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Born in Chelmsford... Can still play for England...blackpool72 said:
Fox is WelshCallumcafc said:----------Pope
--Solly Gomez Konsa Fox
Wilson Parker Arter Harriott
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Agreed. Needs to work on his first touch.Callumcafc said:
To be fair I don't think that's the main thing stopping this from becoming reality.blackpool72 said:
Fox is WelshCallumcafc said:----------Pope
--Solly Gomez Konsa Fox
Wilson Parker Arter Harriott
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Can't believe you are all missing the bleeding obvious:
Number oneeeeee is Ricky Holmes...
Number twooo ooo is Ricky Holmes.....
You can tell I'm struggling to get interested in the England team.....1 -
Butland
Walker, jones, stones, rose
Lallana, Dier, Alli
Vardy, Kane, rashford0 -
Definitely Darren Bent rather than Theo Walcott. Oh hang on...2
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I would go with:
Butland
Walker - Stones - Cahill - Rose
Dier - Lallana (plays here for liverpool on occasions and adds creativity)
Sterling - Alli - Rashford
Kane
Not overly happy at CB and do like Maguire & Keane but not too sure if i would start them, against inferior teams i would swap Dier (as he is more defensive) for Drinkwater or Henderson. Sterling is doing well so far for City so gets in ahead of Vardy on the wing.2 -
Thats pretty much what I wrote down tbh.Red_James said:I would go with:
Butland
Walker - Stones - Cahill - Rose
Dier - Lallana (plays here for liverpool on occasions and adds creativity)
Sterling - Alli - Rashford
Kane
Not overly happy at CB and do like Maguire & Keane but not too sure if i would start them, against inferior teams i would swap Dier (as he is more defensive) for Drinkwater or Henderson. Sterling is doing well so far for City so gets in ahead of Vardy on the wing.
The beauty of Dier playing as the holding midfielder means England can do 3-5-2 without the ball if necessary. England definitely need someone deeper with a bit of creativity. I know he is injured and is out of favour but if Barkley moves on in January, he may be the one to do a job in there. Otherwise, I'd give Winks a go as he does actually look to pass the ball forward and will bring the ball forward, unlike bloody Henderson.1 -
Agreed on the 3-5-2 special with the 2 fullbacks having plenty of pace even if they are Clyne, Trippier or Bertand.JohnBoyUK said:
Thats pretty much what I wrote down tbh.Red_James said:I would go with:
Butland
Walker - Stones - Cahill - Rose
Dier - Lallana (plays here for liverpool on occasions and adds creativity)
Sterling - Alli - Rashford
Kane
Not overly happy at CB and do like Maguire & Keane but not too sure if i would start them, against inferior teams i would swap Dier (as he is more defensive) for Drinkwater or Henderson. Sterling is doing well so far for City so gets in ahead of Vardy on the wing.
The beauty of Dier playing as the holding midfielder means England can do 3-5-2 without the ball if necessary. England definitely need someone deeper with a bit of creativity. I know he is injured and is out of favour but if Barkley moves on in January, he may be the one to do a job in there. Otherwise, I'd give Winks a go as he does actually look to pass the ball forward and will bring the ball forward, unlike bloody Henderson.
Yeah i personally like Barkley but would play him as CAM i don't think he could do it as CM (tracking back or making tackles) where Lallana is Liverpool's best play at applying pressure and winning the ball back. I like Winks would be a good alternative but perhaps a gamble compared to Henderson/Drinkwater (only to do with age and experience) but would definitely take him0 -
Butland
Walker/ Jones/ Cahill/ Rose
Wilshere/ Henderson or Winks (If latter makes regular appearance for spurs, not really a huge fan of henderson but think this is a our weakest area) Dier would be a good squad player
Sterling/ Ali/ Rashford
Kane
Or a 343 with Smalling or Stones chucked in the back, could play Wilshere CDM and Ali CAM and front 3 as above as inside forwards.
Doesn't look too great from here, but if Greece can win a big one or Leicester the premier league, who knows
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If we have any hopes of getting out the group John Stones should be nowhere near the team, fucking useless excuse for a footballer2
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I would go:
Butland
Walker Cahill Smalling Rose
Dier Shelvey
Sterling Alli Rashford
Kane1 -
I think I know where you are coming from regarding Stones.Pelling1993 said:If we have any hopes of getting out the group John Stones should be nowhere near the team, fucking useless excuse for a footballer
Continental defenders like to play the ball out rather than just hoof it.
Stones tries to do the same,the problem is that he ain't good enough and he looks a liability at times.
But at least he tries to do the right thing.0 -
I'd rather my CBs could defend first and foremost, he's such a liabilityblackpool72 said:
I think I know where you are coming from regarding Stones.Pelling1993 said:If we have any hopes of getting out the group John Stones should be nowhere near the team, fucking useless excuse for a footballer
Continental defenders like to play the ball out rather than just hoof it.
