West Ham

Mendonca In Asdas

Rumoured to have sacked Bilic tonight ( on motd) David Moyes rumoured to be taking over on Monday, they did look a shambles against Liverpool tonight, but in my opinion, have got some shocking players, particularly in the midfield area.

Edit please close, just seen the other thread!

Brendan_O_Connell

Don't want any more African players, allegedly......

ForeverAddickted

Guess that's understandable the way the African Nations Cup can mess up a season

eaststandmike

Brendan_O_Connell said:

Don't want any more African players, allegedly......

Is this a problem then? Surely a club & manager can pick and choose who they want in the squad.

Chris_from_Sidcup

ForeverAddickted said:

Guess that's understandable the way the African Nations Cup can mess up a season

Starting with the next tournament (2019), it's been agreed to host the AN Cup in June/July for that exact reason

ForeverAddickted

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

ForeverAddickted said:

Guess that's understandable the way the African Nations Cup can mess up a season

Starting with the next tournament (2019), it's been agreed to host the AN Cup in June/July for that exact reason

Good... Although further to what Brendan posted it does seem a bit stupid from the bloke who said it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42898043

soapy_jones

Personally I think the end of the email, where he ties to flog the Double Ended 14" Three Speed Anal Intruder, is more offensive...

MrOneLung

I like the way ability is one of the things they don’t discriminate against !

PragueAddick

The dream is still on. Unbelievably tight at the bottom, especially with Swansea resurgent.

Baldybonce

soapy_jones said:

Personally I think the end of the email, where he ties to flog the Double Ended 14" Three Speed Anal Intruder, is more offensive...

PragueAddick said:

The dream is still on. Unbelievably tight at the bottom, especially with Swansea resurgent.

Only on CL could you get a three speed anal intruder and unbelievably tight at the bottom within 3 posts.

SELR_addicks

"A report in the Daily Mail alleged that Tony Henry told an agent that West Ham wanted to limit the number of African players in their squad. He told the paper this was because some “have a bad attitude” and “cause mayhem” when they are not in the team."

So much for African Cup of Nations being the reason...

PragueAddick

It gets worse :-)))) Loving this stuff that Leicester refused to sell Slimani to them because Brady had been gobbing off in her Sun column.

eaststandmike

SELR_addicks said:

"A report in the Daily Mail alleged that Tony Henry told an agent that West Ham wanted to limit the number of African players in their squad. He told the paper this was because some “have a bad attitude” and “cause mayhem” when they are not in the team."

So much for African Cup of Nations being the reason...

If that quote from Tony Henry is true and the club really feel this way I say the statement is a fair one. I am not aware there is a quota system in football so West Ham are entitled to buy who they want.

cfgs

PragueAddick said:

It gets worse :-)))) Loving this stuff that Leicester refused to sell Slimani to them because Brady had been gobbing off in her Sun column.

People in football, or at least in administrative roles shouldn't have newspaper columns. Like Simon Jordan you just end up upsetting people by commenting on things that have nothing to do with you, although Simon is a twat and upsets people by breathing.

ForeverAddickted

eaststandmike said:

SELR_addicks said:

"A report in the Daily Mail alleged that Tony Henry told an agent that West Ham wanted to limit the number of African players in their squad. He told the paper this was because some “have a bad attitude” and “cause mayhem” when they are not in the team."

So much for African Cup of Nations being the reason...

If that quote from Tony Henry is true and the club really feel this way I say the statement is a fair one. I am not aware there is a quota system in football so West Ham are entitled to buy who they want.

Agreed, they should be allowed to buy who they want

But I reckon there is a better, more "diplomatic" way of saying that now

LargeAddick

eaststandmike said:

SELR_addicks said:

"A report in the Daily Mail alleged that Tony Henry told an agent that West Ham wanted to limit the number of African players in their squad. He told the paper this was because some “have a bad attitude” and “cause mayhem” when they are not in the team."

So much for African Cup of Nations being the reason...

If that quote from Tony Henry is true and the club really feel this way I say the statement is a fair one. I am not aware there is a quota system in football so West Ham are entitled to buy who they want.

if that in their experience is true then I don't see the problem. Can't see that what he said is racist.

Baldybonce

LargeAddick said:

eaststandmike said:

SELR_addicks said:

"A report in the Daily Mail alleged that Tony Henry told an agent that West Ham wanted to limit the number of African players in their squad. He told the paper this was because some “have a bad attitude” and “cause mayhem” when they are not in the team."

So much for African Cup of Nations being the reason...

If that quote from Tony Henry is true and the club really feel this way I say the statement is a fair one. I am not aware there is a quota system in football so West Ham are entitled to buy who they want.

if that in their experience is true then I don't see the problem. Can't see that what he said is racist.

Fear not! Someone will.

McBobbin

Baldybonce said:

LargeAddick said:

eaststandmike said:

SELR_addicks said:

"A report in the Daily Mail alleged that Tony Henry told an agent that West Ham wanted to limit the number of African players in their squad. He told the paper this was because some “have a bad attitude” and “cause mayhem” when they are not in the team."

