It’s definitely our best performance for a few weeks. Budget difference is showing and that’s before you get to the fact our bench only has 6 players on
Great advert for women's football though. Very exciting at the end, particularly with us much more likely to get the winner. And how close was that to a penalty? An inch? Probably a fair result overall though
1-1 was a fair result after we really stepped things up in the second half.
Birmingham were comfortable in the first half and went in front from a kamikaze attempt to play it out from the back. Like Bristol City last week, their passing was much slicker than ours, and they should have had a second when one of their players had a free header that luckily went straight at Sophie Whitehouse. Our one chance in the half came from Jodie Hutton breaking through down the left, but the keeper saved it and we couldn't make the rebound count.
Straight from the restart, though, we improved. Ellie Brazil was played in twice, only to seemingly not trust herself to take the shot on, and we were better at getting the ball out to Hutton, who put in some dangerous crosses that just didn't find a red shirt. Our defence kept Birmingham quiet, and then as added time began Siber led a counter-attack that eventually fell to Mel Filis, who swept the ball home. Hutton had a free kick right on the edge of the box that the keeper pushed round the post, and that was that.
The main beneficiaries of this result are the London City Lionesses. Promotion for us has almost certainly gone now (6 points off top with 9 left to play for), but it was always a long shot anyway.
1-1 was a fair result after we really stepped things up in the second half.
Birmingham were comfortable in the first half and went in front from a kamikaze attempt to play it out from the back. Like Bristol City last week, their passing was much slicker than ours, and they should have had a second when one of their players had a free header that luckily went straight at Sophie Whitehouse. Our one chance in the half came from Jodie Hutton breaking through down the left, but the keeper saved it and we couldn't make the rebound count.
Straight from the restart, though, we improved. Ellie Brazil was played in twice, only to seemingly not trust herself to take the shot on, and we were better at getting the ball out to Hutton, who put in some dangerous crosses that just didn't find a red shirt. Our defence kept Birmingham quiet, and then as added time began Siber led a counter-attack that eventually fell to Mel Filis, who swept the ball home. Hutton had a free kick right on the edge of the box that the keeper pushed round the post, and that was that.
The main beneficiaries of this result are the London City Lionesses. Promotion for us has almost certainly gone now (6 points off top with 9 left to play for), but it was always a long shot anyway.
I agree with it being a fair result, was a good game. It’s another missed opportunity this year however, like last year. With the points we accumulated at the start of the season and how we performed today and against London recently it shows we could have won this league.
Having seen the highlights, I realise I've done Gloria Siber a disservice by saying the ball 'fell' to Mel Filis - Siber knew exactly what she was doing and played a good pass.
Siber isn't the biggest or strongest, but she does have a nice touch on her. It'd be interesting to see her start one of the remaining games, rather than the short cameos she's had so far.
I don't follow the women's game as I already watch too much TV and sport etc. I noticed at a recent Charlton game there were about 200 attendees, officially perhaps 400.
I got on the tube yesterday at Kings X after a few warm down pints and was surprised to see a multitude of red and white scarves which I guessed was down to Arsenal women playing.
I just googled and Arsenal women beat Liverpool 4-0, attendance 35,628.
As others said thought we grew into the game, much better second half, and I thought we looked much more likely with Siber on. Bags of energy and was not afraid to put her foot in a couple of times as well. However good Muya can be going forward I think we really missed Newsham on the right, as time after time she got caught out of position defensively.
I spoke to Charlotte at the end whilst she was signing an autograph for my daughter, and said they're hopeful of her being back for the last 2 games, so hopefully will only miss one more game.
The lack of depth has certainly played a part this season if you look at the players we've been missing, Roe, Ross, Primus, Humphrey and Bissell all missing today, and we couldn't even name a full bench - not for the first time this season.
I don't follow the women's game as I already watch too much TV and sport etc. I noticed at a recent Charlton game there were about 200 attendees, officially perhaps 400.
