I learnt a long time ago that what Robinson says is far less important than why he says it. This evening's Murray arse-licking speaks volumes, as does him dishing the dirt on Duchatlet refusing a part-ex deal on Holmes. The survival instinct has well and truly kicked-in.
I’m clearly a big fan of Robinson but i can’t argue with that either
I still struggle to know if you're being sarcastic in supporting Robinson.
However I have to agree with the above and I genuinely do support him.
I think before the injuries set in, whilst we had quality we were playing tidy football that was penetrative and though the football is not as tidy we are still penetrating sides, we just miss the final touch of quality.
Anybody who thinks that Richard Murray , past , present or future is a good thing for our club is deluded. This man has sat and watched our club get torn apart by an owner and his incompetent sidekick and has said nothing . Absolutely nothing. He is a disgrace and quite frankly I do not know how he sleeps at night. He has no morals , He has no dignity and he has no right to be a part of the future of Charlton Athletic. This is the club we love , the club he claims to support yet for four years he has kept his mouth firmly shut while this club has been systematically destroyed. Richard Murray , do us all a favour and walk away now because if you think anybody trusts you any more you are far more deluded than anyone could imagine.
Before the Forest home game(the first major car park protest) I said to Murray that the Belgians had undone all the good work he had done over the years. His words back to me were "Yes I know, but unless you have 50 million pounds".
With that admittance, he should be ashamed of standing with them.
No doubt there will be the, 'it would have been worse if he had not been working from within' load of boll@x.
I learnt a long time ago that what Robinson says is far less important than why he says it. This evening's Murray arse-licking speaks volumes, as does him dishing the dirt on Duchatlet refusing a part-ex deal on Holmes. The survival instinct has well and truly kicked-in.
I’m clearly a big fan of Robinson but i can’t argue with that either
I still struggle to know if you're being sarcastic in supporting Robinson
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Why would I be sarcastic?
I don’t think I can be any clearer. I think he is a decent manager (not the greatest but decent) who cops a lot of unnecessary stick from fans who made their mind up they didn’t like him from the start, or can’t see anything other than being linked with the regime. Bloke can’t win.
I am pretty ambivalent re Robbo......I tend not to listen to his press conferences and media stuff.......likes to waffle a lot and often talks in drawn out and laborious sound bites, often going round in confused circles! He’s certainly not a bad manager and under the circumstances has done a reasonable enough job considering the incredible injury crisis and trying to deal with the horrendous Belgians. Found himself having to do a hell of a lot of ducking and diving, especially these last few months. Evidently he’s well liked at Sparrows Lane........I wouldn’t be adverse to see him given the chance to prove himself with a decent budget and without the shitty baggage he’s had to lug around.
I am pretty ambivalent re Robbo......I tend not to listen to his press conferences and media stuff.......likes to waffle a lot and often talks in drawn out and laborious sound bites, often going round in confused circles! He’s certainly not a bad manager and under the circumstances has done a reasonable enough job considering the incredible injury crisis and trying to deal with the horrendous Belgians. Found himself having to do a hell of a lot of ducking and diving, especially these last few months. Evidently he’s well liked at Sparrows Lane........I wouldn’t be adverse to see him given the chance to prove himself with a decent budget and without the shitty baggage he’s had to lug around.
I'm in agreement with this.
I have some sympathy with @AFKABartram sentiment as being one undoubtedly against any manager RD brought in. To me it was basis, just another out of work manager doing their dirty work, especially when he was singing RD & KM's praises thinking we are all naive and gullible.
I do believe he really wants to be here and make the club a success although part of his latest outbursts seem self preservation at all costs. Give him a chance? Yes I would.
I learnt a long time ago that what Robinson says is far less important than why he says it. This evening's Murray arse-licking speaks volumes, as does him dishing the dirt on Duchatlet refusing a part-ex deal on Holmes. The survival instinct has well and truly kicked-in.
I’m clearly a big fan of Robinson but i can’t argue with that either
I still struggle to know if you're being sarcastic in supporting Robinson
.
Why would I be sarcastic?
I don’t think I can be any clearer. I think he is a decent manager (not the greatest but decent) who cops a lot of unnecessary stick from fans who made their mind up they didn’t like him from the start, or can’t see anything other than being linked with the regime. Bloke can’t win.
