Got players as good as Holmes, who apart from Fosu? That's just money surely, if Holmes wants to come back we should do everything we can to get him back.
Got players as good as Holmes, who apart from Fosu? That's just money surely, if Holmes wants to come back we should do everything we can to get him back.
If Bowyer doesn’t want him, that’s good enough for me. A player who showed nothing of the previous seasons form last season, wants to come back to a club he wanted to leave, because it now suits him and his family location in Essex, nah, your alright Ricky
Got players as good as Holmes, who apart from Fosu? That's just money surely, if Holmes wants to come back we should do everything we can to get him back.
If Bowyer doesn’t want him, that’s good enough for me. A player who showed nothing of the previous seasons form last season, wants to come back to a club he wanted to leave, because it now suits him and his family location in Essex, nah, your alright Ricky
So (at a club you didn't support) you would happily stay at a basket case of a club and reject the chance to join a Club who were then in the play offs in the league above?
It hasn't worked out for him but I hold no bitterness towards him. I would have done the same. We are very light on the wing and I feel he has enough left in him to improve us massively for this season.
Maybe didn't show the season before form but he still looked our best threat most games and scored a couple of crackers.
Got players as good as Holmes, who apart from Fosu? That's just money surely, if Holmes wants to come back we should do everything we can to get him back.
If Bowyer doesn’t want him, that’s good enough for me. A player who showed nothing of the previous seasons form last season, wants to come back to a club he wanted to leave, because it now suits him and his family location in Essex, nah, your alright Ricky
Got to agree with @DA9 on this one. You wanted to go, you went, you’ve been a failure, you can’t come back mate. Get someone in who really wants to play for us and Bow. Not someone looking for an easy option or cause he still lives nearby. He was good for us, but I’d prefer to move on.
Got players as good as Holmes, who apart from Fosu? That's just money surely, if Holmes wants to come back we should do everything we can to get him back.
If Bowyer doesn’t want him, that’s good enough for me. A player who showed nothing of the previous seasons form last season, wants to come back to a club he wanted to leave, because it now suits him and his family location in Essex, nah, your alright Ricky
So (at a club you didn't support) you would happily stay at a basket case of a club and reject the chance to join a Club who were then in the play offs in the league above?
It hasn't worked out for him but I hold no bitterness towards him. I would have done the same. We are very light on the wing and I feel he has enough left in him to improve us massively for this season.
Maybe didn't show the season before form but he still looked our best threat most games and scored a couple of crackers.
May also mean that he is league one at best. I realise that we are currently in that league, but perhaps we should be looking at those capable of doing a job in the championship.
Got players as good as Holmes, who apart from Fosu? That's just money surely, if Holmes wants to come back we should do everything we can to get him back.
If Bowyer doesn’t want him, that’s good enough for me. A player who showed nothing of the previous seasons form last season, wants to come back to a club he wanted to leave, because it now suits him and his family location in Essex, nah, your alright Ricky
So (at a club you didn't support) you would happily stay at a basket case of a club and reject the chance to join a Club who were then in the play offs in the league above?
It hasn't worked out for him but I hold no bitterness towards him. I would have done the same. We are very light on the wing and I feel he has enough left in him to improve us massively for this season.
Maybe didn't show the season before form but he still looked our best threat most games and scored a couple of crackers.
May also mean that he is league one at best.
Yeah but we are a League 1 club. A League 1 club severely lacking in depth. I haven't seen Dawkins yet, but from what I have heard/read, Holmes would be the better signing.
For a player who was meant to be out of form to in the last 6-8 weeks he was at the club, to still have scored 6 and assisted 6 by Christmas isn’t too bad, is it? I also don’t buy the line that we were a better team without him. Okay it made others step up, goodness they had to, but how can you be a better team when one of your best and influential players leaves and gets replaced by Kaikai who came with promise but showed nothing?
If we can bring him back, that’s another player who will get double figures and another option to the team. It’s not like we have signed anyone in that position since. We could bring in Dawkins but if we can bring in both, that is both wings sorted, no problem.
Got players as good as Holmes, who apart from Fosu? That's just money surely, if Holmes wants to come back we should do everything we can to get him back.
If Bowyer doesn’t want him, that’s good enough for me. A player who showed nothing of the previous seasons form last season, wants to come back to a club he wanted to leave, because it now suits him and his family location in Essex, nah, your alright Ricky
So (at a club you didn't support) you would happily stay at a basket case of a club and reject the chance to join a Club who were then in the play offs in the league above?
