My understanding is that Chelsea get a loan fee, plus we pay the wages, but also agree to play him in 75% of first team matches when he is available or we have to pay an extra fine/fee to Chelsea if he doesn't get that 75%. Chelsea have a thriving cottage industry going on by hoovering up so many players, basically trying to control the market which Abramovic learned when he controlled Sibneft. Robinson has signed him as a goalkeeper by the way.
You're not pleased with this signing then ?
I am very pleased with the signing. He is a good player, as yet untested by a tough long season in men's football, but arguably along with Kashi and Konsa the best player we have. I simply described what I understand to be Chelsea's terms. (The goalkeeper bit was supposed to be a merry quip).
We're leaving you out today Jay. Yeah I know you'd run rings around them, but they've got quite a tall bloke up front and we need to play as many centre-backs as we can. See you next week son. Yeah Naby, you're centre mid
If you watched the under 19 semi final against Portugal two weeks ago, he was regularly targeted with crosses to the back post.
He looked suspect, only terrible heading from Portugal stop them from scoring. Teams like AFC Wimbledon who play a direct style will target Jay Da Silva. It's down to the centre backs to protect him in these situations.
Going forward he's arguably a premier league level full back. However, the only reason he is playing in league 1 is that there are concerns with height and his ability to defend crosses.
My understanding is that Chelsea get a loan fee, plus we pay the wages, but also agree to play him in 75% of first team matches when he is available or we have to pay an extra fine/fee to Chelsea if he doesn't get that 75%. Chelsea have a thriving cottage industry going on by hoovering up so many players, basically trying to control the market which Abramovic learned when he controlled Sibneft. Robinson has signed him as a goalkeeper by the way.
You're not pleased with this signing then ?
I am very pleased with the signing. He is a good player, as yet untested by a tough long season in men's football, but arguably along with Kashi and Konsa the best player we have. I simply described what I understand to be Chelsea's terms. (The goalkeeper bit was supposed to be a merry quip).
Going forward he's arguably a premier league level full back. However, the only reason he is playing in league 1 is that there are concerns with height and his ability to defend crosses.
Yeah, he's got all the ability in the world but when I first saw him I thought he was one of the ballboys! He looks about 14!
We're leaving you out today Jay. Yeah I know you'd run rings around them, but they've got quite a tall bloke up front and we need to play as many centre-backs as we can. See you next week son. Yeah Naby, you're centre mid
If you watched the under 19 semi final against Portugal two weeks ago, he was regularly targeted with crosses to the back post.
He looked suspect, only terrible heading from Portugal stop them from scoring. Teams like AFC Wimbledon who play a direct style will target Jay Da Silva. It's down to the centre backs to protect him in these situations.
Going forward he's arguably a premier league level full back. However, the only reason he is playing in league 1 is that there are concerns with height and his ability to defend crosses.
Surprised that chelsea did not want him to move up a league, but pleased as I thought he improved when he had a run in the team at the end of last season. If continues to improve will be a great asset to the team.
We're leaving you out today Jay. Yeah I know you'd run rings around them, but they've got quite a tall bloke up front and we need to play as many centre-backs as we can. See you next week son. Yeah Naby, you're centre mid
If you watched the under 19 semi final against Portugal two weeks ago, he was regularly targeted with crosses to the back post.
He looked suspect, only terrible heading from Portugal stop them from scoring. Teams like AFC Wimbledon who play a direct style will target Jay Da Silva. It's down to the centre backs to protect him in these situations.
Going forward he's arguably a premier league level full back. However, the only reason he is playing in league 1 is that there are concerns with height and his ability to defend crosses.
Seriously though, if Robinson plays an error-prone centre-back at left-back instead of the U19WC-winning captain just because a team is a bit lumpy, I want him sacked on the spot
I am not suggesting they leave Da Silva out or put a centre half at left back. What I would think about, if I was an opposition Coach, is to play a bigger player against Da Silva and play a lot of diagonal balls to that man for him to knock on. I am pleased we have got Da Silva, he is a good footballer. But there is more than one way to play.
Don't think the rules have changed so if he can it'll only be possible in January (unless they change their mind before the August window closes I guess).
And another thing. I don't think it's a bad thing at all that a club like Charlton starts to build a good relationship with a club like Chelsea where they loan out so many good players every season. Truth is clubs outside the PL need to use the loan system and being a good place for Chelsea to send its young talent could over a period work out very well.
Undoubtedly a quality player but I worry that his size/upper body strength can match the hurly burly of L1, where protection from the ref can often be a let down. We shall see.
Good signing. Improves the squad and proved himself at this level last season. Happy with this. If Solly can recapture his form then a back 4 of Solly, Konsa, Pearce, DeSilva should be decent at this level, just not a lot of depth behind it.
The only problem I can see with that back line is height. Playing against a big direct side could be difficult.
League 1 is full of six foot plus players with the turning circle of the QE 2.
We have appeared physically inferior to other teams for most of the last decade.
Undoubtedly a quality player but I worry that his size/upper body strength can match the hurly burly of L1, where protection from the ref can often be a let down. We shall see.