Agree, Robinson can’t win. I have know idea whether he’s a good manager or tactician, clearly a lot of people on here think they are but right now he’s caught in the crossfire and he’s damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t.
What honestly do you expect him to do? Up to now he’s been the clubs only mouthpiece, I’m sure he’d rather not be, surely that’s Murray’s job and hopefully will be later this week.
I don’t think it’s either surprising that he’s going to nail his flag to the nearest mast, and be contradictory because the goalposts keep changing, who wouldn’t?
You only have to take a look at this and the Takeover thread, to see how hysterical we all are, for any snippet of information, however ridiculous it might be. Jumping to conclusions where there aren’t any to jump to.
There’s a few who clearly know something but cant divulge and the rest of us are like a dog chasing its tail. To quote sargent Schultz from Hogans Heroes “ I (we) know nothing.”
Anybody who thinks that Richard Murray , past , present or future is a good thing for our club is deluded. This man has sat and watched our club get torn apart by an owner and his incompetent sidekick and has said nothing . Absolutely nothing. He is a disgrace and quite frankly I do not know how he sleeps at night. He has no morals , He has no dignity and he has no right to be a part of the future of Charlton Athletic. This is the club we love , the club he claims to support yet for four years he has kept his mouth firmly shut while this club has been systematically destroyed. Richard Murray , do us all a favour and walk away now because if you think anybody trusts you any more you are far more deluded than anyone could imagine.
Before the Forest home game(the first major car park protest) I said to Murray that the Belgians had undone all the good work he had done over the years. His words back to me were "Yes I know, but unless you have 50 million pounds".
With that admittance, he should be ashamed of standing with them.
No doubt there will be the, 'it would have been worse if he had not been working from within' load of boll@x.
Yes I said that a while back, "best to stay onside so I can keep an eye on what is going on" so what exactly did that achieve murray ?
karl slagging off the current owner is a survival plea, end of the day the guys got a family and he probably needs this job i cant imagine hes on a huge salary, but it has its perks, big ground, nice location, even with the current shenanigans a big fan base compared to rest of the league. if the new guys come in and want to replace karl with someone else i wont mind, equally hes done enough to warrant a go for the rest of the season, as a club i think with have aspirations above league 1 and hopefully up the football ladder i don't see Karl as the man to do it, doesn't mean i hate him just think league 1 is his level.
I would like to see what he can do with a bit of support. Whether he gets that chance or not is beyond our control, but I do think he has earned that much.
I can't see a takeover happening this week, we may get an update of sorts but I think any talk of definitive news was more about possible inward transfers (free signings or more blooming loans).
I can't see a takeover happening this week, we may get an update of sorts but I think any talk of definitive news was more about possible inward transfers (free signings or more blooming loans).
It’s pretty hard to know anything for sure though isn’t it? Sounds like bloody chaos.
I can't see a takeover happening this week, we may get an update of sorts but I think any talk of definitive news was more about possible inward transfers (free signings or more blooming loans).
It’s pretty hard to know anything for sure though isn’t it? Sounds like bloody chaos.
It has been chaos ever since Roly HUHd his way into the club.
On the bit about Murray putting in his own money. Wasn't it suggested a few weeks ago that Murray may have agreed to pay Bests wages in order to make sure he was brought in.
On the bit about Murray putting in his own money. Wasn't it suggested a few weeks ago that Murray may have agreed to pay Bests wages in order to make sure he was brought in.
I learnt a long time ago that what Robinson says is far less important than why he says it. This evening's Murray arse-licking speaks volumes, as does him dishing the dirt on Duchatlet refusing a part-ex deal on Holmes. The survival instinct has well and truly kicked-in.
I’m clearly a big fan of Robinson but i can’t argue with that either
I still struggle to know if you're being sarcastic in supporting Robinson
.
Why would I be sarcastic?
I don’t think I can be any clearer. I think he is a decent manager (not the greatest but decent) who cops a lot of unnecessary stick from fans who made their mind up they didn’t like him from the start, or can’t see anything other than being linked with the regime. Bloke can’t win.
It's the interweb and tone cannot be read, it can only be assumed.... With many of our posters being extremely sarcastic it can be hard to tell at times!
I do think he's worth keeping on, until at least May, then decide on who leads us into the new season.
On the bit about Murray putting in his own money. Wasn't it suggested a few weeks ago that Murray may have agreed to pay Bests wages in order to make sure he was brought in.
