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Nathan Jones - sacked by Southampton (p12)

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    edited November 2019
    Vincenzo said:
    Stoke's squad cost £143million! The most expensive ever in the Championship, I think.
    A few of the expensive flops have been loaned out though. Imbula, Wimmer, Afobe (though that was a mystery seeing that they only signed him in January)
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,994
    The timing is a bit strange. As others have said they stuck with him when they could easily have got rid sooner, then they went and beat Swansea and Fulham and looked to have turned the corner. Ok they then went and lost the next 2 (tough away) games but i thought they'd stick with him.

    Also if they were going to sack him why didn't they do it on Sunday morning after the Millwall defeat, why wait 5 more days?
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    The timing is a bit strange. As others have said they stuck with him when they could easily have got rid sooner, then they went and beat Swansea and Fulham and looked to have turned the corner. Ok they then went and lost the next 2 (tough away) games but i thought they'd stick with him.

    Also if they were going to sack him why didn't they do it on Sunday morning after the Millwall defeat, why wait 5 more days?
    I suppose its a case of they can sack him when they like, if they are on holiday (as i vaguely remember reading), then they can do it whenever they want.
  • SomervilleAddick
    SomervilleAddick Posts: 3,575
    Another loss - @bobmunro to pick next weeks team?
  • Aethelstan
    Aethelstan Posts: 542
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    The timing is a bit strange. As others have said they stuck with him when they could easily have got rid sooner, then they went and beat Swansea and Fulham and looked to have turned the corner. 
    Probably after they beat Swansea and Fulham he marched into the boardroom, put two fingers up to the directors and said "Sack me now , you f*ckers and you will have a riot on your hands".  I tried something comparable in one of my (many) jobs. It did not turn out well.
  • Aethelstan
    Aethelstan Posts: 542
    killerandflash said:
    To be fair to Jones, he's done better at Stoke than Chris Kamara!


    I warned them Harry Lockett could not hack it, but they wouldn't listen. 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,757
    It all went Pete Tong at Stoke but if ever a Manager and Club were made for each other it has to be Nathan Jones and Luton Town. His record there is now Played 294, Won 138, Drawn 79, Lost 77 . Luton have a tough run coming up but I wouldn't bet against Luton making the Play Offs at the end of the season - on what is a minimal budget compared to most the clubs in the Championship.
  • Ormiston_Addick
    Ormiston_Addick Posts: 8,810
    Addick Addict said:
    It all went Pete Tong at Stoke but if ever a Manager and Club were made for each other it has to be Nathan Jones and Luton Town. His record there is now Played 294, Won 138, Drawn 79, Lost 77 . Luton have a tough run coming up but I wouldn't bet against Luton making the Play Offs at the end of the season - on what is a minimal budget compared to most the clubs in the Championship.
    Yup - an outstanding coach….and we let him go.

    Think of some of the clowns we have had managing us since Jones left.

    We can’t seem to get anything right, can we?
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,839
    Addick Addict said:
    It all went Pete Tong at Stoke but if ever a Manager and Club were made for each other it has to be Nathan Jones and Luton Town. His record there is now Played 294, Won 138, Drawn 79, Lost 77 . Luton have a tough run coming up but I wouldn't bet against Luton making the Play Offs at the end of the season - on what is a minimal budget compared to most the clubs in the Championship.
    When lockdown happened in March 2020, Luton were 4 points behind us. They brought back Nathan Jones, whereas we were screwed by ESI and Taylor's desertion, and our paths have since diverged massively.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    edited February 2023
    Sacked by Southampton after 14 games.

    Hard to argue it wasn’t deserved. Seemed to have completely lost the plot.

    I’m guessing he will end up back at Luton after Rob Edwards moves on.
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  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,241
    Some people calling him the worst PL manager in history
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    sam3110 said:
    Some people calling him the worst PL manager in history
    He lasted double the days Les Reed did with us, Les is still the shortest serving manager in PL history 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,994
    eaststandmike said:
    sam3110 said:
    Some people calling him the worst PL manager in history
    He lasted double the days Les Reed did with us, Les is still the shortest serving manager in PL history 
    That was largely thanks to the 6 week break for the world cup though.