I got on the tube yesterday at Kings X after a few warm down pints and was surprised to see a multitude of red and white scarves which I guessed was down to Arsenal women playing.
I just googled and Arsenal women beat Liverpool 4-0, attendance 35,628.
I came home from Dover via St Pancras yesterday at about 8pm and there were heaps of families and couples coming back from Arsenal on the high-speed platforms heading back to Kent. It shows what an incredible job they've done marketing the side.
I just hope Charlton are realising that they need to market the women's matches and market them to families who wouldn't necessarily come to men's matches - there's a big local catchment to take advantage of, especially with Palace still playing their matches in Sutton. I keep getting London City Lionesses ads in my Instagram feeds, yet there's nothing from us.
Dulwich women had 663 today for their fourth-tier match against QPR, which is pretty typical for them now - obviously that's a more affluent neighbourhood but that's from marketing being done by volunteers.
Great advert for women's football though. Very exciting at the end, particularly with us much more likely to get the winner. And how close was that to a penalty? An inch? Probably a fair result overall though
6 points is do-a-ble in three games. Newcastle will be the team to watch (having to play two extra games and all the top three yet to come). It was the dip in form that ultimately cost Charlton this season.
1-1 was a fair result after we really stepped things up in the second half.
Birmingham were comfortable in the first half and went in front from a kamikaze attempt to play it out from the back. Like Bristol City last week, their passing was much slicker than ours, and they should have had a second when one of their players had a free header that luckily went straight at Sophie Whitehouse. Our one chance in the half came from Jodie Hutton breaking through down the left, but the keeper saved it and we couldn't make the rebound count.
Straight from the restart, though, we improved. Ellie Brazil was played in twice, only to seemingly not trust herself to take the shot on, and we were better at getting the ball out to Hutton, who put in some dangerous crosses that just didn't find a red shirt. Our defence kept Birmingham quiet, and then as added time began Siber led a counter-attack that eventually fell to Mel Filis, who swept the ball home. Hutton had a free kick right on the edge of the box that the keeper pushed round the post, and that was that.
The main beneficiaries of this result are the London City Lionesses. Promotion for us has almost certainly gone now (6 points off top with 9 left to play for), but it was always a long shot anyway.
I agree with it being a fair result, was a good game. It’s another missed opportunity this year however, like last year. With the points we accumulated at the start of the season and how we performed today and against London recently it shows we could have won this league.
it will get more difficult next year.
It will be the same as this season right (Only was Palace in the mix again)?
I don't follow the women's game as I already watch too much TV and sport etc. I noticed at a recent Charlton game there were about 200 attendees, officially perhaps 400.
I got on the tube yesterday at Kings X after a few warm down pints and was surprised to see a multitude of red and white scarves which I guessed was down to Arsenal women playing.
I just googled and Arsenal women beat Liverpool 4-0, attendance 35,628.*
I came home from Dover via St Pancras yesterday at about 8pm and there were heaps of families and couples coming back from Arsenal on the high-speed platforms heading back to Kent. It shows what an incredible job they've done marketing the side.**
I just hope Charlton are realising that they need to market the women's matches*** and market them to families who wouldn't necessarily come to men's matches - there's a big local catchment to take advantage of, especially with Palace still playing their matches in Sutton. I keep getting London City Lionesses ads in my Instagram feeds, yet there's nothing from us.
Dulwich women had 663 today for their fourth-tier match against QPR, which is pretty typical for them now - obviously that's a more affluent neighbourhood but that's from marketing being done by volunteers.****
* A bit more WCL related:Newcastle Sunderland had an attendance of 38,502 fans
** Arsenal do their marketing in local areas, and Spurs do theirs on the tube (in Leyton next to where they play Gaughan Group Stadium), also seen advert for Spurs in Wembley. They will attract fans for their football team (brand awareness) name alone.
