EU has been anti British and our heritage, since day one. In line with the intention of this thread, it’s just a joke
What about the countries who joined after us? Were they already "anti British and our heritage", and just joined to be part of the GB-hate-in? Did they gaze from afar in envy, thinking "if only we could be "anti British and [their] heritage" with others, rather than being out on a limb with our "anti British and [their] heritage" philosophy? It feels wrong being "anti British and [their] heritage" in relative isolation, when there, just over the border, so close you can almost smell it, there is another nation that is "anti British and [their] heritage", who can happily join hands with fellow EU members and celebrate their "anti British and [their] heritage" - ness, together, as one.
Or did they become "anti British and our heritage" once they joined, just for shits and giggles? "We have always quite liked the British, with their milky tea, bad weather and quirky sense of humour, but what the hell, lets go "anti British and [their]heritage" it'll be a lark wont it.."
What about those countries that didn't exist when we joined the EU? How do they stand on the whole "anti British and our heritage" issue? Were they formed solely so they could partake in the entire "anti British and our heritage" bun-fight, was it drafted into their constitution from day one, or did they have to sign a caveat on joining that said "despite your previous good relationship with Britain, we now expect you to be "anti British and [their] heritage""?
Cancel Brexit because we can't control a border ? Move the border into the sea and treat the island as an island ? Stay in the customs union in case someone opens fire at a customs post?
It's unfortunate as you said, that the GFA is breaking down for other reasons, but do the people of NI or ROI really want a return to violence over this? There are probably factions that do, but these guys will resort to violence with any excuse. Should we appease them ?
This issue has to be dealt with in as practical way as possible (probably no plan will be deemed ideal for all parties involved) - but we can't make it a deal breaker, we have to get on with it.
Cancel Brexit because we can't control a border ? Move the border into the sea and treat the island as an island ? Stay in the customs union in case someone opens fire at a customs post?
It's unfortunate as you said, that the GFA is breaking down for other reasons, but do the people of NI or ROI really want a return to violence over this? There are probably factions that do, but these guys will resort to violence with any excuse. Should we appease them ?
This issue has to be dealt with in as practical way as possible (probably no plan will be deemed ideal for all parties involved) - but we can't make it a deal breaker, we have to get on with it.
You ask 'so what shall we do?'. All the people who voted brexit will be able to answer that one. The Conservative government and their brexit team will also be able to answer that one won't they? After all we have to get on with it. Any ideas yourself?
Cancel Brexit because we can't control a border ? Move the border into the sea and treat the island as an island ? Stay in the customs union in case someone opens fire at a customs post?
It's unfortunate as you said, that the GFA is breaking down for other reasons, but do the people of NI or ROI really want a return to violence over this? There are probably factions that do, but these guys will resort to violence with any excuse. Should we appease them ?
This issue has to be dealt with in as practical way as possible (probably no plan will be deemed ideal for all parties involved) - but we can't make it a deal breaker, we have to get on with it.
You ask 'so what shall we do?'. All the people who voted brexit will be able to answer that one. The Conservative government and their brexit team will also be able to answer that one won't they? After all we have to get on with it. Any ideas yourself?
you're wrong. I voted leave and I don't know the answer. There will be a solution, it won't derail our leaving the European Union.
Cancel Brexit because we can't control a border ? Move the border into the sea and treat the island as an island ? Stay in the customs union in case someone opens fire at a customs post?
It's unfortunate as you said, that the GFA is breaking down for other reasons, but do the people of NI or ROI really want a return to violence over this? There are probably factions that do, but these guys will resort to violence with any excuse. Should we appease them ?
This issue has to be dealt with in as practical way as possible (probably no plan will be deemed ideal for all parties involved) - but we can't make it a deal breaker, we have to get on with it.
You ask 'so what shall we do?'. All the people who voted brexit will be able to answer that one. The Conservative government and their brexit team will also be able to answer that one won't they? After all we have to get on with it. Any ideas yourself?
you're wrong. I voted leave and I don't know the answer. There will be a solution, it won't derail our leaving the European Union.