I learnt a long time ago that what Robinson says is far less important than why he says it. This evening's Murray arse-licking speaks volumes, as does him dishing the dirt on Duchatlet refusing a part-ex deal on Holmes. The survival instinct has well and truly kicked-in.
I’m clearly a big fan of Robinson but i can’t argue with that either
I still struggle to know if you're being sarcastic in supporting Robinson
.
Why would I be sarcastic?
I don’t think I can be any clearer. I think he is a decent manager (not the greatest but decent) who cops a lot of unnecessary stick from fans who made their mind up they didn’t like him from the start, or can’t see anything other than being linked with the regime. Bloke can’t win.
It's the interweb and tone cannot be read, it can only be assumed.... With many of our posters being extremely sarcastic it can be hard to tell at times!
I do think he's worth keeping on, until at least May, then decide on who leads us into the new season.
if a new owner came in this week would you trust him with a budget in this window? Also would you let him spend anything unless you were definitely going to let him continue next season? I'm not a fan of his and I don't think he can lead us out of this League. Injuries have not helped, I'll admit that, but his intransigence when it comes to 4-5-1, the inability to change formation during a game and some questionable 'purchases' lead me to think that. The fact that he also can't keep his gob shut and makes statements that he then later contradicts or back tracks on don't endear him to me either.
I learnt a long time ago that what Robinson says is far less important than why he says it. This evening's Murray arse-licking speaks volumes, as does him dishing the dirt on Duchatlet refusing a part-ex deal on Holmes. The survival instinct has well and truly kicked-in.
I’m clearly a big fan of Robinson but i can’t argue with that either
I still struggle to know if you're being sarcastic in supporting Robinson
.
Why would I be sarcastic?
I don’t think I can be any clearer. I think he is a decent manager (not the greatest but decent) who cops a lot of unnecessary stick from fans who made their mind up they didn’t like him from the start, or can’t see anything other than being linked with the regime. Bloke can’t win.
It's the interweb and tone cannot be read, it can only be assumed.... With many of our posters being extremely sarcastic it can be hard to tell at times!
I do think he's worth keeping on, until at least May, then decide on who leads us into the new season.
if a new owner came in this week would you trust him with a budget in this window? Also would you let him spend anything unless you were definitely going to let him continue next season? I'm not a fan of his and I don't think he can lead us out of this League. Injuries have not helped, I'll admit that, but his intransigence when it comes to 4-5-1, the inability to change formation during a game and some questionable 'purchases' lead me to think that. The fact that he also can't keep his gob shut and makes statements that he then later contradicts or back tracks on don't endear him to me either.
Yes I would give him a budget this season.
Yes I would let him spend some money, letting him know failure to at least make the playoffs will result in a P.45.
I think in the summer it was very much his decision on a few signings, but I also believe players such as Dodoo were forced onto him as recommendations instead of the players he actually wanted.
What I believe and would do, really doesn't matter though... New owners will be funding their own choices.
On the bit about Murray putting in his own money. Wasn't it suggested a few weeks ago that Murray may have agreed to pay Bests wages in order to make sure he was brought in.
On the bit about Murray putting in his own money. Wasn't it suggested a few weeks ago that Murray may have agreed to pay Bests wages in order to make sure he was brought in.
On the bit about Murray putting in his own money. Wasn't it suggested a few weeks ago that Murray may have agreed to pay Bests wages in order to make sure he was brought in.
It was a guess on my part though. No evidence.
Fake news media (airman) trying to bring down your favourite football owner (Roland) of all time. Sad.
"RM has been great for our club in so many ways and has put his own money in when needed."
- unless this is an intentional wind-up, some people just don't get it. Duchatelet hasn't put a bean in until he settles the debt mountain he's piled-up. If someone else pays that, as he hopes, he will not have put a penny in and he has turned us into a proper League One club with the prospect of League Two at some point.
I read the " we might do something early next week" comment , as we might get a player in (probs Carruthers)
No, it was referring to the takeover & KR saying that he thinks someone (probably RM) will say more about the takeover early this week.
I think it was more the fact that KR doesn't know what's going on & wants someone higher up to clarify things rather than for him to have to answer questions on it all the time.
I read the " we might do something early next week" comment , as we might get a player in (probs Carruthers)
No, it was referring to the takeover & KR saying that he thinks someone (probably RM) will say more about the takeover early this week.