It hasn't worked out for him but I hold no bitterness towards him. I would have done the same. We are very light on the wing and I feel he has enough left in him to improve us massively for this season.
Maybe didn't show the season before form but he still looked our best threat most games and scored a couple of crackers.
May also mean that he is league one at best.
Yeah but we are a League 1 club. A League 1 club severely lacking in depth. I haven't seen Dawkins yet, but from what I have heard/read, Holmes would be the better signing.
Holmes made his bed so not hugely sympathetic but I doubt if we would meet his wages. I think a lot of people are way too complacent about the squad we currently have though, even in this crap division.
Got players as good as Holmes, who apart from Fosu? That's just money surely, if Holmes wants to come back we should do everything we can to get him back.
If Bowyer doesn’t want him, that’s good enough for me. A player who showed nothing of the previous seasons form last season, wants to come back to a club he wanted to leave, because it now suits him and his family location in Essex, nah, your alright Ricky
So (at a club you didn't support) you would happily stay at a basket case of a club and reject the chance to join a Club who were then in the play offs in the league above?
It hasn't worked out for him but I hold no bitterness towards him. I would have done the same. We are very light on the wing and I feel he has enough left in him to improve us massively for this season.
Maybe didn't show the season before form but he still looked our best threat most games and scored a couple of crackers.
May also mean that he is league one at best.
Yeah but we are a League 1 club. A League 1 club severely lacking in depth. I haven't seen Dawkins yet, but from what I have heard/read, Holmes would be the better signing.
Holmes made his bed so not hugely sympathetic but I doubt if we would meet his wages. I think a lot of people are way too complacent about the squad we currently have though, even in this crap division.
I'm not sympathetic either but are you telling me you would have turned down Sheffield Utd in January to stay at Charlton? I certainly wouldn't and we shouldn't begrudge him that move.
As for now, if we could afford him then we should sign him because he would massively improve us.
Got players as good as Holmes, who apart from Fosu? That's just money surely, if Holmes wants to come back we should do everything we can to get him back.
If Bowyer doesn’t want him, that’s good enough for me. A player who showed nothing of the previous seasons form last season, wants to come back to a club he wanted to leave, because it now suits him and his family location in Essex, nah, your alright Ricky
So (at a club you didn't support) you would happily stay at a basket case of a club and reject the chance to join a Club who were then in the play offs in the league above?
It hasn't worked out for him but I hold no bitterness towards him. I would have done the same. We are very light on the wing and I feel he has enough left in him to improve us massively for this season.
Maybe didn't show the season before form but he still looked our best threat most games and scored a couple of crackers.
May also mean that he is league one at best.
Yeah but we are a League 1 club. A League 1 club severely lacking in depth. I haven't seen Dawkins yet, but from what I have heard/read, Holmes would be the better signing.
Having seen Dawkins play in 3 games now, he is a much better all round player.
Got players as good as Holmes, who apart from Fosu? That's just money surely, if Holmes wants to come back we should do everything we can to get him back.
If Bowyer doesn’t want him, that’s good enough for me. A player who showed nothing of the previous seasons form last season, wants to come back to a club he wanted to leave, because it now suits him and his family location in Essex, nah, your alright Ricky
So (at a club you didn't support) you would happily stay at a basket case of a club and reject the chance to join a Club who were then in the play offs in the league above?
It hasn't worked out for him but I hold no bitterness towards him. I would have done the same. We are very light on the wing and I feel he has enough left in him to improve us massively for this season.
Maybe didn't show the season before form but he still looked our best threat most games and scored a couple of crackers.
May also mean that he is league one at best.
Yeah but we are a League 1 club. A League 1 club severely lacking in depth. I haven't seen Dawkins yet, but from what I have heard/read, Holmes would be the better signing.
Having seen Dawkins play in 3 games now, he is a much better all round player.
Bowyer also enthuses about Dawkins, though having seen him at Welling and against Dulwich, I've yet to be convinced. Holmes's contribution to attacking play and his ability to score are proven. I suspect Bowyer feels the money could be better spent.
Not too fussed about Josh Megennnis maybe going. Lovely guy, works so hard. Just misses so many chances. Anyone notice he almost missed the penalty in the Cambridge friendly?
Not until we have proper replacement. Already short on numbers
Agree with this. Not particularly fussed on Magennis going but we're already desperately short of numbers, so i don't see how selling a striker to a rival is a good idea.