There is clearly a solution available. for example a wall, barbed wire, mines on either side of the border, watchtowers and machine gun nests. Lengthy checks at all allowed crossing points, and compulsory purchase of land or buildings that straddle the border. There you go, an idea. Which is probably one idea more than the brexit voters and Conservative government has. It will be easy to call out my idea as a) ridiculous and b) too expensive, but my challenge to anybody is that I have started with one idea, does anybody have any other/better ones?
Cancel Brexit because we can't control a border ? Move the border into the sea and treat the island as an island ? Stay in the customs union in case someone opens fire at a customs post?
It's unfortunate as you said, that the GFA is breaking down for other reasons, but do the people of NI or ROI really want a return to violence over this? There are probably factions that do, but these guys will resort to violence with any excuse. Should we appease them ?
This issue has to be dealt with in as practical way as possible (probably no plan will be deemed ideal for all parties involved) - but we can't make it a deal breaker, we have to get on with it.
You ask 'so what shall we do?'. All the people who voted brexit will be able to answer that one. The Conservative government and their brexit team will also be able to answer that one won't they? After all we have to get on with it. Any ideas yourself?
you're wrong. I voted leave and I don't know the answer. There will be a solution, it won't derail our leaving the European Union.
There is clearly a solution available. for example a wall, barbed wire, mines on either side of the border, watchtowers and machine gun nests. Lengthy checks at all allowed crossing points, and compulsory purchase of land or buildings that straddle the border. There you go, an idea. Which is probably one idea more than the brexit voters and Conservative government has. It will be easy to call out my idea as a) ridiculous and b) too expensive, but my challenge to anybody is that I have started with one idea, does anybody have any other/better ones?
Cancel Brexit because we can't control a border ? Move the border into the sea and treat the island as an island ? Stay in the customs union in case someone opens fire at a customs post?
It's unfortunate as you said, that the GFA is breaking down for other reasons, but do the people of NI or ROI really want a return to violence over this? There are probably factions that do, but these guys will resort to violence with any excuse. Should we appease them ?
This issue has to be dealt with in as practical way as possible (probably no plan will be deemed ideal for all parties involved) - but we can't make it a deal breaker, we have to get on with it.
You ask 'so what shall we do?'. All the people who voted brexit will be able to answer that one. The Conservative government and their brexit team will also be able to answer that one won't they? After all we have to get on with it. Any ideas yourself?
you're wrong. I voted leave and I don't know the answer. There will be a solution, it won't derail our leaving the European Union.
There is clearly a solution available. for example a wall, barbed wire, mines on either side of the border, watchtowers and machine gun nests. Lengthy checks at all allowed crossing points, and compulsory purchase of land or buildings that straddle the border. There you go, an idea. Which is probably one idea more than the brexit voters and Conservative government has. It will be easy to call out my idea as a) ridiculous and b) too expensive, but my challenge to anybody is that I have started with one idea, does anybody have any other/better ones?
yep, Ireland should leave as well..
That is a bit contradictory. If the UK is leaving the EU because it doesn't want to do what the EU says, then the result of the referendum means that Ireland has to do what the UK says...leave the EU too? I don't think that idea will have legs, my idea of an expensive hard border is more likely, but if my idea prevails then I would expect a lot of terrorist incidents to be the consequence of that. That would be appalling, I am no nationalist, but for the UK nationalists to tell the Irish nationalists whats what will only end in tears, and probably bloodshed. It would be much easier of course if the people who voted to leave the EU happily accepted that there will be no control of borders, and there would be free movement of people and goods. In return the UK population could be allowed blue passports or something, to help their self esteem.
Cancel Brexit because we can't control a border ? Move the border into the sea and treat the island as an island ? Stay in the customs union in case someone opens fire at a customs post?
It's unfortunate as you said, that the GFA is breaking down for other reasons, but do the people of NI or ROI really want a return to violence over this? There are probably factions that do, but these guys will resort to violence with any excuse. Should we appease them ?
This issue has to be dealt with in as practical way as possible (probably no plan will be deemed ideal for all parties involved) - but we can't make it a deal breaker, we have to get on with it.