Stones tries to do the same,the problem is that he ain't good enough and he looks a liability at times.
But at least he tries to do the right thing.0 -
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Walker ----- Dier -- Alli--------Rose
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Butland
Walker, Cahill, Stones, Rose
Henderson, Dier, Lallana
Alli, Rashford
Kane
Tactic: HAVE A F*CKIN’ GO FOR ONCE0 -
Basically this.Red_James said:I would go with:
Butland
Walker - Stones - Cahill - Rose
Dier - Lallana (plays here for liverpool on occasions and adds creativity)
Sterling - Alli - Rashford
Kane
Not overly happy at CB and do like Maguire & Keane but not too sure if i would start them, against inferior teams i would swap Dier (as he is more defensive) for Drinkwater or Henderson. Sterling is doing well so far for City so gets in ahead of Vardy on the wing.
Best of an average bunch.0 -
At least Shelvey can pass the ball forward. If he has a good season he really could get in the team.Pelling1993 said:I would go:
Butland
Walker Cahill Smalling Rose
Dier Shelvey
Sterling Alli Rashford
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For me Wilshire is the best central midfielder England have.3
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Maybe 8 years agoCovered_End_Lad said:For me Wilshire is the best central midfielder England have.
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Butland
Jones Stones Cahill
Walker Rose
Wilshere
Lallana Ali
Kane Rashford
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In a 3-5-2
Butland
Stones
Cahill
Maguire
Walker
Lallana
Dier
Alli
Rose
Rashford
Kane
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We have Kane who is a very good player and Rashford who has potential but is definitely overhyped... Lallana on his day can be decent and Alli too ... The rest are very very poor players.0
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Hate the fact so many people rate Dier, i do think he is half decent but if we have nothing better that is not good for England. Even for Spurs i think its the same, i'd put Wanyama ahead of him, great utility player as can play CDM/CM/CB, eg. squad player.
@JohnBoyUK any thoughts?0 -
Hmm, I have been having this argument with my two best pals (who are also Spurs) for the last 12 months since Wanyama joined.johnnybev1987 said:Hate the fact so many people rate Dier, i do think he is half decent but if we have nothing better that is not good for England. Even for Spurs i think its the same, i'd put Wanyama ahead of him, great utility player as can play CDM/CM/CB, eg. squad player.
@JohnBoyUK any thoughts?
I think Spurs play more progressive football when Dier is central, alongside Dembele. The toss up is that Spurs look way more solid when Wanyama sits in front of the back four.
You only have to look at the way Spurs finished last season when Wanyama was injured. We'd been getting wins away from home but low scorelines but as soon as Dier went back in the middle we started knocking goals in for fun.
However, now Spurs are playing with 3 CBs, is there really a need for a two holding midfielders? I think not.
Will be interesting to see what happens when Dembele and Wanyama are both fit again. Can only see Dier playing in the back three should one of Vertonghen, Alderweirald or Sanchez is out.1 -
totally forgot about Lallana, not sure how well he would get on in the 2 of a 4231 though0
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Thanks for your response on this, i have also had a debate with my Spurs 'fwiend'. I agree with that completely, personally if Dembele & Wanyama are fit they suit perfect. For England i feel even though it is our weakest area it doesn't really fill me with much hope, a bit like when Neville used to fill in everywhere i personally think he will do a job but would hope there is someone better out there.JohnBoyUK said:
Hmm, I have been having this argument with my two best pals (who are also Spurs) for the last 12 months since Wanyama joined.johnnybev1987 said:Hate the fact so many people rate Dier, i do think he is half decent but if we have nothing better that is not good for England. Even for Spurs i think its the same, i'd put Wanyama ahead of him, great utility player as can play CDM/CM/CB, eg. squad player.
@JohnBoyUK any thoughts?
I think Spurs play more progressive football when Dier is central, alongside Dembele. The toss up is that Spurs look way more solid when Wanyama sits in front of the back four.
You only have to look at the way Spurs finished last season when Wanyama was injured. We'd been getting wins away from home but low scorelines but as soon as Dier went back in the middle we started knocking goals in for fun.
However, now Spurs are playing with 3 CBs, is there really a need for a two holding midfielders? I think not.
Will be interesting to see what happens when Dembele and Wanyama are both fit again. Can only see Dier playing in the back three should one of Vertonghen, Alderweirald or Sanchez is out.0 -
Pretty much all the permutations have been covered. Only to say Hart shouldn't be Number 1 and Henderson is NOT an international midfielder, he makes Ray Wilkins look like Inesta!
Don't hold out any hope of doing anything at all and think with this lot if we get out of the group stage then that's about it.1 -
None, they’re all pants.0
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Re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic comes to mind.2
