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Robinson talking to fans again (pre-Bury)

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  • Red_in_SE8
    Red_in_SE8 Posts: 5,961

    Are there any other examples in the history of English football of a manager informing the fans of the club he manages that the owner is a bastard ?

    I think it is an indication that Robinson is pretty certain that Roland won't be the owner for much longer.
  • HantsAddick
    HantsAddick Posts: 2,423

    Are there any other examples in the history of English football of a manager informing the fans of the club he manages that the owner is a bastard ?

    I think it is an indication that Robinson is pretty certain that Roland won't be the owner for much longer.
    Or he won't be manager much longer. Or both.
  • i_b_b_o_r_g
    i_b_b_o_r_g Posts: 18,948
    I think one thing we can be sure is that, come February, we'll either have a new owner or new manager.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,367

    Are there any other examples in the history of English football of a manager informing the fans of the club he manages that the owner is a bastard ?

    I think it is an indication that Robinson is pretty certain that Roland won't be the owner for much longer.
    Agree but would be more confident if Karl said it in a press conference.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,993

    I hope what Karl has been told is true, as like everyone else just desperate for all of this to be done.

    If this is true then I am assuming the Holmes sale is not the only sale that has been agreed to be done to go in Roland's wallet.

    As I can't imagine Sheffield United are willing to pay more then something around the 500k to 700k mark for a 31 year old who has never played in the second tier.

    That does not seem a lot of money to make the difference between a sale being off or on.

    It covers another month’s losses, so buys him time to get any deal over the line without racking up further losses.

  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,367
    bobmunro said:

    I hope what Karl has been told is true, as like everyone else just desperate for all of this to be done.

    If this is true then I am assuming the Holmes sale is not the only sale that has been agreed to be done to go in Roland's wallet.

    As I can't imagine Sheffield United are willing to pay more then something around the 500k to 700k mark for a 31 year old who has never played in the second tier.

    That does not seem a lot of money to make the difference between a sale being off or on.

    It covers another month’s losses, so buys him time to get any deal over the line without racking up further losses.

    That was what I hope it means but I'm not convinced.
  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    If Robinson continues to insult Mr Duchatelet he may end up talking himself out of a job.
  • Holmes would've left anyway if we had not been in the top two and Shef U came back in
  • eaststandmike
    eaststandmike Posts: 14,956
    PopIcon said:

    If Robinson continues to insult Mr Duchatelet he may end up talking himself out of a job.

    This, he needs to be careful as RD is still the owner.

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  • daveydanger
    daveydanger Posts: 1,340
    PopIcon said:

    If Robinson continues to insult Mr Duchatelet he may end up talking himself out of a job.

    The ultimate prank - RD appoints Nobby V on his way into the office to sign over the club.
  • bertpalmer
    bertpalmer Posts: 1,776
    win lose or draw today cant wait for the after match conference
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,993
    PopIcon said:

    If Robinson continues to insult Mr Duchatelet he may end up talking himself out of a job.

    I think that’s his agenda anyway.

  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,819
    bobmunro said:

    PopIcon said:

    If Robinson continues to insult Mr Duchatelet he may end up talking himself out of a job.

    I think that’s his agenda anyway.

    Spot on.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,367
    bobmunro said:

    PopIcon said:

    If Robinson continues to insult Mr Duchatelet he may end up talking himself out of a job.

    I think that’s his agenda anyway.

    I think the risk he takes is that new owners will hear of this and see him as unreliable.

    Regardless KR knows RD won't be supportive so he might as well try to build alliances elsewhere.
  • Cardinal Sin
    Cardinal Sin Posts: 5,233
    It will be interesting to see what's actually meant by 'debt management.' No-one can realistically expect to get much more from the operating budget after five years of resource cuts and budget trimming. The big debt that Duchatelet has added to the club through his poor leadership and Meire's naive management is simply money spent. No amount of financial chicanery is going to change that. Sooner or later it needs to be settled.
  • limeygent
    limeygent Posts: 3,219
    Maybe KR has met with the new owners and knows his job is safe?
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,227

    There is no reason to buy the club if your intention is simply to run it with smaller losses - you may as well burn the cash now in your back garden and save yourself the trouble.