***- Charlton have not got a bigger budget to do such marketing, doesn't he that big of an outreach but again could be smart with what they do. - Give free tickets to local community groups/school children (or university of greenwich) - advertise with local business - have a better season ticket loyalty scheme
Doubt we have a budget to advertise like Arsenal and Tottenham, but there are ways we can engage the community. ****- We could try this out next season to save costs (a suggestion to the CST perhaps)
The Club are looking for a Commercial Officer if anyone reckons they could do the job.
1-1 was a fair result after we really stepped things up in the second half.
Birmingham were comfortable in the first half and went in front from a kamikaze attempt to play it out from the back. Like Bristol City last week, their passing was much slicker than ours, and they should have had a second when one of their players had a free header that luckily went straight at Sophie Whitehouse. Our one chance in the half came from Jodie Hutton breaking through down the left, but the keeper saved it and we couldn't make the rebound count.
Straight from the restart, though, we improved. Ellie Brazil was played in twice, only to seemingly not trust herself to take the shot on, and we were better at getting the ball out to Hutton, who put in some dangerous crosses that just didn't find a red shirt. Our defence kept Birmingham quiet, and then as added time began Siber led a counter-attack that eventually fell to Mel Filis, who swept the ball home. Hutton had a free kick right on the edge of the box that the keeper pushed round the post, and that was that.
The main beneficiaries of this result are the London City Lionesses. Promotion for us has almost certainly gone now (6 points off top with 9 left to play for), but it was always a long shot anyway.
I agree with it being a fair result, was a good game. It’s another missed opportunity this year however, like last year. With the points we accumulated at the start of the season and how we performed today and against London recently it shows we could have won this league.
it will get more difficult next year.
It will be the same as this season right (Only was Palace in the mix again)?
Other teams will invest. We will do our business on the cheap.
Good chance the teams that come up will be better than whoever goes down as well. Nottingham Forest and Ipswich are currently top of the North and South and they've both invested.
Not to the same level of Newcastle, but Forest if they came up in particular I would imagine will spend enough to at least try and make sure they're in no danger of going straight back down. Ipswich might scale back the investment a bit with the men's team looking like they're going to go down.
Good chance the teams that come up will be better than whoever goes down as well. Nottingham Forest and Ipswich are currently top of the North and South and they've both invested.
Not to the same level of Newcastle, but Forest if they came up in particular I would imagine will spend enough to at least try and make sure they're in no danger of going straight back down. Ipswich might scale back the investment a bit with the men's team looking like they're going to go down.
Interesting that most of the Clubs we are talking about have (currently) a male equivalent Premier League team.
1-1 was a fair result after we really stepped things up in the second half.
Birmingham were comfortable in the first half and went in front from a kamikaze attempt to play it out from the back. Like Bristol City last week, their passing was much slicker than ours, and they should have had a second when one of their players had a free header that luckily went straight at Sophie Whitehouse. Our one chance in the half came from Jodie Hutton breaking through down the left, but the keeper saved it and we couldn't make the rebound count.
Straight from the restart, though, we improved. Ellie Brazil was played in twice, only to seemingly not trust herself to take the shot on, and we were better at getting the ball out to Hutton, who put in some dangerous crosses that just didn't find a red shirt. Our defence kept Birmingham quiet, and then as added time began Siber led a counter-attack that eventually fell to Mel Filis, who swept the ball home. Hutton had a free kick right on the edge of the box that the keeper pushed round the post, and that was that.
The main beneficiaries of this result are the London City Lionesses. Promotion for us has almost certainly gone now (6 points off top with 9 left to play for), but it was always a long shot anyway.
I agree with it being a fair result, was a good game. It’s another missed opportunity this year however, like last year. With the points we accumulated at the start of the season and how we performed today and against London recently it shows we could have won this league.
it will get more difficult next year.
It will be the same as this season right (Only was Palace in the mix again)?
Other teams will invest. We will do our business on the cheap.
It usually is Charlton philosophy to invest in our youth department anyway. The fact the team are competing at the top end of the Championship should be a testament to something. If we were the other end of the League table I would take your point.