Not too fussed about Josh Megennnis maybe going. Lovely guy, works so hard. Just misses so many chances. Anyone notice he almost missed the penalty in the Cambridge friendly?
Not until we have proper replacement. Already short on numbers
Agree with this. Not particularly fussed on Magennis going but we're already desperately short of numbers, so i don't see how selling a striker to a rival is a good idea.
If it gives you £300/400k to sign Tom Eaves, it would be good business.
This is a shout, if Magennis does go then Eaves would be the person I would like to replace him, not out of our reach either surely
I admit Eaves played well at The Valley, but would you sign him on the back of one game?
He banged in 18 goals last season so hardly only hard one decent game. He's a good age at 26 and lives locally in Kent.
We should always be looking to upgrade the team if we can. Magennis will never give us the goals we need from our strikers to get promotion.
Who do you think we can realistically get as a 'big man who can hold up the ball + score goals' replacement for Magennis that would do better job?
Eaves is a perfect & realistic target in my opinion.
I'm not sure what's available for a norninal, undisclosed fee or free transfer.
Got players as good as Holmes, who apart from Fosu? That's just money surely, if Holmes wants to come back we should do everything we can to get him back.
If Bowyer doesn’t want him, that’s good enough for me. A player who showed nothing of the previous seasons form last season, wants to come back to a club he wanted to leave, because it now suits him and his family location in Essex, nah, your alright Ricky
So (at a club you didn't support) you would happily stay at a basket case of a club and reject the chance to join a Club who were then in the play offs in the league above?
It hasn't worked out for him but I hold no bitterness towards him. I would have done the same. We are very light on the wing and I feel he has enough left in him to improve us massively for this season.
Maybe didn't show the season before form but he still looked our best threat most games and scored a couple of crackers.
May also mean that he is league one at best.
Yeah but we are a League 1 club. A League 1 club severely lacking in depth. I haven't seen Dawkins yet, but from what I have heard/read, Holmes would be the better signing.
Holmes made his bed so not hugely sympathetic but I doubt if we would meet his wages. I think a lot of people are way too complacent about the squad we currently have though, even in this crap division.
I'm not sympathetic either but are you telling me you would have turned down Sheffield Utd in January to stay at Charlton? I certainly wouldn't and we shouldn't begrudge him that move.
As for now, if we could afford him then we should sign him because he would massively improve us.
Holmes didn't ask to leave, but saw our lack of ambition when the owner accepted the offer to cash in on yet another of our better players, and was then encouraged by an ambitious club in the Blades with a manager who wasn't Karl Robinson.
Igor won’t be out till December I had facia plasmta ( can’t be arsed to check spelling) I over trained for referee fitness test on grass running track and tore mine it’s due to over excersiving igor has done to much running looking at his Instagram. It’s like a stabbing pain in your heel when you put pressure on it. I changed to cycling to keep fit and then done referees fitness test just before season started fine. It’s caused by having high arches on your feet.you need inersols to support your feet. So for me igor is keen to have a good season to secure a new contract or a good next move in his career. Hope he smashes goals in all season. Aussies take over and give him a new contract be nice to see our best players playing for us not someone else.
With the greatest respect. The levels of fitness you needed to achieve and what will be necessary for Igor are two totally different things. Also not all tears are the same. He already hasnt had a full pre season and when he finally does get back training he will still be weeks off. If we see Igor before Christmas it will be a bonus.
Got players as good as Holmes, who apart from Fosu? That's just money surely, if Holmes wants to come back we should do everything we can to get him back.
his girlfriend is based in london, he'd love to come back, only question is, could we get the budget to do the deal and does Bowyer see him as part of his plan? personally i'd love to see him back.
Got players as good as Holmes, who apart from Fosu? That's just money surely, if Holmes wants to come back we should do everything we can to get him back.
his girlfriend is based in london, he'd love to come back, only question is, could we get the budget to do the deal and does Bowyer see him as part of his plan? personally i'd love to see him back.
I think we have to move on. I don't know what happened, but he looked great. Then he stopped looking great. He'd be a gamble now, wouldn't he?
Got players as good as Holmes, who apart from Fosu? That's just money surely, if Holmes wants to come back we should do everything we can to get him back.
his girlfriend is based in london, he'd love to come back, only question is, could we get the budget to do the deal and does Bowyer see him as part of his plan? personally i'd love to see him back.
I think we have to move on. I don't know what happened, but he looked great. Then he stopped looking great. He'd be a gamble now, wouldn't he?