I think it was more the fact that KR doesn't know what's going on & wants someone higher up to clarify things rather than for him to have to answer questions on it all the time.
and he's right. He should bat all questions about the takeover back to RM and leave it at that.
KR been hung out to dry on this, he's having to field every question on the takeover, and the state of the club, no wonder the frustrations boil over.
I'm a fan of KR, think he's the spark the club needs, and to still be in contention for the play offs, with the limits imposed has impressed me from afar
I can't see a takeover happening this week, we may get an update of sorts but I think any talk of definitive news was more about possible inward transfers (free signings or more blooming loans).
It’s pretty hard to know anything for sure though isn’t it? Sounds like bloody chaos.
It has been chaos ever since Roly HUHd his way into the club.
Sounds like it was chaos under the previous regieme too. Maybe it's just our natural state and 1998-2008 was just an anomaly ?
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However I have to agree with the above and I genuinely do support him.
I think before the injuries set in, whilst we had quality we were playing tidy football that was penetrative and though the football is not as tidy we are still penetrating sides, we just miss the final touch of quality.
No doubt there will be the, 'it would have been worse if he had not been working from within' load of boll@x.
I don’t think I can be any clearer. I think he is a decent manager (not the greatest but decent) who cops a lot of unnecessary stick from fans who made their mind up they didn’t like him from the start, or can’t see anything other than being linked with the regime. Bloke can’t win.
He’s certainly not a bad manager and under the circumstances has done a reasonable enough job considering the incredible injury crisis and trying to deal with the horrendous Belgians.
Found himself having to do a hell of a lot of ducking and diving, especially these last few months.
Evidently he’s well liked at Sparrows Lane........I wouldn’t be adverse to see him given the chance to prove himself with a decent budget and without the shitty baggage he’s had to lug around.
I have some sympathy with @AFKABartram sentiment as being one undoubtedly against any manager RD brought in. To me it was basis, just another out of work manager doing their dirty work, especially when he was singing RD & KM's praises thinking we are all naive and gullible.
I do believe he really wants to be here and make the club a success although part of his latest outbursts seem self preservation at all costs. Give him a chance? Yes I would.
What honestly do you expect him to do? Up to now he’s been the clubs only mouthpiece, I’m sure he’d rather not be, surely that’s Murray’s job and hopefully will be later this week.
I don’t think it’s either surprising that he’s going to nail his flag to the nearest mast, and be contradictory because the goalposts keep changing, who wouldn’t?
You only have to take a look at this and the Takeover thread, to see how hysterical we all are, for any snippet of information, however ridiculous it might be. Jumping to conclusions where there aren’t any to jump to.
There’s a few who clearly know something but cant divulge and the rest of us are like a dog chasing its tail. To quote sargent Schultz from Hogans Heroes “ I (we) know nothing.”
Give the bloke a break.
Karl outburst , must mean (I hope) that the take over is close.
I do trust Roland, he will hang out for much he can get.
I am really scared that he will hang on to the freehold of the valley.
I want him off, lock stock and barrel.
However the level of debts may leave millions of charges attached to the freehold of the Valley.
I will never go to a match at the Valley, with Roland holding on to the Freehold.
I do think he's worth keeping on, until at least May, then decide on who leads us into the new season.
Yes I would let him spend some money, letting him know failure to at least make the playoffs will result in a P.45.
I think in the summer it was very much his decision on a few signings, but I also believe players such as Dodoo were forced onto him as recommendations instead of the players he actually wanted.
What I believe and would do, really doesn't matter though... New owners will be funding their own choices.
Rumour that it could go through as early as this coming weekend and some sort of announcement by the club midweek.
I can’t help thinking that we are still some way off any conclusion. Surely if one party were that close the others would have dropped out.
My guess is that if the club announce anything it’s just going to be that talks are ongoing and that’s it. It’s either done or it isn’t.
Again a guess but I think we are still weeks away.
I think it was more the fact that KR doesn't know what's going on & wants someone higher up to clarify things rather than for him to have to answer questions on it all the time.
I'm a fan of KR, think he's the spark the club needs, and to still be in contention for the play offs, with the limits imposed has impressed me from afar
I demand to be told absolutely sod all about the takeover that's not going to happen NOW!!!!!!!