Good chance the teams that come up will be better than whoever goes down as well. Nottingham Forest and Ipswich are currently top of the North and South and they've both invested.
Not to the same level of Newcastle, but Forest if they came up in particular I would imagine will spend enough to at least try and make sure they're in no danger of going straight back down. Ipswich might scale back the investment a bit with the men's team looking like they're going to go down.
Interesting that most of the Clubs we are talking about have (currently) a male equivalent Premier League team.
1-1 was a fair result after we really stepped things up in the second half.
Birmingham were comfortable in the first half and went in front from a kamikaze attempt to play it out from the back. Like Bristol City last week, their passing was much slicker than ours, and they should have had a second when one of their players had a free header that luckily went straight at Sophie Whitehouse. Our one chance in the half came from Jodie Hutton breaking through down the left, but the keeper saved it and we couldn't make the rebound count.
Straight from the restart, though, we improved. Ellie Brazil was played in twice, only to seemingly not trust herself to take the shot on, and we were better at getting the ball out to Hutton, who put in some dangerous crosses that just didn't find a red shirt. Our defence kept Birmingham quiet, and then as added time began Siber led a counter-attack that eventually fell to Mel Filis, who swept the ball home. Hutton had a free kick right on the edge of the box that the keeper pushed round the post, and that was that.
The main beneficiaries of this result are the London City Lionesses. Promotion for us has almost certainly gone now (6 points off top with 9 left to play for), but it was always a long shot anyway.
I agree with it being a fair result, was a good game. It’s another missed opportunity this year however, like last year. With the points we accumulated at the start of the season and how we performed today and against London recently it shows we could have won this league.
it will get more difficult next year.
It will be the same as this season right (Only was Palace in the mix again)?
Other teams will invest. We will do our business on the cheap.
It usually is Charlton philosophy to invest in our youth department anyway. The fact the team are competing at the top end of the Championship should be a testament to something. If we were the other end of the League table I would take your point.
Yes, pretty much everyone who's serious about the WSL or Championship is either in the Premier League or has been there recently. Other than Lionesses who have foreign ownership investing in them. There's only really us and Durham who don't have either Premier League or Championship backing.
Next season could well be tougher than recently, with one of Birmingham or Lionesses replaced by one of Palace or Villa and one of the bottom three replaced by two from below who look like being Forest and Ipswich. But if the plans to expand the WSL go ahead then two or four of the bigger clubs are likely to go up over the next few years so unless there are so many clubs investing that we get overtaken the Championship should become a more realistic target for clubs without mega budgets.
If the teams coming up are decent that could potentially help us in that they can take more points off our rivals. Yes they can take points off us but it can make the league more competetive.
I don't follow the women's game as I already watch too much TV and sport etc. I noticed at a recent Charlton game there were about 200 attendees, officially perhaps 400.
I got on the tube yesterday at Kings X after a few warm down pints and was surprised to see a multitude of red and white scarves which I guessed was down to Arsenal women playing.
I just googled and Arsenal women beat Liverpool 4-0, attendance 35,628.
Newcastle v Sunderland had a record attendance for a women Championship match on Sunday of 38,502 ! This broke the 15 thousand record in the reverse fixture earlier this season.
Amber Keegan Stobbs the Newcastle captain is from Sanderstead, South Croydon and our paths have crossed. Her Dad is a Geordie and that's why Keegan is in her name and she finally got to play for the club she has supported after Washington Spirit, Reading, Everton, West ham, Charlton, Palace, Watford, Lewes and finally Newcastle in '23.'
A journey women semi pro footballer who coaches kids and is living the dream. Amazing to think that out of all the talented boys that had trials with pro teams from my local club, a young very talented female who started off playing in a 'boys team' until she was 9 has gone the furthest: American college football doing her degree and Newcastle !
The money is very much with the big 3 in the WSL with Manchester United under Jim Ratcliffe not keen on backing the girls.