In the couple of games last season when I saw Dasilva play, I was impressed with his speed of thought and anticipation - which more than compensated for his lack of height.
His quick feet, acceleration and tenacious attitude enabled him to retrieve situations where it looked as if he had been beaten. I like that never-say-die approach. It'll take him far in the game.
In any case, he's surprisingly good in the air for a little fella and wins headers against bigger blokes that you wouldn't think he has any right to win. On top of that, he's a good footballer with a decent touch and eye for a pass - and with a turn of of pace and positional sense that gets him into good attacking positions.
Robinson's preferred 4-2-3-1 needs a player like DaSilva to quickly turn defence into attack.
Quite interesting that a lot of the issues are surrounding his height but he's only just shorter (5.7ft) than Chris Solly (5.8ft) and Chris Perry (5.9ft).
Hello......I'm here!! I've still got my old 1960's Litesome Jock strap, half a bottle of white horse liniment (just a whiff of that will get me 100% up to speed), a tin of old dried up dubbin and my precious Bukta boots and string tie up's......gonna need new shin pads though. Come and get me Katrien.......was often a Blackheath MOTM crowd pleaser.
Quite interesting that a lot of the issues are surrounding his height but he's only just shorter (5.7ft) than Chris Solly (5.8ft) and Chris Perry (5.9ft).
He's also the same height as Jordi Alba.
Chris Perry.....a great player for us that we prematurely and stupidly let go.
Good signing. After looking a bit out of his depth first couple of times (quite understandable) looked good when he got regular playing time. Expect him to really develop this season. Still makes me frustrated that we are so happy about getting a Chelsea loanee for a season. Football really is unique at the moment.
Seriously though, if Robinson plays an error-prone centre-back at left-back instead of the U19WC-winning captain just because a team is a bit lumpy, I want him sacked on the spot
I am not suggesting they leave Da Silva out or put a centre half at left back. What I would think about, if I was an opposition Coach, is to play a bigger player against Da Silva and play a lot of diagonal balls to that man for him to knock on. I am pleased we have got Da Silva, he is a good footballer. But there is more than one way to play.
I think dickplumb hits the nail on the head here, a massive issue for us last season under KR was that we had no plan B. If the tippy-tappy 4-2-3-1 isnt working we need to be able to comfortably transition into another style mid-game.
Quite interesting that a lot of the issues are surrounding his height but he's only just shorter (5.7ft) than Chris Solly (5.8ft) and Chris Perry (5.9ft).
He's also the same height as Jordi Alba.
I had in my head he was about 5 ft 4, can't remember where I saw that. We won League 1 with Solly and Wiggins who are both 5 ft 8.
On set pieces we need enough players that are at least decent in the air elsewhere in the team and in open play if we can stop too many crosses getting over in the first place his height won't be an issue.
I'd much rather see a full back that adds a threat going forward than a slower but taller, solid player that is more like a centre back out wide.
So Phillips who splits opinion (which suggests he's at least not consistent enough yet) gets injured and we play one of the teenagers that has no first team experience at any level? Phillips needs serious competition at the very least, whether he's first choice or not. I'd hope we can bring in someone better and more proven.
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I simply described what I understand to be Chelsea's terms.
(The goalkeeper bit was supposed to be a merry quip).
He looked suspect, only terrible heading from Portugal stop them from scoring. Teams like AFC Wimbledon who play a direct style will target Jay Da Silva. It's down to the centre backs to protect him in these situations.
Going forward he's arguably a premier league level full back. However, the only reason he is playing in league 1 is that there are concerns with height and his ability to defend crosses.
My gut feeling is that he is here for the season.
I am pleased we have got Da Silva, he is a good footballer. But there is more than one way to play.
We shall see.
We have appeared physically inferior to other teams for most of the last decade.
His quick feet, acceleration and tenacious attitude enabled him to retrieve situations where it looked as if he had been beaten.
I like that never-say-die approach. It'll take him far in the game.
In any case, he's surprisingly good in the air for a little fella and wins headers against bigger blokes that you wouldn't think he has any right to win. On top of that, he's a good footballer with a decent touch and eye for a pass - and with a turn of of pace and positional sense that gets him into good attacking positions.
Robinson's preferred 4-2-3-1 needs a player like DaSilva to quickly turn defence into attack.
He's also the same height as Jordi Alba.
I've still got my old 1960's Litesome Jock strap, half a bottle of white horse liniment (just a whiff of that will get me 100% up to speed), a tin of old dried up dubbin and my precious Bukta boots and string tie up's......gonna need new shin pads though.
Come and get me Katrien.......was often a Blackheath MOTM crowd pleaser.
On set pieces we need enough players that are at least decent in the air elsewhere in the team and in open play if we can stop too many crosses getting over in the first place his height won't be an issue.
I'd much rather see a full back that adds a threat going forward than a slower but taller, solid player that is more like a centre back out wide.
With them, Holmes, Dasilva and Solly there are a few shorter players in the potential first team squad.