household and former job/similar.
To harbour even half a notion that Mao did more good than harm is ignorant at best and, well, dangerously racist at worst. (Abbott is probably nearer on the ignorance scale tbf, but still, that she is Shadow Home and thinks that - fucking hell.)
So we got Abbott and Thornberry, then there's the shadow Chancellor, who still displays a “H-Block Martyrs” plaque in his office. Hardly someone fit enough to be 2nd in charge of the British government is it?
Says he from France. Hardly someone fit enough to comment on Britain. You gave up your right to an input when you emigrated.
What a ridiculous comment. I also live abroad, doesn't mean i can't think (or comment) that Abbott is a complete fucking idiot.
Not to mention that if you were a registered voter (as i was) then Brits living abroad can vote in elections for up to 15 years after they've left the UK.
I don't think anyone should have the vote here if they don't live here. Especially if they don't pay taxes here. You move, you're gone.
"You gave up your right to an input when you emigrated"
What absolute ignorant nonsense.
If you leave why should you have the right to influence what happens to those who stay?
We're going to agree to disagree on the topic itself, but I just wanted to say that your post was ignorant.
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She has views I don’t agree with and I would not support if she were in government.
However, she is clearly a very successful constituency MP judging by the views of those who keep voting her in and the margins of her victories.
But as I have said before she is nowhere near the worst and my worry is that as a woman (under represented in British politics) and black (under represented in British politics) it is her who is subjected to far more personal abuse than white male politicians.
Leaves a bad taste when there are others in more prominent and powerful positions who openly lie to parliament, promote policies that are oppressive and have their intentional and deliberate divisive decisions quickly forgotten or glossed over by their media pals.
As said before maybe people should dig deeper to find out about others but then they may have to accept stuff they don’t want to see.
The difference is that, unlike Labour, he has no pretensions of representing anyone except Boris Johnson. In that sense what you see is what you get.
Labour politicians pretend to represent the ordinary people but in reality hold them in sneering contempt. The last Labour Prime Minister referred to an elderly voter asking questions about immigration as a 'bigot' when he thought the microphones had been switched off.
Many would argue that Labour's hypocrisy is worse than Tory c****ishness as that is what you expect and deserve if you vote Tory. Therefore Abbott gets the flak because she exemplifies and has exemplified that hypocrisy in so many ways.
My view is a plague on both their houses. I feel thoroughly disenfranchised and am probably not alone.
You move, you're gone.
I don't cast a vote in either country, thank fuck
What absolute ignorant nonsense.
Gutless and clueless tories in power, because there is no opposition to them.
However, her comments about Mao are completely inexcusable. Not to delve too far into my family history, but my grandfather's internment absolutely broke him. He was a government employee, too, when he was incarcerated - and then was essentially made to sift through pig shit or something similar for several years, until such time as he was magically restored to the head of his household and former job/similar.
To harbour even half a notion that Mao did more good than harm is ignorant at best and, well, dangerously racist at worst. (Abbott is probably nearer on the ignorance scale tbf, but still, that she is Shadow Home and thinks that - fucking hell.)