I don't follow the women's game as I already watch too much TV and sport etc. I noticed at a recent Charlton game there were about 200 attendees, officially perhaps 400.
I got on the tube yesterday at Kings X after a few warm down pints and was surprised to see a multitude of red and white scarves which I guessed was down to Arsenal women playing.
I just googled and Arsenal women beat Liverpool 4-0, attendance 35,628.*
I came home from Dover via St Pancras yesterday at about 8pm and there were heaps of families and couples coming back from Arsenal on the high-speed platforms heading back to Kent. It shows what an incredible job they've done marketing the side.**
I just hope Charlton are realising that they need to market the women's matches*** and market them to families who wouldn't necessarily come to men's matches - there's a big local catchment to take advantage of, especially with Palace still playing their matches in Sutton. I keep getting London City Lionesses ads in my Instagram feeds, yet there's nothing from us.
Dulwich women had 663 today for their fourth-tier match against QPR, which is pretty typical for them now - obviously that's a more affluent neighbourhood but that's from marketing being done by volunteers.****
* A bit more WCL related:Newcastle Sunderland had an attendance of 38,502 fans
** Arsenal do their marketing in local areas, and Spurs do theirs on the tube (in Leyton next to where they play Gaughan Group Stadium), also seen advert for Spurs in Wembley. They will attract fans for their football team (brand awareness) name alone.
***- Charlton have not got a bigger budget to do such marketing, doesn't he that big of an outreach but again could be smart with what they do. - Give free tickets to local community groups/school children (or university of greenwich) - advertise with local business - have a better season ticket loyalty scheme
Doubt we have a budget to advertise like Arsenal and Tottenham, but there are ways we can engage the community. ****- We could try this out next season to save costs (a suggestion to the CST perhaps)
The Club are looking for a Commercial Officer if anyone reckons they could do the job.
The big clubs get publicity pay for by the BBC who pay for the television wrights to the WSPL. No other women's football league in this country gets national coverage. Some coverage like ours can be found from the clubs themselves. So you can see why those prem clubs get large attendance.
They were getting larger attendances before the BBC deal though. Part of that is because they're bigger clubs doing better. Part of that is because our club don't promote the women's team enough. How many men's ST holders knew they could get in for free yesterday? The "main" club account did one post about it on Twitter and that was 4/5 days before the game. Yesterday was a make or break game so why weren't there loads of kids from local teams/schools given free tickets? Why didn't we do a ticket bundle for the last 3 home games of the season?
As someone said above, yesterdays game was a great advert for women's football but it's pretty pointless having a good advert for the game with next to no effort to actually get anyone to watch it!
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Birmingham were comfortable in the first half and went in front from a kamikaze attempt to play it out from the back. Like Bristol City last week, their passing was much slicker than ours, and they should have had a second when one of their players had a free header that luckily went straight at Sophie Whitehouse. Our one chance in the half came from Jodie Hutton breaking through down the left, but the keeper saved it and we couldn't make the rebound count.
Straight from the restart, though, we improved. Ellie Brazil was played in twice, only to seemingly not trust herself to take the shot on, and we were better at getting the ball out to Hutton, who put in some dangerous crosses that just didn't find a red shirt. Our defence kept Birmingham quiet, and then as added time began Siber led a counter-attack that eventually fell to Mel Filis, who swept the ball home. Hutton had a free kick right on the edge of the box that the keeper pushed round the post, and that was that.
The main beneficiaries of this result are the London City Lionesses. Promotion for us has almost certainly gone now (6 points off top with 9 left to play for), but it was always a long shot anyway.
it will get more difficult next year.
The coaching team just sat through the first half. No real effort to change things when playing out from the back wasn't working.
Having seen the highlights, I realise I've done Gloria Siber a disservice by saying the ball 'fell' to Mel Filis - Siber knew exactly what she was doing and played a good pass.