So much for African Cup of Nations being the reason...

If that quote from Tony Henry is true and the club really feel this way I say the statement is a fair one. I am not aware there is a quota system in football so West Ham are entitled to buy who they want.

if that in their experience is true then I don't see the problem. Can't see that what he said is racist.

Fear not! Someone will.

Surely nobody could have a problem with a vast, populous and diverse entire continent being tarred with a single brush?

Henry Irving

LargeAddick said:

eaststandmike said:

SELR_addicks said:

"A report in the Daily Mail alleged that Tony Henry told an agent that West Ham wanted to limit the number of African players in their squad. He told the paper this was because some “have a bad attitude” and “cause mayhem” when they are not in the team."

So much for African Cup of Nations being the reason...

If that quote from Tony Henry is true and the club really feel this way I say the statement is a fair one. I am not aware there is a quota system in football so West Ham are entitled to buy who they want.

if that in their experience is true then I don't see the problem. Can't see that what he said is racist.

Staggered.

It is the very definition of racism.

They are saying we are not employing anyone else from a particular continent with a population of over 1 billion because we have decided that all of them "have a bad attitude" on the alleged behaviour of one or two players.

Di Canio pushed over a referee = all Italians attack refs so we're not buying any more.

Sweeping negative generalisations about a particular groups of people = racism.

Henry Irving

McBobbin said:

Baldybonce said:

LargeAddick said:

eaststandmike said:

SELR_addicks said:

"A report in the Daily Mail alleged that Tony Henry told an agent that West Ham wanted to limit the number of African players in their squad. He told the paper this was because some “have a bad attitude” and “cause mayhem” when they are not in the team."

So much for African Cup of Nations being the reason...

If that quote from Tony Henry is true and the club really feel this way I say the statement is a fair one. I am not aware there is a quota system in football so West Ham are entitled to buy who they want.

if that in their experience is true then I don't see the problem. Can't see that what he said is racist.

Fear not! Someone will.

Surely nobody could have a problem with a vast, populous and diverse entire continent being tarred with a single brush?

Mark Fish and Shaun Barlett = bad attitude and cause mayhem.

And better watch Fosu and Kashi too if they get dropped.

Better stick to really committed "European" players like Watt and Holmes

eaststandmike

Henry Irving said:

LargeAddick said:

eaststandmike said:

SELR_addicks said:

"A report in the Daily Mail alleged that Tony Henry told an agent that West Ham wanted to limit the number of African players in their squad. He told the paper this was because some “have a bad attitude” and “cause mayhem” when they are not in the team."

So much for African Cup of Nations being the reason...

If that quote from Tony Henry is true and the club really feel this way I say the statement is a fair one. I am not aware there is a quota system in football so West Ham are entitled to buy who they want.

if that in their experience is true then I don't see the problem. Can't see that what he said is racist.

Staggered.

It is the very definition of racism.

They are saying we are not employing anyone else from a particular continent with a population of over 1 billion because we have decided that all of them "have a bad attitude" on the alleged behaviour of one or two players.

Di Canio pushed over a referee = all Italians attack refs so we're not buying any more.

Sweeping negative generalisations about a particular groups of people = racism.

But the quote that came out of West Ham said "some" have a bad attitude not "all" of them. So they were not referring to an entire continent containing millions of people

if the club have given it go signing players from a particular continent and it has not worked out because "some" of the players have a bad attitude then they are within their rights to look elsewhere.

Not Racist

Big_Bad_World

Henry Irving said:

LargeAddick said:

eaststandmike said:

SELR_addicks said:

"A report in the Daily Mail alleged that Tony Henry told an agent that West Ham wanted to limit the number of African players in their squad. He told the paper this was because some “have a bad attitude” and “cause mayhem” when they are not in the team."

So much for African Cup of Nations being the reason...

If that quote from Tony Henry is true and the club really feel this way I say the statement is a fair one. I am not aware there is a quota system in football so West Ham are entitled to buy who they want.

if that in their experience is true then I don't see the problem. Can't see that what he said is racist.

Staggered.

It is the very definition of racism.

They are saying we are not employing anyone else from a particular continent with a population of over 1 billion because we have decided that all of them "have a bad attitude" on the alleged behaviour of one or two players.

Di Canio pushed over a referee = all Italians attack refs so we're not buying any more.

Sweeping negative generalisations about a particular groups of people = racism.

You seem to have only quoted the 'bad attitude' bit. Can everyone surmise that the 'all of them' reference was just you adding it in for effect and wasn't said, at any point, by anyone?

You also seem to have misread the 'some' part of SELR's post and have, instead, spelt it as being 'all'.

Big difference and probably why you have incorrectly concluded.

Henry Irving

eaststandmike said:

Henry Irving said:

LargeAddick said:

eaststandmike said:

SELR_addicks said:

"A report in the Daily Mail alleged that Tony Henry told an agent that West Ham wanted to limit the number of African players in their squad. He told the paper this was because some “have a bad attitude” and “cause mayhem” when they are not in the team."

