Attention: Please take a moment to consider our terms and conditions before posting.

Nicky Ajose joins Bury - season long loan

124»

Comments

  • are you deliberately missing my point ? .. I'm sure that Ajose in fact WAS a Slade signing just as you seem to be sure that he was signed at the behest of the ownership ..
    Ajose was signed after Slade was appointed manager .. can you 'prove' that he was signed over the head of Slade ? .. I doubt that you can .. as I can't 'prove'otherwise

    all this 'understanding' that Meire was 'responsible' for Ajose's signing is pure conjecture, guess work, no-one knows what and how it all happened other than Slade and the owners ..

    Meire is a total waste of space, but even so, she can't be blamed for every single mistake and mishap at CAFC
    No I cannot. I just remember hearing at the time what SHG posted.

    And I'd also agree that Miere sometimes gets overly blamed for things. I think Ajose is a player who made sense on paper, especially for a 4-4-2 manager. I just believe that our squad and our ambitions have outgrown him this summer.
  • How did Ajose play under Nugent?

    Don't know if this is rhetorical but scored against Port Vale:
    http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/37958878

    He scored the fifth with a screamer against Bristol Rovers.

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/37982572

    And if memory serves was awful against Sheff United (though he was not alone).

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/38035539

  • SDAddick said:

    No I cannot. I just remember hearing at the time what SHG posted.

    And I'd also agree that Miere sometimes gets overly blamed for things. I think Ajose is a player who made sense on paper, especially for a 4-4-2 manager. I just believe that our squad and our ambitions have outgrown him this summer.
    I agree that meire should not be blamed for every signing, Ajose was seen as a decent addition last summer, regardless of whether he was thoroughly scouted or bought simply because he scored a lot of goals the year before.

    I dont think our squad or ambitions has outgrown him, it's simply because KR does not seem to rate him and more importantly, he is not a striker who fits the preferred system.
  • Heard Slade call him a lazy bugger during a match at The Valley.
  • Crusty54 said:

    Heard Slade call him a lazy bugger during a match at The Valley.

    And Slade tried to sign Watt at Cardiff so he knows about lazy buggers
  • edited July 2017
    Was it Ajose or Novak who confirmed that his signing was lined up before Slade was recruited and then rubber-stamped? I think Novak but can't find the article.

    Slade certainly had a veto because I know for a fact he used it, but Meire was lining up players before he arrived, no question.
  • Was it Ajose or Novak who confirmed that his signing was lined up before Slade was recruited and then rubber-stamped? I think Novak but can't find the article.

    Slade certainly had a veto because I know for a fact he used it, but Meire was lining up players before he arrived, no question.

    It was Novak I believe. He said he wanted to meet with the manager before he signed.
  • SDAddick said:

    Don't know if this is rhetorical but scored against Port Vale:
    http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/37958878

    He scored the fifth with a screamer against Bristol Rovers.

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/37982572

    And if memory serves was awful against Sheff United (though he was not alone).

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/38035539

    Everyone was shite against Sheffield United apart from the last five mins when we should have nicked the win
  • edited July 2017
    I would like to see a busier hard working team next season. I think it is the way to go in this league if you can inject some quality too. I want to see goal threats through the team, and if you are not a goal threat you better be good.
  • Was it Ajose or Novak who confirmed that his signing was lined up before Slade was recruited and then rubber-stamped? I think Novak but can't find the article.

    Slade certainly had a veto because I know for a fact he used it, but Meire was lining up players before he arrived, no question.

    Nothing wrong with that IF we have a club philosophy of how we want to play and a trusted scouting team. Unfortunately we have neither and she picked him out form a list of top scorers.
  • Sponsored links:


  • people mean to say Roland and co bought a player in that wasn't very good i'm shocked - 1st time for everything i suppose.
  • people mean to say Roland and co bought a player in that wasn't very good i'm shocked - 1st time for everything i suppose.