Even if Ricky doesn't reach the heights he did in his first season or early last season, doesn't mean he isn't good enough. Even if he's not going to be one of our best players, doesn't mean he wouldn't be a good addition, certainly not a gamble.
Got players as good as Holmes, who apart from Fosu? That's just money surely, if Holmes wants to come back we should do everything we can to get him back.
his girlfriend is based in london, he'd love to come back, only question is, could we get the budget to do the deal and does Bowyer see him as part of his plan? personally i'd love to see him back.
I think we have to move on. I don't know what happened, but he looked great. Then he stopped looking great. He'd be a gamble now, wouldn't he?
one name Sullay Kaikai.... i'd have a shit ricky holmes over him any day of the week
Got players as good as Holmes, who apart from Fosu? That's just money surely, if Holmes wants to come back we should do everything we can to get him back.
his girlfriend is based in london, he'd love to come back, only question is, could we get the budget to do the deal and does Bowyer see him as part of his plan? personally i'd love to see him back.
I think we have to move on. I don't know what happened, but he looked great. Then he stopped looking great. He'd be a gamble now, wouldn't he?
one name Sullay Kaikai.... i'd have a shit ricky holmes over him any day of the week
Agree but was told at the time that Holmes wasn't much missed at Sparrows Lane.
Got players as good as Holmes, who apart from Fosu? That's just money surely, if Holmes wants to come back we should do everything we can to get him back.
his girlfriend is based in london, he'd love to come back, only question is, could we get the budget to do the deal and does Bowyer see him as part of his plan? personally i'd love to see him back.
I think we have to move on. I don't know what happened, but he looked great. Then he stopped looking great. He'd be a gamble now, wouldn't he?
one name Sullay Kaikai.... i'd have a shit ricky holmes over him any day of the week
Agree but was told at the time that Holmes wasn't much missed at Sparrows Lane.
That's interesting, would never have thought that.
Got players as good as Holmes, who apart from Fosu? That's just money surely, if Holmes wants to come back we should do everything we can to get him back.
If Bowyer doesn’t want him, that’s good enough for me. A player who showed nothing of the previous seasons form last season, wants to come back to a club he wanted to leave, because it now suits him and his family location in Essex, nah, your alright Ricky
So (at a club you didn't support) you would happily stay at a basket case of a club and reject the chance to join a Club who were then in the play offs in the league above?
It hasn't worked out for him but I hold no bitterness towards him. I would have done the same. We are very light on the wing and I feel he has enough left in him to improve us massively for this season.
Maybe didn't show the season before form but he still looked our best threat most games and scored a couple of crackers.
I hold no bitterness either, however, Bowyer, who don’t forget, coached Ricky before he left, so he knows the player, and the man, Bowyer does not want him, after Ricky allegedly made his services available, that should be the end of it. As others have said, we did look more balanced once he’d left, time to move on, and I’ll say it again, he wanted to leave, his choice, it’s also Bowyers choice now, and he’s made it, we should also not be used as a fallback/buffer because it didn’t work out for him else where
Got players as good as Holmes, who apart from Fosu? That's just money surely, if Holmes wants to come back we should do everything we can to get him back.
his girlfriend is based in london, he'd love to come back, only question is, could we get the budget to do the deal and does Bowyer see him as part of his plan? personally i'd love to see him back.
I think we have to move on. I don't know what happened, but he looked great. Then he stopped looking great. He'd be a gamble now, wouldn't he?
one name Sullay Kaikai.... i'd have a shit ricky holmes over him any day of the week
Agree but was told at the time that Holmes wasn't much missed at Sparrows Lane.
Was told the same by a colleague who knows one of the first team staff, “big time Charlie” were the exact words
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A player who showed nothing of the previous seasons form last season, wants to come back to a club he wanted to leave, because it now suits him and his family location in Essex, nah, your alright Ricky
It hasn't worked out for him but I hold no bitterness towards him. I would have done the same. We are very light on the wing and I feel he has enough left in him to improve us massively for this season.
Maybe didn't show the season before form but he still looked our best threat most games and scored a couple of crackers.
If we can bring him back, that’s another player who will get double figures and another option to the team. It’s not like we have signed anyone in that position since. We could bring in Dawkins but if we can bring in both, that is both wings sorted, no problem.
As for now, if we could afford him then we should sign him because he would massively improve us.
As others have said, we did look more balanced once he’d left, time to move on, and I’ll say it again, he wanted to leave, his choice, it’s also Bowyers choice now, and he’s made it, we should also not be used as a fallback/buffer because it didn’t work out for him else where