So much for African Cup of Nations being the reason...

If that quote from Tony Henry is true and the club really feel this way I say the statement is a fair one. I am not aware there is a quota system in football so West Ham are entitled to buy who they want.

if that in their experience is true then I don't see the problem. Can't see that what he said is racist.

Staggered.

It is the very definition of racism.

They are saying we are not employing anyone else from a particular continent with a population of over 1 billion because we have decided that all of them "have a bad attitude" on the alleged behaviour of one or two players.

Di Canio pushed over a referee = all Italians attack refs so we're not buying any more.

Sweeping negative generalisations about a particular groups of people = racism.

But the quote that came out of West Ham said "some" have a bad attitude not "all" of them. So they were not referring to an entire continent containing millions of people

if the club have given it go signing players from a particular continent and it has not worked out because "some" of the players have a bad attitude then they are within their rights to look elsewhere.

Not Racist

"Some" white people have a bad attitude so let's limit the number of them we employ.

Nothing racist in that?

As soon as you go from the specific ("Some") to general ("limit the number") it is racist.

Tony Watt = bad attitude so lets "limit the number" of Scottish players.

Or maybe clubs could employ people based on their own abilities and own attitudes rather than assuming that because the last bloke from Scotland/Africa was bad then the next one might be.

Racist all day long which is why he's been suspended.

LargeAddick

eaststandmike said:

Henry Irving said:

LargeAddick said:

eaststandmike said:

SELR_addicks said:

"A report in the Daily Mail alleged that Tony Henry told an agent that West Ham wanted to limit the number of African players in their squad. He told the paper this was because some “have a bad attitude” and “cause mayhem” when they are not in the team."

So much for African Cup of Nations being the reason...

If that quote from Tony Henry is true and the club really feel this way I say the statement is a fair one. I am not aware there is a quota system in football so West Ham are entitled to buy who they want.

if that in their experience is true then I don't see the problem. Can't see that what he said is racist.

Staggered.

It is the very definition of racism.

They are saying we are not employing anyone else from a particular continent with a population of over 1 billion because we have decided that all of them "have a bad attitude" on the alleged behaviour of one or two players.

Di Canio pushed over a referee = all Italians attack refs so we're not buying any more.

Sweeping negative generalisations about a particular groups of people = racism.

But the quote that came out of West Ham said "some" have a bad attitude not "all" of them. So they were not referring to an entire continent containing millions of people

if the club have given it go signing players from a particular continent and it has not worked out because "some" of the players have a bad attitude then they are within their rights to look elsewhere.

Not Racist

I agree totally.

Grapevine49

The action of determining to not buy players from a certain ethnic background is by definition racist.

The assertion that players of a certain ethnic background possess character flaws in making their contribution to your organisation over and above those of other nationalities is racial profiling and discriminatory.

Any organisation is entitled to employ who they wish they cannot however discriminate against any individual on the basis of their sex, race, creed or religion in making such decision. Such discrimination is illegal.

The statement made as reported appears to discriminate against players from a certain ethnic background.

The stated recruitment process specifically excluded the consideration of a certain player or players, not based on any specific individual analysis but on a generic ethnic profile.

SheffieldRed

Wouldn’t have expected this from Thierry’s brother.

Jints

As Henry says, it's pretty much the definition of racism.

Our of 7 African players, WH have decided that "some" have a "bad attitude". Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that it is true that those players do have a bad attitude.

On the basis of somewhere between 2 and 6 African players, WH have decided that it will no longer employ any African players at all.

WH is assuming on the basis of a tiny sample size that there is a higher risk that African players will have a bad attitude than non-African players.

In other words African players are more likely to have a bad attitude than non-African players.

If that isn't racism, what on earth is it?

PragueAddick

Henry Irving said:

McBobbin said:

Baldybonce said:

LargeAddick said:

eaststandmike said:

SELR_addicks said:

"A report in the Daily Mail alleged that Tony Henry told an agent that West Ham wanted to limit the number of African players in their squad. He told the paper this was because some “have a bad attitude” and “cause mayhem” when they are not in the team."

So much for African Cup of Nations being the reason...

If that quote from Tony Henry is true and the club really feel this way I say the statement is a fair one. I am not aware there is a quota system in football so West Ham are entitled to buy who they want.

if that in their experience is true then I don't see the problem. Can't see that what he said is racist.

Fear not! Someone will.

Surely nobody could have a problem with a vast, populous and diverse entire continent being tarred with a single brush?

Mark Fish and Shaun Barlett = bad attitude and cause mayhem.

And better watch Fosu and Kashi too if they get dropped.

Better stick to really committed "European" players like Watt and Holmes

To be fair, that business with the glass coffee table sounds like the very definition of mayhem :-)

Henry Irving

One less racist in the game. Good.

Riviera

Henry Irving said:

One less racist in the game. Good.

But still on earth. Bad.

Robbo on the wing

FFS here they come