    Whatever the logic might be for running the club differently, we would not be the first club to just switch one terrible owner for another.
  • SOTF
    SOTF Posts: 1,151
    edited January 2018
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  • Mametz
    Mametz Posts: 1,262
    All of these shenanigans remind me of the film " Downfall" about the last days of Hitler and the Nazi rule. A regime that was always rotten to the core is now falling apart and various apparatchiks re-positioning themselves.

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  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,075
    Ricky Holmes was pictured in the hotel at the corner‎ of Sheffield United's ground prior to Friday's Steel City derby with Sheffield Wenesday.

    Charlton are staying overnight in the Manchester area ahead of Saturday's clash with Bury, but it is difficult to see how Holmes can be in the right frame of mind to play in the game.
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    limeygent said:

    Maybe KR has met with the new owners and knows his job is safe?

    FFS, don't say that !
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,075
    Sheffield United midfielder Samir Carruthers could be drafted into a deal which will see the player join Charlton Athletic with Ricky Holmes moving in the opposite direction according to News Shopper.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,367
    limeygent said:

    Maybe KR has met with the new owners and knows his job is safe?

    Maybe. If it is McLeish then it would be easy as Bowyer and McLeish have the same agent.

    Still think he's playing a risky game.
  • barstool said:

    No perspective owner would takeover a business or worse a FC without proper DD and a sound business plan. Roland aside, because he had a communist view, they will have money otherwise why bother. The good thing will be fresh ideas and they certainly will have a pot for the playing staff as well as covering the costs. They will also be aware of the current plight and the transfer window so its a deadline for everyone. Roland knows that to, so its his chance to get out before the protest start again so he needs it to happen as much as the buyers

    Without proper Due Diligence !

    Lloyds Bank bought HBOS without proper DD. This nearly ruined them and ultimately cost them over £20 Billion. A tad more than this deal will hinge on.

    Sounds to me like we will be one of the most well managed clubs financially in leauge 2. Can't wait.
    RBS/ABNAmro.
  • Blucher
    Blucher Posts: 4,163
    As well as distancing himself from the regime, KR is probably also seeking to protect his reputation within the wider game in case he is either sacked by Roland or (more likely) the new owners want to appoint a new manager. You can't really blame him but it's certainly a high risk strategy - it's one thing to call your employer an idiot and a bastard; it's quite another to publicy tell others that you have done so.
  • It will be interesting to see what's actually meant by 'debt management.' No-one can realistically expect to get much more from the operating budget after five years of resource cuts and budget trimming. The big debt that Duchatelet has added to the club through his poor leadership and Meire's naive management is simply money spent. No amount of financial chicanery is going to change that. Sooner or later it needs to be settled.

    Although I tend to agree, I'm mindful of the fact that Duchâtelet has found a way to extricate himself from other football clubs he's degraded, without suffering the financial consequences.

    Based on his past actions, I've no doubt he'll do whatever is necessary to save face and recoup as much cash as possible, the result of that may well impact on our football club for years to come.
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,702

    PopIcon said:

    If Robinson continues to insult Mr Duchatelet he may end up talking himself out of a job.

    This, he needs to be careful as RD is still the owner.
    He'll get his payoff either way.

    Hearsay is not adequate proof of gross misconduct.
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,325
    edited January 2018

    Uboat said:

    We need to keep all this stuff on one thread. Can someone from admin clean this up please.

    What thread do you suggest it goes onto................The takeover one, Bury match preview, the car park one or Robinson out ???

    Just asking.
    Is there a Roland is a bastard thread?
    Is he related to the TV detector gentleman from the Young Ones?

    The name's Bastard, but you can call me right bleed'n
  • Rob
    Rob Posts: 11,936
    Well, I said by the end of Jan in the poll so that's a result. :-)

    We'll see though.

    Just get out Douche.