You ask 'so what shall we do?'. All the people who voted brexit will be able to answer that one. The Conservative government and their brexit team will also be able to answer that one won't they? After all we have to get on with it. Any ideas yourself?
you're wrong. I voted leave and I don't know the answer. There will be a solution, it won't derail our leaving the European Union.
And that, my friends, is why there should never have been a referendum in the first place...
What the brexiters don't seem to like is having to implement the result because they don't seem to know how to do it, and they want others to magic up practical solutions on their behalf, solutions that are contradictory and virtually impossible.
What the brexiters don't seem to like is having to implement the result because they don't seem to know how to do it, and they want others to magic up practical solutions on their behalf, solutions that are contradictory and virtually impossible.
Maybe they don't know how because it's not their job to know how? Why do people on here expect a random bloke to have a solution to every single issue they've come up with because of the result? Claim that people didn't fully know what they were voting for, fine, no arguments against that. If the remain campaign would have done a better job in highlighting all of these issues, maybe the result would have gone the other way.
In an EU context REMAIN means status quo ie steady progress to 'ever closer union' as outlined by Juncker last week.
LEAVE, as evidenced by the shambles of negotiations, can happen in a number of ways.
Many on the LEAVE side are as fed up with the ineptness of May, Davis et al as any REMAINER.
My personal view is that, as closet remainers, they actively want to screw it up so that we later return to the EU and abolish the pound as a giant leap to further integration.
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Or did they become "anti British and our heritage" once they joined, just for shits and giggles? "We have always quite liked the British, with their milky tea, bad weather and quirky sense of humour, but what the hell, lets go "anti British and [their]heritage" it'll be a lark wont it.."
What about those countries that didn't exist when we joined the EU? How do they stand on the whole "anti British and our heritage" issue? Were they formed solely so they could partake in the entire "anti British and our heritage" bun-fight, was it drafted into their constitution from day one, or did they have to sign a caveat on joining that said "despite your previous good relationship with Britain, we now expect you to be "anti British and [their] heritage""?
I think we should be told...
So what shall we do ?
Cancel Brexit because we can't control a border ?
Move the border into the sea and treat the island as an island ?
Stay in the customs union in case someone opens fire at a customs post?
It's unfortunate as you said, that the GFA is breaking down for other reasons, but do the people of NI or ROI really want a return to violence over this? There are probably factions that do, but these guys will resort to violence with any excuse. Should we appease them ?
This issue has to be dealt with in as practical way as possible (probably no plan will be deemed ideal for all parties involved) - but we can't make it a deal breaker, we have to get on with it.
All the people who voted brexit will be able to answer that one.
The Conservative government and their brexit team will also be able to answer that one won't they?
After all we have to get on with it.
Any ideas yourself?
There you go, an idea. Which is probably one idea more than the brexit voters and Conservative government has.
It will be easy to call out my idea as a) ridiculous and b) too expensive, but my challenge to anybody is that I have started with one idea, does anybody have any other/better ones?
If the UK is leaving the EU because it doesn't want to do what the EU says, then the result of the referendum means that Ireland has to do what the UK says...leave the EU too?
I don't think that idea will have legs, my idea of an expensive hard border is more likely, but if my idea prevails then I would expect a lot of terrorist incidents to be the consequence of that.
That would be appalling, I am no nationalist, but for the UK nationalists to tell the Irish nationalists whats what will only end in tears, and probably bloodshed.
It would be much easier of course if the people who voted to leave the EU happily accepted that there will be no control of borders, and there would be free movement of people and goods.
In return the UK population could be allowed blue passports or something, to help their self esteem.
What the brexiters don't seem to like is having to implement the result because they don't seem to know how to do it, and they want others to magic up practical solutions on their behalf, solutions that are contradictory and virtually impossible.
LEAVE, as evidenced by the shambles of negotiations, can happen in a number of ways.
Many on the LEAVE side are as fed up with the ineptness of May, Davis et al as any REMAINER.
My personal view is that, as closet remainers, they actively want to screw it up so that we later return to the EU and abolish the pound as a giant leap to further integration.