    I don't think that's what people mean to say necessarily. In fact, I think there are some reason why signing Ajose made sense, and the regime got a lot of plaudits at the time of the signing. I think the bigger problem was neither Slade nor Robinson seem to fancy him, and I think this whole thing is part of a larger failure which is that we don't have a Director of Football or technical director or whatever who looks at signings and says "this is the type of system we want to play, these are the players that will be around them, let's either sign players that fit the system or tweak the system and sign players accordingly," and then managers are hired based on their ability to fit in to and play that system.
  • SDAddick said:

    I don't think that's what people mean to say necessarily. In fact, I think there are some reason why signing Ajose made sense, and the regime got a lot of plaudits at the time of the signing. I think the bigger problem was neither Slade nor Robinson seem to fancy him, and I think this whole thing is part of a larger failure which is that we don't have a Director of Football or technical director or whatever who looks at signings and says "this is the type of system we want to play, these are the players that will be around them, let's either sign players that fit the system or tweak the system and sign players accordingly," and then managers are hired based on their ability to fit in to and play that system.
    It's also not ideal when they hire a manager who plays his system, and then sack him after a few matches, hiring a new manager with a new system.

    Not saying we should have kept Slade, just saying we go through so many managers how can players get used to a system knowing that it will be changing within a few months!
  • It's also not ideal when they hire a manager who plays his system, and then sack him after a few matches, hiring a new manager with a new system.

    Not saying we should have kept Slade, just saying we go through so many managers how can players get used to a system knowing that it will be changing within a few months!
    Is it really that hard though?
    These are professional footballers, surely they are bright enough to be able to adapt to different systems.
  • Is it really that hard though?
    These are professional footballers, surely they are bright enough to be able to adapt to different systems.
    in theory, I agree. But we see players even at the top playing well in certain formations/systems and not so well in others. Also dependant on the manager. I get the feeling Ajose and Slade didn't get on that well, and Robinson didn't seem to rate him either.

    We talk about why players will want to join us knowing we're in a mess. I think even if the players sign (which they will as we are still a big club for the league), it does not mean that they will not be aware they could be playing under a different manager in a few months time. Possibly the reason the likes of Reeves and Martin have not agreed a deal yet.
  • It's also not ideal when they hire a manager who plays his system, and then sack him after a few matches, hiring a new manager with a new system.

    Not saying we should have kept Slade, just saying we go through so many managers how can players get used to a system knowing that it will be changing within a few months!
    Completely agree. In my mind it's why we would have a Director of Football or whatever because our SMT is devoid of footballing experience, and thus should not be relied upon to execute this task.

    By the way, I'd imagine there are a fair few boards who wouldn't necessarily be capable of directing the footballing side of things. But what other boards do is they hire people to fill the gaps they don't understand, then they listen to those people. What's so frustrating is that is a transferable skill amongst anyone who has had even a remotely successful career in business, or just has good life skills.
  • edited July 2017
    SDAddick said:

    Completely agree. In my mind it's why we would have a Director of Football or whatever because our SMT is devoid of footballing experience, and thus should not be relied upon to execute this task.

    By the way, I'd imagine there are a fair few boards who wouldn't necessarily be capable of directing the footballing side of things. But what other boards do is they hire people to fill the gaps they don't understand, then they listen to those people. What's so frustrating is that is a transferable skill amongst anyone who has had even a remotely successful career in business, or just has good life skills.
    Wow, you've never mentioned it before. :smile:
  • Still slagging him off on here but factually he is the best striker we had. No other current strikers has scored more at this level than him
  • Still slagging him off on here but factually he is the best striker we had. No other current strikers has scored more at this level than him

    There's more to it than stats. Robinson wants to play a lone striker in a team playing with a lot of energy, pressing etc. Ajose doesn't fit that in any way, at best he'd be a sub unless Robinson switched to a formation with 2 strikers. I doubt Ajose wants to be in that position when other clubs in our league would take him and play him regularly.
  • Sponsored links:


  • Scored 2 goals today at Walsall today, in the Checkstrade trophy.
Sign In or Register to comment.

Roland Out Forever!