    Les Reed actually got 4 points from 7 matches. Jones was in charge for 8 league games and they lost 7 of them, so statistically he was worse than Reed.
  • Lordflashheart
    Lordflashheart Posts: 5,619
    Thread title needs amending methinks @AFKABartram
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,914
    Luton fans wouldn't want him back again.
  • SporadicAddick
    SporadicAddick Posts: 6,846
    he's coming home, he's coming home, he's coming, Natahan's coming home,,,,
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,976
    SporadicAddick said:
    he's coming home, he's coming home, he's coming, Natahan's coming home,,,,
    If Holden were to depart would he be welcomed here?
    knows the club, did a superb job at Luton despite limited resources but might be a bit fiery for Thomas I suspect
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,943
    sam3110 said:
    Some people calling him the worst PL manager in history
    Surely that's De Boer, lost all his games.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited February 2023
    Swisdom said:
    SporadicAddick said:
    he's coming home, he's coming home, he's coming, Natahan's coming home,,,,
    If Holden were to depart would he be welcomed here?
    knows the club, did a superb job at Luton despite limited resources but might be a bit fiery for Thomas I suspect


    Sorry but "he knows the club" is the biggest load of cods wallop.  It's close to "he gets us".
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,976
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Swisdom said:
    SporadicAddick said:
    he's coming home, he's coming home, he's coming, Natahan's coming home,,,,
    If Holden were to depart would he be welcomed here?
    knows the club, did a superb job at Luton despite limited resources but might be a bit fiery for Thomas I suspect


    Sorry but "he knows the club" is the biggest load of cods wallop.  It's close to "he gets us".
    I disagree.  He worked here previously didn’t he?  Ergo he knows the club better than many.
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  • Six-a-bag-of-nuts
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts Posts: 8,127
    We have a toadstool with his name on it
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,219
    North Lower Neil said:
    sam3110 said:
    Some people calling him the worst PL manager in history
    Surely that's De Boer, lost all his games.
    If only Palace had given him the whole season.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Swisdom said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Swisdom said:
    SporadicAddick said:
    he's coming home, he's coming home, he's coming, Natahan's coming home,,,,
    If Holden were to depart would he be welcomed here?
    knows the club, did a superb job at Luton despite limited resources but might be a bit fiery for Thomas I suspect


    Sorry but "he knows the club" is the biggest load of cods wallop.  It's close to "he gets us".
    I disagree.  He worked here previously didn’t he?  Ergo he knows the club better than many.
    And what relevance does that have to getting results on a Saturday?


  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,914
    Swisdom said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Swisdom said:
    SporadicAddick said:
    he's coming home, he's coming home, he's coming, Natahan's coming home,,,,
    If Holden were to depart would he be welcomed here?
    knows the club, did a superb job at Luton despite limited resources but might be a bit fiery for Thomas I suspect


    Sorry but "he knows the club" is the biggest load of cods wallop.  It's close to "he gets us".
    I disagree.  He worked here previously didn’t he?  Ergo he knows the club better than many.
    How long ago and for how long ?. This ain't the same club by anything other than name.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,371
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Swisdom said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Swisdom said:
    SporadicAddick said:
    he's coming home, he's coming home, he's coming, Natahan's coming home,,,,
    If Holden were to depart would he be welcomed here?
    knows the club, did a superb job at Luton despite limited resources but might be a bit fiery for Thomas I suspect


    Sorry but "he knows the club" is the biggest load of cods wallop.  It's close to "he gets us".
    I disagree.  He worked here previously didn’t he?  Ergo he knows the club better than many.
    And what relevance does that have to getting results on a Saturday?


    He gets that the fans want to see hard working players who play a style suited to their abilities in order to win enough games to meet or potentially exceed expectations.

    I’m sure you’d agree we’re a rather unique club in that respect.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Scoham said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Swisdom said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Swisdom said:
    SporadicAddick said:
    he's coming home, he's coming home, he's coming, Natahan's coming home,,,,
    If Holden were to depart would he be welcomed here?
    knows the club, did a superb job at Luton despite limited resources but might be a bit fiery for Thomas I suspect


    Sorry but "he knows the club" is the biggest load of cods wallop.  It's close to "he gets us".
    I disagree.  He worked here previously didn’t he?  Ergo he knows the club better than many.
    And what relevance does that have to getting results on a Saturday?


    He gets that the fans want to see hard working players who play a style suited to their abilities in order to win enough games to meet or potentially exceed expectations.

    I’m sure you’d agree we’re a rather unique club in that respect.
    You would have thought other fans would have caught on by now wouldn't you? 
  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,234
    Swisdom said:
    SporadicAddick said:
    he's coming home, he's coming home, he's coming, Natahan's coming home,,,,
    If Holden were to depart would he be welcomed here?
    knows the club, did a superb job at Luton despite limited resources but might be a bit fiery for Thomas I suspect
    No!!!!!
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,841
    Sillybilly said:
    Swisdom said:
    SporadicAddick said:
    he's coming home, he's coming home, he's coming, Natahan's coming home,,,,
    If Holden were to depart would he be welcomed here?
    knows the club, did a superb job at Luton despite limited resources but might be a bit fiery for Thomas I suspect
    No!!!!!

    I'll see that no and raise you a double no.
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    was an odd appointment in the first place at southampton tbh. Has now shown twice he can't cut it at a club with higher expectations. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,371

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