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England v West Indies 2017

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So, first day night test in England. We won toss and bat.
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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,840
    Stoneman bowled for 8 by Roach
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,835
    Why should a white or pink ball behave differently to red ball? Why can't they make it exactly the same but just a different colour?
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,345
    MrOneLung said:

    Why should a white or pink ball behave differently to red ball? Why can't they make it exactly the same but just a different colour?

    IF anyone could answer that, they'd do Simon Hughes and all the other analysts out of a job .. and for that matter, why do some red balls swing more than others ? ..
    tiny differences in seam stitches, slight/tiny biases in the manufacture of the ball, overhead weather conditions, and of course the relative skills of the bowler etc. etc. etc .. all theories as to 'what affects the trajectory of cricket balls' ((:>)
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,840
    I think the dyes are different. Also the white ball has an extra coating to stop it getting dirty
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,345
    whatever colour the ball, England's new batsmen are struggling
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,835
    Thats Surrey/Essex for you...
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    I think swing is a lot to do with air turbulence so the material may might make a difference. I'm sure I read somewhere that the colour of arrow fletches in archery makes a difference, so maybe it makes a difference in cricket?
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,840
    MrOneLung said:

    Thats Surrey/Essex for you...

    Hopefully the other Essex and Surrey batsmen will also fail tonight and tomorrow tonight :smile:
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,907
    edited August 2017
    The reports from the county games were that the pink ball does a lot for 10-15 overs then does very little.

    To get through that period 2 down is not too bad. Have ro cash in before the next new ball. We should be aiming to have them 4 down in that period.

    I'm worried that we've gone in with 2 swing bowlers in Jimmy and TRJ. Possibly should have picked someone with more pace and bounce. Since we have both of them we might as well use them while the ball swings. We must open with both of them and not broad.
  • Apparently the red ball has a coating that the pink ball can't have as it will dull the colour of the pink down making it hard to spot. Without this coating the pink ball gets soft a lot quicker than the red ball
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  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,835
    Are we scoring an unusually high percentage of boundaries in this innings?
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,840

    The reorts from the county games were that the pink ball does a lot for 10-15 overs then does very little.

    To get through that period 2 down is not too bad. Have ro cash in before the next new ball. We should be aiming to have them 4 down in that period.

    I'm worried that we've gone in with 2 swing bowlers in Jimmy and TRJ. Possibly should have picked someone with more pace and bounce. Since we have both of them we might as well use them while the ball swings. We must open with both of them and not broad.

    This middle session will be important too, as scoring now should be easier than when the lights go on after tea
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,313
    This is too easy for JE Root
  • CHG
    CHG Posts: 4,529
    Ton up for Root, I back Anderson to get a knock against this mob.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,668
    CHG said:

    Ton up for Root, I back Anderson to get a knock against this mob.

    We will declare before Anderson gets a bat
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,345
    IF they were dead, Michael Holding and I V Richards would be turning in their graves ((:>)
  • Goonerhater
    Goonerhater Posts: 12,677
    Ambrose and Richards are in the stand--- could probably have a go even today. With back up from Mr Holding in the commentary box who took over 200 test wickets.
  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    Cook has his ton now.
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,907
    And Sobers. The greatest all rounder the game has ever seen.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,840

    And Sobers. The greatest all rounder the game has ever seen.

    The only Sober(s) person in the ground!
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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,622
    I predict the game will be all over inside 3 days. we will get 550+ & the W Indies will be out for under 250 in both their innings.
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051
    Holding, Garner, Roberts, Marshall, Ambrose, Walsh... You could stick three or four of them in any all time XI and not have to fight hard to justify it
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,313
    Getting very, very dull now. Root should try to hit a few sixes
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,668
    McBobbin said:

    Holding, Garner, Roberts, Marshall, Ambrose, Walsh... You could stick three or four of them in any all time XI and not have to fight hard to justify it

    Those days hurt.
    It's nice to be on top now though
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,313
    Switched over to watch Adam Lyth. Much more fun
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    edited August 2017
    Root gone 136 clean bowled middle & leg.

    287-3
  • suzisausage
    suzisausage Posts: 11,502
    287-3 root 136
  • Root's gone - only 136 - need a new captain!
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885

    Root's gone - only 136 - need a new captain!

    It's a good job he and some if the old guard can get a few runs because the new lads.................well less said best mended.
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,051

    McBobbin said:

    Holding, Garner, Roberts, Marshall, Ambrose, Walsh... You could stick three or four of them in any all time XI and not have to fight hard to justify it

    Those days hurt.
    It's nice to be on top now though
    Agreed, though I'd rather have a strong WI test team in the mix.