Siber isn't the biggest or strongest, but she does have a nice touch on her. It'd be interesting to see her start one of the remaining games, rather than the short cameos she's had so far.
I noticed at a recent Charlton game there were about 200 attendees, officially perhaps 400.
I got on the tube yesterday at Kings X after a few warm down pints and was surprised to see a multitude of red and white scarves which I guessed was down to Arsenal women playing.
I just googled and Arsenal women beat Liverpool 4-0, attendance 35,628.
I spoke to Charlotte at the end whilst she was signing an autograph for my daughter, and said they're hopeful of her being back for the last 2 games, so hopefully will only miss one more game.
The lack of depth has certainly played a part this season if you look at the players we've been missing, Roe, Ross, Primus, Humphrey and Bissell all missing today, and we couldn't even name a full bench - not for the first time this season.
I just hope Charlton are realising that they need to market the women's matches and market them to families who wouldn't necessarily come to men's matches - there's a big local catchment to take advantage of, especially with Palace still playing their matches in Sutton. I keep getting London City Lionesses ads in my Instagram feeds, yet there's nothing from us.
Dulwich women had 663 today for their fourth-tier match against QPR, which is pretty typical for them now - obviously that's a more affluent neighbourhood but that's from marketing being done by volunteers.
* A bit more WCL related: Newcastle Sunderland had an attendance of 38,502 fans
** Arsenal do their marketing in local areas, and Spurs do theirs on the tube (in Leyton next to where they play Gaughan Group Stadium), also seen advert for Spurs in Wembley. They will attract fans for their football team (brand awareness) name alone.
***- Charlton have not got a bigger budget to do such marketing, doesn't he that big of an outreach but again could be smart with what they do.
- Give free tickets to local community groups/school children (or university of greenwich)
- advertise with local business
- have a better season ticket loyalty scheme
Doubt we have a budget to advertise like Arsenal and Tottenham, but there are ways we can engage the community.
****- We could try this out next season to save costs (a suggestion to the CST perhaps)
The Club are looking for a Commercial Officer if anyone reckons they could do the job.
Not to the same level of Newcastle, but Forest if they came up in particular I would imagine will spend enough to at least try and make sure they're in no danger of going straight back down. Ipswich might scale back the investment a bit with the men's team looking like they're going to go down.
It usually is Charlton philosophy to invest in our youth department anyway. The fact the team are competing at the top end of the Championship should be a testament to something. If we were the other end of the League table I would take your point.
Next season could well be tougher than recently, with one of Birmingham or Lionesses replaced by one of Palace or Villa and one of the bottom three replaced by two from below who look like being Forest and Ipswich. But if the plans to expand the WSL go ahead then two or four of the bigger clubs are likely to go up over the next few years so unless there are so many clubs investing that we get overtaken the Championship should become a more realistic target for clubs without mega budgets.
https://x.com/CAFCWomen/status/1904127214813163791
Newcastle v Sunderland had a record attendance for a women Championship match on Sunday of 38,502 !
This broke the 15 thousand record in the reverse fixture earlier this season.
Amber Keegan Stobbs the Newcastle captain is from Sanderstead, South Croydon and our paths have crossed. Her Dad is a Geordie and that's why Keegan is in her name and she finally got to play for the club she has supported after Washington Spirit, Reading, Everton, West ham, Charlton, Palace, Watford, Lewes and finally Newcastle in '23.'
A journey women semi pro footballer who coaches kids and is living the dream. Amazing to think that out of all the talented boys that had trials with pro teams from my local club, a young very talented female who started off playing in a 'boys team' until she was 9 has gone the furthest: American college football doing her degree and Newcastle !
The money is very much with the big 3 in the WSL with Manchester United under Jim Ratcliffe not keen on backing the girls.
So you can see why those prem clubs get large attendance.
As someone said above, yesterdays game was a great advert for women's football but it's pretty pointless having a good advert for the game with next to no effort to actually get anyone to watch it!